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Do you think ZOS should eliminate animation cancelling?
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itRohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »EnemyOfDaState wrote: »Can someone tell me the last big MMO that didn't have animation canceling?
Swtor
The combat in that game is so damn boring. I liked the stories, but once I finished the class story lines, I quit.
The combat is fine in that game in my opinion . There F2P system is garbage . Ever play a Force healer ? Pretty fun . Marauders are fun too .
That combat is outdated and boring, get over yourself and your misconception of what animation canceling is. Every game with fluid combat features some form of animation canceling, even newer games like Overwatch or Paragon incorporate some form of animation canceling into their combat system to help the combat feel less robotic. Games like Super Smash Bros use some forms of animation canceling as well, people enjoy the responsive and fast combat.
ESO is plauged by such a misinformed and casual player-base, people who have literally zero understanding of the game are free to come onto the forums and shoot their opinions around like they've been playing the game since launch.
You say that; but the fact you liken it to buttom mashers and FPS games is kind of their point.
I actually don't care any more. I think there are much more important things to worry about in the game. Animation cancelling wouldn't even be an issue if some of the animations were not unnecessarily annoying.
And [snip] me for perpetuating this thread more!
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itIt's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.Edited by Jimbullbee85 on January 24, 2017 2:26PMJimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage3 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭In other games I play this is called clipping. It is very normal to see this in games, not just MMO games. Clipping allows players to get extra damage from an ability or weapon attack by clipping into the next ability or weapon move. Programming to stop this type of action will take plenty of time.
I know in some other games there were abilities you could cancel the animation and still get the damage off by jumping, this is normally called jump cancelling.
There are other terminology for cancelling animation to get the most damage out of one's character and players who support these methods tend to argue that if others cannot do this they are unskilled.
I have heard both sides and IMO, if the company that made the game can remove animation cancellation they should if the cost vs. benefit is equal or results in more revenue. If the change will take too much resources to complete than I say leave it as is and learn to play the animation cancellation game.0 -
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✭✭No let it stayRohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »EnemyOfDaState wrote: »Can someone tell me the last big MMO that didn't have animation canceling?
Swtor
The combat in that game is so damn boring. I liked the stories, but once I finished the class story lines, I quit.
The combat is fine in that game in my opinion . There F2P system is garbage . Ever play a Force healer ? Pretty fun . Marauders are fun too .
That combat is outdated and boring, get over yourself and your misconception of what animation canceling is. Every game with fluid combat features some form of animation canceling, even newer games like Overwatch or Paragon incorporate some form of animation canceling into their combat system to help the combat feel less robotic. Games like Super Smash Bros use some forms of animation canceling as well, people enjoy the responsive and fast combat.
ESO is plauged by such a misinformed and casual player-base, people who have literally zero understanding of the game are free to come onto the forums and shoot their opinions around like they've been playing the game since launch.
You say that; but the fact you liken it to buttom mashers and FPS games is kind of their point.
I actually don't care any more. I think there are much more important things to worry about in the game. Animation cancelling wouldn't even be an issue if some of the animations were not unnecessarily annoying.
And [snip] me for perpetuating this thread more!
ESO by design is a button masher, animation canceling is irrelevant to the idea of "button mashing". Paragon is not a "button mashing" game it has ability cool-downs as a MOBA typically does, there are functional animation canceling mechanics in the game. Animation canceling doesn't turn a game into a button masher, a FPS shooter isn't a button masher. The animation canceling mechanics in most FPS games revolve around the melee ability.
ESO is likened to games with fun combat systems, literally the one positive this game had going for it from the start.
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✭Yes get rid of itRohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »EnemyOfDaState wrote: »Can someone tell me the last big MMO that didn't have animation canceling?
Swtor
The combat in that game is so damn boring. I liked the stories, but once I finished the class story lines, I quit.
The combat is fine in that game in my opinion . There F2P system is garbage . Ever play a Force healer ? Pretty fun . Marauders are fun too .
