Housing - Please give the indoor lighting a serious boost!

manavortex · January 2017

EDIT for clarity:
While resolving the problem via my GPU's configuration interface does work to a degree, it won't make the problem go away. There are a ton of people out there of whom it's too much to ask to configure their graphics card, much less their monitor lighting, so please don't suggest that as solution

So, I bought the Ebonheart Mansion on PTS, fully decorated, and upon walking in, I face this:

I felt half-tempted to put up a few Ancestor Shrines, if I could have found them in the Crown Store, just to match the overall feel of the place.

In comparison, this is Hrogar's Hold, sharing the same floor plan. There are even _less_ light sources, yet the place is far better lit:

This is the Velothi Reverie, the house that my character and her husband will move in for real:

There are 9 light sources (excluding the fire) on that part of the image that you can see. I have spent 10% of my furniture limit (Yes, ESO+) on light sources, and I still find the place too dark.

This is Neron Arona's House, sharing the same floor plan minus the extra rooms:

There are three light sources on that part of the image that you can see, one of those being a randomly placed lorebook.

Please, can you give the in-house lighting a bit more Magnus? It's probably Meridia, sucking half of it off on the way through the Coloured Rooms, but unlike her, I'm a paying customer a living person, I need the light far more!

manavortex · January 2017

Postscript: All of these pictures were taken during bright daylight!

Edit, Clarification: I don't want the lights themselves to be brighter, I would love it if the light would spread further, being more effective! I want lit-up rooms, not lense flares!

Sigtric · January 2017

They should have low and high light settings. I personally really like way the dark elf houses are dim like shown, but with a second intensity level it could be brighter for you

manavortex · January 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

They should have low and high light settings. I personally really like way the dark elf houses are dim like shown, but with a second intensity level it could be brighter for you

I would agree with you, if I had just put up candles. However, I put up _ten_ light sources - a fire, four Daedric Sconces, a Mehrunes Dagon Brazier, candles and several glowing shards. Even a Wilderking Firepot (that's painfully bright by itself) doesn't manage to do much for the interior... Nothing against gloomy, but if I put up spotlights, the gloom needs to go

MLGProPlayer · January 2017

If you do give lighting a boost, please make sure it doesn't seap through walls. Right now, a strong light on a bottom floor will light up the floor above it through the floor. The same applies for adjacent rooms. This is with the current lighting strength, so stronger lights might be an even bigger problem (unless you address the issue and make light unable to penetrate solid walls).

willlienellson · January 2017

Please DO NOT give lighting a boost unless it's a 3rd level that is achieved through toggle.

Extinguished/Medium/High would be fine, but I don't want a bunch of glaring bright lights. I actually really like 90% of the lighting applications I've seen and used so far.

Also, it's worth noting that I don't think the furnished homes are "Fully furnished". Pretty sure they still want you dipping into your kids piggy bank to buy even more stuff from the crown store (or grinding in the game if you insist) lol

EDIT: Just to further clarify, I just looked at one of my rooms in my large home and I have 9 light sources in addition to the windows.

manavortex · January 2017

willlienellson wrote: »

I don't want a bunch of glaring bright lights.

Neither do I - I just want a lit environment, like it's the case with vanilla houses.

willlienellson · January 2017

manavortex wrote: »

willlienellson wrote: »

I don't want a bunch of glaring bright lights.

Neither do I - I just want a lit environment, like it's the case with vanilla houses.

I'm pretty sure you are comparing houses with a different number of light sources. If you look at the comparison picture I can see a light source on the ceiling that is missing from yours. I think it's a main chandelier or something.

Maybe what you actually want is more lights included in the furnished homes.

Jacking up the light output on a few sources for underfurnished homes isn't going to look natural and like "vanilla houses" imho, it's just going to ruin fully furnished homes.

Recremen · January 2017

Yes yes yes!! We absolutely need some kind of interior ambient lighting slider, especially for anything larger than an apartment. I don't know what it is, but the interior spaces just refuse to behave. I've tried bug reporting it and everything but so far no word. :-(

Elara_Northwind · January 2017

I agree, many of the houses are far too dark, and need too many candles to make them look good, which kind of defeats the object because it looks odd with so many candles and lanterns dotted about all over the place... I can't remember the exact number, but I know it was over 100 light sources I used in that dark elf house to make it look brighter, and many little corners etc. were still darker than they should have been... You shouldn't have to use over a quarter of your item allowance on lighting

manavortex · January 2017

willlienellson wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you are comparing houses with a different number of light sources. If you look at the comparison picture I can see a light source on the ceiling that is missing from yours. I think it's a main chandelier or something.

