ESO could be great if Zenimax would start delivering content they announced 2.5 years ago.

Mashille wrote: »

People who say the game is in a terrible state and it sucks are just PvPers who are bored of being screwed over time and time again, which is justified as lag is horrendous and balance isn't great.

Not always true, i am a PVE player, and i think that the game has gone to new levels of suck.

The game is in a completely horked state because of:

1. PVP is complete and utter crap. It was launched as broken crap, and every update since then just tries to cover the fact that it is broken.
2. PVE is often made the victim for the PVP nerfs. Whether it is U13 or any of the updates prior, the one constant rule is that everything gets weaker, it never fixes what was wrong in PVP, and almost always will break your build.
3. the game is starting to get that WoW second job effect with the increase of 'daily' tasks. While i think this is great for some, the new master writs are just going to break everything. Daily 'kill' mob quests are not as bad, but the inclusion of daily type quests to consume gold tempers are going to gauge the prices.
4. the management has basically has their own agenda, which is: Get new players, milk them while you can then nerf them or just ignore the real issues until they quit.
5. in addition, the level of professionalism from the company is mediocre at best: it can take a day to get the patch notes posted, and in every other mmo i played, it was available within an hour of the servers going offline for the patch. They also seem to be hand written the day of the patch because it is quite clear that it is not a prepared post.
6. and the best part, they have no idea on what to do on some of the biggest parts of the game, especially end game: Proof: Veteran ranks, cadwell's silver/gold, introducing CP, power creep, lack of content, the U13 in entirety.

MMOs are no where near as good as they use to be or could have been. Too many companies are trying to copy WoW, but without the multi-million dollar budget that goes with 15mil customers, they all have fallen short.

So as a PVE player, i think ESO sucks, but still slightly better then ffxiv and WoW. Hell, i even debated going back to ffxi, but those graphics were just too bad...

TBH If I hadnt played this game in 2 years, I would not bother coming back into it. Game is laggy, cheaty and grindy.

Depends on your wants/needs, if its worth it, but a lot has changed since launch.

Pve in no particular order:

The game offers thousands of hours of content, from fishing to veteran trials. The restrictions have for the most part been lifted and content has been reworked a few times over.

The lowercase b delve maps are all but gone, with quest and delve rewards actually being useful.

You can play with any alliance member of any level and all xontent magically scales to everyone's level.

Undaunted added monster helms and shoulders that you get from killing bosses in dungeons and doing daily quests for treasure chest keys.

Wrothgar is a large and fun area added which has a interesting and fun story.

The thieves guild added the justice system, which incorporates theft and consequence to pve and offers sneaky characters a fun little mainquest and daily quests with achievements.

The dark brotherhood added assassin's missions and the blade of woe, which is a fun way to 1 shot kill npc.

Shadows of the hist added two end game dungeons, which give new "skins" to wear from completing objectives.. all dungeon now have 2 versions as well.

There are now 4 12 man trials, each with a normal and veteran option.. one of which gives you another skin like the soth dungeons.

Crafting has been overhauled and you get a bag with unlimited slots for all materials if you subscribe to eso+ and there are 9 traits now. You also have daily crafting quests that give you special rewards based on your level.

Craglorn has been doubled in size and reworked for single and group play.

Fishing has been incorporated into crafting and objectives

Pvp:

Imperial city was added, which is a large pve/pvp mixture giving a new currency called telvar, which can buy uou gear and crafting materials. There is an underground section which is quite large and a circular part with capturable districts above. Roving monsters are below with a central location to kill molag bals minions for a chance at another skin. Above ground has flags to capture, mobs and bosses to kill for gear, keys to special treasure chests and telvar. This is the most mixture of pve and pvp in the game.

Overland pvp has capturable towns which give a rez point and special gear vendors that can be bought with Alliance points.

You can also rez out outkeeps and forward camps have been brought back into the game.

Now my personal opinion:

Pvp is a mess if you enjoy anything outside of large scale zerginess. If you are a member of a big pvp group that can run the map, maybe you will have fun, but if you want to run 4-5 man geoups, you will have to wear some very suspect, overpowered gear to be able to be efficent. You will face 40-50 players running you over at every turn all using high perfoming combinations of gear sets and skills. The days of being able to fi d fights in delves and towns and opeb world are done, its zerg the emporer keeps, zerg the scrolls and repeat. That veing said, a lot of people do it every day.