^^ SWTOR's combat is incredibly good, yeah its not as good at what it cold be, but its clean and fun to do/ Sorc's have some epic large area attacks but are not the best for PVPing. Maraduers had an update with some knew abilities and animation skills added which look very nice. Yeah if you are going to play SWTOR you need to be a subscriber F2P is terrible, and considering the amount of stuff you can get from the game, it is worth subscribing. Been a subscriber for 2 years with 8 characters
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✭✭No let it stayJimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Honest question, why wouldn't they still be good? If you can do perfect rotations with AC, you can do them without. Everyones dps would drop without AC because less damage is possible when you don't AC. Good players are good players. AC isn't a crutch or an exploit.PC/EU DC2 -
SameMeteor26✭✭✭It's sad because all of you are talking about it like it's some exploit or mod. Animation canceling is simply skill. It is not something they can get rid of. Animation canceling is a skill anyone can have.2 -
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✭✭✭No let it stayJimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Thats like asking if basketball players would be just as good if the NBA removed jumping from the game. Obviously not, cus you're removing a layer of skill that allows those who can utilize it to shine. It's artificially dumbing the game down to limit skillful play. But I assure you that the people against animation canceling will still get destroyed all the same. Then they'll be back crying about the next thing, ad infinitum.
Thats why you don't balance the game around the complaints of the lowest common denominator. They will always complain and try to drag everyone else and the game down to their level, ruining it in the process. But they will never accept that the problem may not be with mechanics of the game but rather their own ability to learn and develop.
The same exact reason I'm passionately opposed to socialism.3 -
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✭✭No let it stayJimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Thats like asking if basketball players would be just as good if the NBA removed jumping from the game. Obviously not, cus you're removing a layer of skill that allows those who can utilize it to shine. It's artificially dumbing the game down to limit skillful play. But I assure you that the people against animation canceling will still get destroyed all the same. Then they'll be back crying about the next thing, ad infinitum.
Thats why you don't balance the game around the complaints of the lowest common denominator. They will always complain and try to drag everyone else and the game down to their level, ruining it in the process. But they will never accept that the problem may not be with mechanics of the game but rather their own ability to learn and develop.
The same exact reason I'm passionately opposed to socialism.
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✭Yes get rid of itJimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Thats like asking if basketball players would be just as good if the NBA removed jumping from the game. Obviously not, cus you're removing a layer of skill that allows those who can utilize it to shine. It's artificially dumbing the game down to limit skillful play. But I assure you that the people against animation canceling will still get destroyed all the same. Then they'll be back crying about the next thing, ad infinitum.
Thats why you don't balance the game around the complaints of the lowest common denominator. They will always complain and try to drag everyone else and the game down to their level, ruining it in the process. But they will never accept that the problem may not be with mechanics of the game but rather their own ability to learn and develop.
The same exact reason I'm passionately opposed to socialism.
I think with the state PVP is in now, we all have the right to complain."I appear at my lord's behest, or perhaps I was always here, and you merely lacked the ability to see me."
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✭Yes get rid of itanimation cancelling is legit because ZOS doesnt know how to fix it without *** up everything.. go play in azura star and see it yourself, if you can animation cancel you DESTROY new players, you can be experienced and kill new players indeed, but you wont be able to destroy them unless you can AC.
also for pve.. like seriously how your reaction will be if NPCs hit you with skills and hits that you dont see because NPCs animation cancel huh? no need to be such hypocrites and defend nothing.. imagine doing veteran Hel Ra where the NPCs does a heavy attack with that Uppercut - even if you block it.. only the tank ( 1 out of 12 ) will survive it.
a player using animation cancelling in PvP versus new players is even harder to survive against(for newbies) if compared to a double mundus stone exploiter.
1) animation canceller do 20k dps instead 8-12k of 1 regular skill
2) double mundus exploiter doing 5% extra dps
if you are skilled or noob, you will always have struggle beating AC dude.
animation cancelling is the real power creep/gap between new players and vets.. put CPs in your closet - again - azura's star and PvP in general are the perfect example- where your opponents are human not artificial stupidity- i mean intellegence..