I've not done anything about the first one, just bought this as-it-was, so that one aside - as for the second, I have been trying around a bunch, and I haven't found any ceiling light source that was brighter than the Mehrunes sconces.

manavortex · January 2017

@SadieJoan I'd like to see a screenie of that

Elara_Northwind · January 2017

manavortex wrote: »

@SadieJoan I'd like to see a screenie of that

I don't have a screenie, but I do have a video, which really does highlight the darkness of the dunmer houses!

I think they seem to suffer much more than the others when it comes to lighting issues, I don't know why that is... Unlike other houses, I found myself just constantly placing more and more lighting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrqmjxUnh6g

manavortex · January 2017

That's a lot of candles, lol.
Also, it kind of defies the point of a furniture limit if you use up 25% of the budget for lightning

Elara_Northwind · January 2017

manavortex wrote: »

That's a lot of candles, lol.
Also, it kind of defies the point of a furniture limit if you use up 25% of the budget for lightning

It really does

If only they could increase the range in which the lighting spreads perhaps? You seem to place a light, and it fills such a small area, leaving most of the room unchanged! Or even increase the amount of natural light in some of the buildings...

Valorin · January 2017

It's definately too dark in player houses. In order to make a room not look like a dark basement you need a lot of lightsources, which looks kinda ridiculous and is also very expensive.
Less lensflare, more light radius would be awesome.

willlienellson · January 2017

Valorin wrote: »

Less lensflare, more light radius would be awesome.

NTY, unless it's going to be an option, then that's great.

RandomSilliness · May 2017

What I find most annoying is a 10k gold (400 crown) epic sconce sporting 3 candles puts out less light than a single tea light (the smallest, cheapest, candle). I actually placed two cheap pillars right onto the sconce to beef up the light output. Then learned that while the pillars are lit, I can't tell if the expensive sconce is lit or not, cuz it puts out so little light.

Chandeliers and braziers are all over the place. Some work, but some aren't even as bright as a single tea light candle. At least one of the hanging braziers (i forget which) has merely simmering coals, but puts out more light than a roaring fireplace fire. I recently purchased redguard hanging lantern, and it cast light only horizontally. No downward light at all.

It ain't hard. Light output and resulting surface illumination at any distance is linked directly via simple equation. You don't need a graphic artist to "eyeball it".

davey1107 · May 2017

The houses are way too dark. With the number of lights I have in Hundings it shoild look like an Apple Store...but it's still dim.

Carbonised · May 2017

This was mentioned plenty on Homestead PTS - and summarily ignored (but hey, devs are listening, remember ...)

Why they decide to offer us tombs instead of houses is forever a mystery to me, and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for more light interiors, sadly.

Avran_Sylt · May 2017

Right. So, what you should do is fiddle with your in game gamma settings:

Reach this by going through:
Settings => Video => Display

Try calibration, or adjusting the slider to your needs.

Don't Forget your monitor brightness does play a part in this too, so check that.

Edit: If you've done that, make a thread asking for placable ambient lighting.

wiff_wacer · May 2017

Did that, of course. I have an NVIDIA GPU now, which somewhat circumvents the issue, but on my AMD there was no way I'd get the place to light up.

Novaesi · May 2017

I recently finished one of the medium sized Imperial houses, 400 total items and I used 40 lights, most were in the interior of the house and it's still pretty dark in some areas. I would like to see the ambient light inside these darker homes turned up just a little.

DarcyMardin · May 2017

I agree that the houses are much too dark. There are many houses that I won't even consider buying because they're tomb-dark inside. I've filled mine with lights of various kinds, but they each illuminate a tiny area. Plus, the more lights I have to install to try to dispel the gloom, the fewer furnishings I can add.

Maybe some folks prefer the dark medieval atmosphere, but can't we have options? I need more ambient light!

EC_Rob · May 2017

I have the Daggerfall castle and i am using an actual pvp scroll to lighten the main hall... Otherwise its too dark... i'd personally like a brightness option for them. I would like certain rooms darker than others

Enjoy!

Nox_Noir · May 2017

The light ranges are really damn small, I'm guessing it was done for performance reasons.
(The best lights I've found so far are those redguard canister lantern things, they seem to have the largest range)

manavortex · May 2017

While I was able to light up my life with the NVIDIA settings, this still seems to be an issue for many. Maybe check it out again, @ZOS people?