There's exactly one reason I started playing this game in the first place: the Elder Scrolls universe and lore (I consider the two to be inextricable).

maltinkilic wrote: »

But there are some errors in the lore in this game. In a book i foundin mornhold tells. Lord Nerevar was from Redoran. No he was Indoril. Maybe the author of the book was wrong(in game author) but then how can i trust which books are fact which ones are fiction in this game.

You've fallen into a trap that a lot of self-professed TES lore junkies fall into. One of the best things about TES lore is that virtually all of it comes from an in-universe perspective. As a result, just like in the real world, a lot of it is contradictory. Anyone who has studied history beyond the high school level will understand that in the real world you always have to make judgement calls to decide how much weight you should give to any given source, based on a large number of factors. It's the same with sources in any TES game. There's no such thing as deciding which of the books are fact and which are fiction (aside from the ones that are obviously intended to be fiction), there's only deciding which ones you feel are more reliable.

This is largely because the sources for the lore aren't omniscient - the authors only know what they know, and they might misunderstand things, or simply not have the whole picture. It's also partly because some of them have specific agendas that they're trying to promote, and they're portraying things in a certain light (which may or may not involve flat-out lies) in order to do so. And then it's also partly because of things like dragon breaks, where reality actually changes.

You need to approach TES lore the same way you would approach studying any period of history. Determine whether the source is a primary or secondary source. Determine whether the author of the source has any known biases that would affect the way the material has been presented in the source. Determine whether the author of the source was likely to have a really solid understanding of what he wrote about - was he an outsider looking in? Was he directly involved? Is he writing based on reliable sources? Look for other sources that discuss the same topic (scrutinizing them in the same manner) and determine which sources agree on which points, and which sources disagree on which points. Look for physical evidence that either supports or contradicts the source (in the real world this would be physical archaeological evidence, but in TES games it's more what you can actually witness within one of the games in the series).

This is a large part of what makes TES lore so rich, and it's disappointing that so many people ignore this aspect of it in favour of blindly pointing to different in-game books as being The Source Of Truth. Hell, a good number of the in-game books directly and intentionally contradict each other. Inconsistencies and uncertainties are in the lore on purpose. Simply laying out all of the facts in black and white to be spoonfed to us would be boring. I know lots of other games do that, but it's boring.

Lore is great, and I love it.

But it should always come second to game play. If a game is terrible to play, then I wont care about the lore enough to play it.

I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but I could really care less about lore. I don't enjoy reading as it is, so reading about a fake universe in a game I don't get to play a lot as it is just isn't what I want to do. In the spare time I have, I WANA PLAY.

maltinkilic wrote: »

But there are some errors in the lore in this game. In a book i foundin mornhold tells. Lord Nerevar was from Redoran. No he was Indoril. Maybe the author of the book was wrong(in game author) but then how can i trust which books are fact which ones are fiction in this game.

That's why I have a ranking of "trustworthy information source" for TES, and anything that comes from an NPC (a book, an opinion told as fact, a tale) is at the bottom of it. The only stuff lower than that on my ranking is the stuff made by former writers after they stopped working on the series, which are on the same level as fanfics and fan theories, and are not by any means part of the canon unless the current lore master confirms it.

The only things I come close to fully trusting are the things that were done or witnessed by the playable character. And even then, depending on the situation, I still might have my doubts.

I like to see what developers put into their games. Good storytelling and worldbuilding helps set the tone for me.

Ewww lore, enjoy ur nerd ***.

Echoing several above: I wish there was a third option on this poll that could fall between the first and the third.

I really enjoy the depth of thought and effort that goes into Elder Scrolls world, lore, and history. I'm never going to remember all of it, and indeed I find myself running to the wiki on occasion when I feel like I've lost the thread of the story. But the fact that there is a thread, more than a thread, a whole fabric of a world, that's what keeps me playing ESO rather than go back to some other MMOs.

Most of the time Lorebooks/bookshelves are zoomed through, but occasionally I'll find a book that I have to stop and read through because it's so amusing or interesting. I can't bring myself to delete all the messages from my crafting hirelings because I love their little escapades. And who doesn't love Shegorath's crazy coded books, or the eternally incomplete Lusty Argonian Maid?

If not for lore, I wouldn't be playing this game.

This is my first ES game (although I've caught myself up by reading the wiki). I enjoy it. I just wish it was a bit darker and grittier (I'm a huge fan of the Witcher and Dark Souls series). Maybe the single player games do a better job of weaving a dark atmosphere?

I think Ive been Fantasy fan so long I dont care, its basically the same in the end, but its the Old School Fantasy style what drawns me in ESO. I couldnt be happier that Conan Exiles is coming too.

maltinkilic wrote: »

Next, this is Lord Nerevar i am talking about. The greatest hero of Chimer (currently known as dunmer). He was not just a member of indoril. He was the leader of house indoril. He was the husband of (false) god almalexia. Confusing or misinforming about any npc is ok.

For a house as haughty as Redoran, maybe it could be reasoned that they want to mooch in on his legacy. Do you have a link to the text? The Imperial Library (www.imperial-library.info) should have a copy, if you can recall the name.

Also, what constitutes the difference between false and real "gods" in TES?
As I understand it, the Tribunal (Vivec at least) are gods in some sense of the word.

Well the source of Nerevar being indoril is TES III: Morrowind, since the main protogonist in the story is his reincarnate you learn about hus past life in detail. And what difference between false and true godhood is in morrowind game also. False tribunal just used the power of some artifacts to become god and destroyed in the end while lorkhan is cut into thousands piece even before the first era but his heart still beats still(during eso).

But seriosly godhood csn be interpreted differently so what i say false can be true for you. Its ok.