Edited by Waseem on January 24, 2017 3:02PM1 -
Alagras✭✭✭No let it stayJimbullbee85 wrote: »A lot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it
Many people seem to think this, and what you guys miss is that cancelling mostly feels great. A bit less since Thieves Guild, but still. You feel in much more direct take with your fighting.
And if it helps performing better, it's not unfair, as it takes practice (much more than skill actually)
Hating it is legit, but to all those who do without having really tried (not aimed at you Jimbullbee idk), please give it a real try first, and a new chance in your mind. The responsiveness feels great.
It can become excessive, and actual combat must stay represented on screen of course, but "getting rid of it" = killing many people's fun and playing pleasure. Not just their "upper hand".
Edited by Alagras on January 24, 2017 3:05PM3 -
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✭No let it stayJimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Typically players become good through a mix of natural talent and skill developed via practice. That's true with or without AC.
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itJimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Thats like asking if basketball players would be just as good if the NBA removed jumping from the game. Obviously not, cus you're removing a layer of skill that allows those who can utilize it to shine. It's artificially dumbing the game down to limit skillful play. But I assure you that the people against animation canceling will still get destroyed all the same. Then they'll be back crying about the next thing, ad infinitum.
Thats why you don't balance the game around the complaints of the lowest common denominator. They will always complain and try to drag everyone else and the game down to their level, ruining it in the process. But they will never accept that the problem may not be with mechanics of the game but rather their own ability to learn and develop.
The same exact reason I'm passionately opposed to socialism.
You make a fair point but I disagree. Its more like asking basketball players if they'll still be as good if they couldn't fly. It shouldn't happen. Obviously in this example it can't happen LOL. The only reason it's still there IMO is because ZOS darent fix it out of fear of breaking everything else. It's obviously an exploit. I'm not saying there's no skill behind it and I don't blame players for taking advantage of it. I just think it's uneccesarry is all. Theres more clear and obvious ways to demonstrate skill. What's the point of beating someone if they can't see how you did it?Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage2 -
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✭Getting rid of animation cancelling would be the end of small scale pvp. I really don't see any cons too it because skills still have a GCD so it's not like you can be hit with 5 surprise attacks in two seconds. Whats so bad about adding a light attack and a bash with your ability to get the most of your GCD. Not to mention shields on last 6 seconds in not trying to waste 2 of those seconds casting the ability2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No let it stayWhen ZOS embraced animation cancelling, it should have also been documented. It is crazy that such an important mechanic is not taught to new players. It is not at all intuitive.
Like Valve provides for new Dota 2 players, there should be a tutorial that teaches animation cancelling.
Its not possible to do a tutorial to teach it.
It is entirely based on ping. The timing for someone with a steady 75ms ping, a steady 300ms ping and an unsteady 60-200ms ping are all different.
At best they can make Lyris or Prophet say, "You may cancel animations of certain instant attacks with other attacks. Timing is an entirely random dependent upon your system, hardware, and physical location."
No newbie will be able to figure that out until they check it out on youtube and then tinker around until they get it right.
@Riejael
Animation canceling can be demonstrated and explained. It's very simplw to do so. Teaching and demonstrating are very independent of ping.
The most basic and common form of animation canceling I ended up figuring out accidently right after the game launched, weaving basic attacks in front of skills. It can even be done with moderate ping.
I do agree a video would make it easier to understand and searching for information is a big dividing line between higher end of dps and the lower end. One cannot learn skill in a vacuum.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itthankyourat wrote: »Getting rid of animation cancelling would be the end of small scale pvp. I really don't see any cons too it because skills still have a GCD so it's not like you can be hit with 5 surprise attacks in two seconds. Whats so bad about adding a light attack and a bash with your ability to get the most of your GCD. Not to mention shields on last 6 seconds in not trying to waste 2 of those seconds casting the ability
This is very true. I would find a lot of things l like blazing shield worthless with the delay it wants to animate while my guy poops for a second.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No let it stayEnemyOfDaState wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »EnemyOfDaState wrote: »Can someone tell me the last big MMO that didn't have animation canceling?
