Animations are there for a reason... so I think there's not much to say.

CaptainVenom wrote: »

Animations are there for a reason... so I think there's not much to say.

You want to cast your sweeps or rapid strikes and not be able to block an incoming stun, because you cant stop? Because that would be the consequence of this change.

The thieves guild patch pts version, where you couldn't block cast felt like a totally different and bad combat.

Animation canceling is one reason why this games combat is so good!

CaptainVenom wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

Animations are there for a reason... so I think there's not much to say.

You want to cast your sweeps or rapid strikes and not be able to block an incoming stun, because you cant stop? Because that would be the consequence of this change.

The thieves guild patch pts version, where you couldn't block cast felt like a totally different and bad combat.

Animation canceling is one reason why this games combat is so good!

Timing is key. Animations shouldn't be cancelable. This is actually killing pvp for casual players.

I'm pretty sure, casual players will struggle more with such a change than more progression oriented players.

The animation canceling effect is as deeply coded in the game as is the stun animation when getting stunned. I highly doubt ZoS can remove it without a ridiculous amount of coding that will indirectly affect other mechanics (which isn't worth it really).

yodased wrote: »

There is a very big diferrence between weaving and being able to hit 4 or 5 skills in the time it would take 2 to fully animate.

This is not street fighter, clipping combos and all the othe b.s. that comes with it should stay in that genre.

To do this, you'll need more than animation cancelling and also more than macros. There's so much misinformaion in such threads....
There are also skills/mechanics which allow you to do 4...5 hits in 2 seconds without any Cheats or whatever. People also forget, that their is a general cooldown for skills, weapon attacks (light/heavy) and ults you cannot bypass with ac/macros...

yodased wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

There is a very big diferrence between weaving and being able to hit 4 or 5 skills in the time it would take 2 to fully animate.

This is not street fighter, clipping combos and all the othe b.s. that comes with it should stay in that genre.

To do this, you'll need more than animation cancelling and also more than macros. There's so much misinformaion in such threads....
There are also skills/mechanics which allow you to do 4...5 hits in 2 seconds without any Cheats or whatever. People also forget, that their is a general cooldown for skills, weapon attacks (light/heavy) and ults you cannot bypass with ac/macros...

No you dont. Open with wrecking blow, light attack, wrecking blow, bash, light attack in the same time it would take to fully cast 2 wrecking blows.

Thats 5 hits in the span of 2.

Ambush incap bash swap l.a., fully cancelled poison injection.

Not sure why people try to deny this so hard

Uh....you do 2 wrecking blows in the time to do 2 wreckiong blows. That's for sure a bannable behaviour. Do you even know how the cooldowns (edit: and priorities) in this game work?

Stop being casual, stop being lazy, get better

oh look one of those posts again. yeah lets slow down combat where light attacks and heavy attacks are no longer viable. potatoes are so silly.

laksikus wrote: »

[thats 2 wrecking Blows in the time of 2 wrecking Blows. Bash and light attack are instant.
And thats still 2 skills in the time for 2 skills and Not 4 skills like you stated above

Hits not skills, you can get 5 hits in the span of 2 skills. It is a garbage system

yodased wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

[thats 2 wrecking Blows in the time of 2 wrecking Blows. Bash and light attack are instant.
And thats still 2 skills in the time for 2 skills and Not 4 skills like you stated above

Hits not skills, you can get 5 hits in the span of 2 skills. It is a garbage system

You said skills. Hits is even easier.
Snipe, heavy, ambush, ulti, light, bash, Viper, widow, poison

Thats 9 Hits

Or DW heavy, skill light ulti, Viper poison, widow

From a mag sorc perspective, I cant really see how anything other than LA weaving effectively adds more dps. The skills operate on 1 sec global cool dows, so it seems even if you block cancel an ability the next ability is still going to fire at the same time as if you hadn't block cancelled. Sure, the skill will hit slightly sooner, but I think the animation is included in the 1 sec cool down, so whether the skill fires at 0.3 or 0.5 sec doesn't make a difference to when the next skill will activate. Can someone confirm or discomfort this?

Edit: I didn't select "Yes get rid of it" just looked at the poll. Weird.

I am fine with them removing it if they rebalance the game to adjust for the massive DPS loss.

I'd say get rid of them, and then fix the problems caused by long animations and the imbalance in skills.

Animation canceling is the cheap way out of the problem.

Grabmoore wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

Animations are there for a reason... so I think there's not much to say.

You want to cast your sweeps or rapid strikes and not be able to block an incoming stun, because you cant stop? Because that would be the consequence of this change.

The thieves guild patch pts version, where you couldn't block cast felt like a totally different and bad combat.

Animation canceling is one reason why this games combat is so good!

The thing about the 2 specific skills you mentioned, they're channeled. So "animation canceling" them would actually impact the total damage output of them. The animation canceling only specifically refers to instant cast and non-channeled abilities. But either way I agree with you, animation canceling is not something that can be removed, as it would change the entire combat play style of this game. They would have to change MANY other things if they were to remove it.