Try it out, there is a lot of changes and a lot of fun to be had

Seraphayel wrote: »

I think players that are playing since launch or for one or two years tend to be rather negative because ZOS doesn't add content to the game that's worth being labeled as content.

I've been playing on and at times off since the launch. The game has gotten a lot better over time. There is more freedom, the horrible vet level grind is gone etc. A lot of content has become too easy, that's one my personal main complaints.

However, because I have never had that much playtime, I still haven't ran out of things to do. I also kind of think that things don't always have to be "new" to be enjoyable. One can find different ways to do stuff, have different goals. One of the things I've personally enjoyed has been teaching new players.

The lack of fresh content is beginning to show though, overall, in people's attitudes and opinions.

Don't listen to the doomsayers the game is good fun, while there are still some bugs and the lag at times, it has come a long way from launch and this year we can expect more content,, just enjoy it at your own pace.

ESO still good as always

Remag_Div wrote: »

Rev Rielle wrote: »

Yes they are, and with the changes soon coming to Cyrodiil, it should be a much more enjoyable, and busy, place to hunt them.

What's changing?

@Remag_Div. Proc sets will no long able to critically hit (PvP and PvE), so survivability will increase somewhat, and the Alliance Point rewards for capturing objectives, completing missions and the like are getting a significant boost. Those two changes will bring more players back to Cyrodiil.

I think it's a fun game to level up your classes in. It's got interesting stories, although it's a little less simple now with One Tamriel because you don't feel the same level of immersion with your faction.

But I think the end game is extremely dissappointing right now. Once you get there it feels extremely lack luster to me:

1. The quests involved don't provide rewards really worth having and, while they're somewhat interesting, you run out of them quickly.
2. Dungeons are either too easy (normal mode) and provide equipment you don't need, or their hard ... but there's an extremely toxic environment surrounding them so you'll be kicked if your too low level often without a word. But those are the only ones you need to get equipment so basically you'll grind out the vet level equivilents in order to get in them, then you grind out the dungeons just for the final item that drops from the boss. Once you've got that you don't need that dungeon anymore. Strange game design there I think.
3. Because of the One Tamriel 'everything is your level' the end game doesn't feel special. It's just ... more of the same? You can go to the starting area of another zone and it's just like being in an end game zone. It takes some of the fun out of things.
4. The best equipment from solo challenges is super RNG madness. You literally can get any weapon dropping - there's no linking or restriction based on your build for example - so you'll have to do these over and over again. Each time it takes an hour or more. It's fun learning these but boring to grind them. You can read about people with over a hundred runs who haven't got the one thing they need yet, very dissappointing.
5. I don't know much about the guild game because guilds always feel very non-personal to me in this game. I've played hundreds of hours and made very few actual friends ... and usually I'm someone who's good at that. Perhaps it's the odd hours or something. Anyway, it's a different environment so end-game guild stuff to me has been dissappointing.
6. New Content - I love that lots of new content comes out for this game, it was great while I was leveling. But as pointed out above it has basically zero impact on end game. It won't make your characters much stronger, it won't give you amazing extra things to do every month. When the last content patch came out for new dungeons I didn't even notice - the game is set up so you are best randomizing and doing the dailies. So it was business as usual until you get a small random surprise at doing something else. If you're coming back now it'll just feel like there's a boggling huge array of dungeons and they mostly start to feel the same. Because everyones done them 1000 times you'll rush through them without a concern of the story, if you don't you'll likely be kicked. That might be a little cynical but I don't think it's inaccurate.

I've basically quite the game since Halloween event. I was really enjoying it before then but around that time I hit end game with the last toon ... so only end game left. And, well, it was intimidating, toxic and lacking in variety. Kind of sucks because I spent an easy $150/month on crowns.

Great during leveling. Poor afterwards.

It's a fun game and there's plenty to do. I had a year break and have been back for a year and it's definitely worth playing. 99% of pve content is face roll easy tho, doshia is a joke, mudcrabs aren't terminators anymore etc. But then you have maelstrom arena and a couple dungeons which are challenging.

I am in a similar situation to the OP and was contemplating making this exact thread... but then I had a vision of how the replies would go. Sometimes visions come true.

I think that if your a diehard mmo player that is will be boring pretty fast

Im not that kind of player i take my time and somedays all i do is 1 dungeon and talk with my guild mates so how i see the game is that it is alot of fun and there are alot of things to do