Swtor
I skipped that one. I know DCUO and GW2 had it. Seems like a staple in action MMO'S.
Yeah, action MMOs pretty much need it. Hotkey MMOs like SWTOR/WOW/LOTRO/Whatever where you are waiting for several cool downs to expire before your next button press don't work the same.
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L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of iti am yet to find a proper explanation of why it still in game beside ZOS not knowing how to fix it0
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✭No let it stay.Jimbullbee85 wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Thats like asking if basketball players would be just as good if the NBA removed jumping from the game. Obviously not, cus you're removing a layer of skill that allows those who can utilize it to shine. It's artificially dumbing the game down to limit skillful play. But I assure you that the people against animation canceling will still get destroyed all the same. Then they'll be back crying about the next thing, ad infinitum.
Thats why you don't balance the game around the complaints of the lowest common denominator. They will always complain and try to drag everyone else and the game down to their level, ruining it in the process. But they will never accept that the problem may not be with mechanics of the game but rather their own ability to learn and develop.
The same exact reason I'm passionately opposed to socialism.
You make a fair point but I disagree. Its more like asking basketball players if they'll still be as good if they couldn't fly. It shouldn't happen. Obviously in this example it can't happen LOL. The only reason it's still there IMO is because ZOS darent fix it out of fear of breaking everything else. It's obviously an exploit. I'm not saying there's no skill behind it and I don't blame players for taking advantage of it. I just think it's uneccesarry is all. Theres more clear and obvious ways to demonstrate skill. What's the point of beating someone if they can't see how you did it?
For reference is it an exploit that players can sprint and use a skill to stop versus having to manually stop before using a skill? That's also animation canceling.
ZOS can "fix" animation canceling by reworking the game's action prioritization recognition to force animations to fully playout before other actions are sequenced. However this would require reworking combat and action interplay in the whole of the game, as reaction based blocking and dodging also would be altered. As such it is not a worry of breaking something, but rather no interest in spending massive amounts of development time to rework an otherwise functioning game.
Honestly I don't believe people advocating for AC's removal actually understand the extent and scope of what they are asking for.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No let it stayi am yet to find a proper explanation of why it still in game beside ZOS not knowing how to fix it
Basically they can't remove it with out breaking key mechanics of the game. Removing the ability to AC would make block and dodge roll in this game nearly pointless as you would have to remove priority from them, causing you to have to wait before using it if you're in the middle of something else. The ability to react to an enemy attacking you would be impeded.
This is the official stance on it and whether any of us like it or not, it's here to stay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZtwhYkKSs
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Emencie✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itEnemyOfDaState wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »EnemyOfDaState wrote: »Can someone tell me the last big MMO that didn't have animation canceling?
Swtor
I skipped that one. I know DCUO and GW2 had it. Seems like a staple in action MMO'S.
To be fair they almost immediately fixed it in guild wars 2 because it was terrible.
It continues to completely drive the meta in DCUO to this day. As in, if your class build does not have skills that can be jump canceled, then they are trash. 90% of abilities that cannot be cancelled are considered trash and the cookie cutter is out of control at end game.
With ESO at least we don't run into that problem since just about everything can be ACed.
Even Wildstar patched out animation canceling quickly when it cropped up, because it can get out of control and ruin a game.
Right now in ESO end content is balanced around AC a function that many people do not know about, something that drives the meta and requires outside game knowledge to perform. It is a terrible system.4 -
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✭Other (Please explain)Jimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
When i was a child, i was teached to either learn to do stuff properly and if i cant, live with it.
Meaning that one can only be good when he or she, is willing to learn all aspects of the thing they want to be good at.
Today it just feels, that some folks are just too lazy to try and learn all aspects and too selfish and arrogant that they will just ask the thing to be easier because they cant or are not willing to learn it.
There is this mechanic called animation canceling in the game, learn to use it or live with it that you cant. Oy will not help you at all to get rid of animation canceling because good player is always a good player and those who dont learn, will not be as good.
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itJimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Typically players become good through a mix of natural talent and skill developed via practice. That's true with or without AC.
Try to actually counter arguments instead of thinking they are invalid based on alleged personal interest.
The point I was trying to make is that a sniper can't be an awesome sharp shooter with a shot gun. Animation cancelling allows players to do more damage over time and in my oponion some players rely on it. Without it they'll be disadvantaged. Hence the question, which is not a statement by the way or meant to be insulting to anyone.Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage0 -
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✭Other (Please explain)I feel all animations should go off and that if you cancel it, a shortened animation should occur with only a % of the damage done, based on the time it took to cast. This would give rise to a more skilled meta, For things like dots and Debuffs it wouldn't matter as much but for direct damage abilities you'd have to be careful how quick you go.
I also feel if they do keep it, ZOS needs to give better tutorials, indicators, and counters. Currently animation canceling is a requirement for almost every high level dungeon and in pvp but it's mentioned no where. Some players stumble across it and think it's an exploit do they don't use it. Then for those of us that don't use it well there is no alternative play style.
So keep it or remove it, there is still a lot more for ZOS to do.2 -
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✭✭No let it stayJimbullbee85 wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »It's a touchy issue for alot of players isn't it? Alot of players love animation canceling because it gives them the upper hand in combat against players who don't know how to do it or dont do it out of principle. The tough question for animation cancelers is... Would you still be as good of a player if you couldn't do it? If the general honest answer to that is no, then inevitably there will be alot of passionate arguments against removing it.
Typically players become good through a mix of natural talent and skill developed via practice. That's true with or without AC.
Try to actually counter arguments instead of thinking they are invalid based on alleged personal interest.
The point I was trying to make is that a sniper can't be an awesome sharp shooter with a shot gun. Animation cancelling allows players to do more damage over time and in my oponion some players rely on it. Without it they'll be disadvantaged. Hence the question, which is not a statement by the way or meant to be insulting to anyone.
It is literally just adding a few extra steps to a good rotation. Take it away and its still a good rotation, you just have to think about less things. So really all taking it away would do is make it boring.
Besides, you can certainly be an expert marksman with a shotgun. Sure the range isnt great, but its nowhere near impossible.Edited by Shunravi on January 24, 2017 4:40PMThis one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!2 -
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✭✭No let it stayI'm sure someone else has mentioned this already, but I'm not trawling through 20 pages to check.
The fact that animation even CAN be canceled is inherent to the game's system and how the graphics and actual actions work together. I'm no developer, but I suspect this would take a complete game overhaul to change, and I'm sure most here would agree that zenimax do not have the capacity to do that.2013
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✭✭✭✭✭No let it stayi am yet to find a proper explanation of why it still in game beside ZOS not knowing how to fix it
@L2Pissue
Zos determined it was good for the game, which it is.
Those that say it's in the game because Zos cannot figure out how to fix it or because Zos is to lazy to fix it are making it up. Those comments are coming from salty players.5 -
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✭Yes get rid of itI'm sure someone else has mentioned this already, but I'm not trawling through 20 pages to check.
The fact that animation even CAN be canceled is inherent to the game's system and how the graphics and actual actions work together. I'm no developer, but I suspect this would take a complete game overhaul to change, and I'm sure most here would agree that zenimax do not have the capacity to do that.
Your right, it would take a whole game overhaul, pretty much taking pve and pvp offline to be fixed. The fact that animation canceling is in the game is probably because it was overlooked/missed and because many players now use it ESO don't have the capacity to take the game offline as you said, so yeah even though we complain about it im pretty sure its here to stay.
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