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Are Vamp aesthetics ever going to be optional?
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Aren't vampires in fairy tales supposed to be attractive? You don't seduce your prey by looking like a syphillitic meth head.9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭"Are Vamp aesthetics ever going to be optional?"
Well if you play ESO and aesthetics are important to you and you don't like how vampire look, but you want to be a vampire... Erm... no there is now way I know of, other than a disguise or armour completely covering you, or simply not to be a vampire...
And yes I understand this. There is nothing more annoying than "steering" a character that appearance you don't like.
btw. It gave me an idea... what if.. just what if.. there ware some special "costumes" or "alternative looks" for WW and Vamps in crown store ?
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Betheny✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Aren't vampires in fairy tales supposed to be attractive? You don't seduce your prey by looking like a syphillitic meth head.
Prey doesn't get seduced, prey gets stalked.
Not only are vampires butt ugly, but they're also crazy stalkers.0 -
Fodore✭✭✭✭It is optional... you dont have to be a vamprie
We know, but it's sorta dumb when in game characters are vampires and don't look like them ( e.g. In the main post ).Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.After that who cares?They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.3 -
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It would have slightly ruined the questline if we knew from the very start just by looking at him. That's probably the only reason he doesn't look as freakish as the other vamps.2 -
Fodore✭✭✭✭
It would have slightly ruined the questline if we knew from the very start just by looking at him. That's probably the only reason he doesn't look as freakish as the other vamps.
That's not the point I made is it? If in game characters can be camp and look normal, we should be able to
Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.After that who cares?They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.4 -
Ghettokid✭✭✭✭✭
✭In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.Edited by Ghettokid on January 21, 2017 11:25AM2 -
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It would have slightly ruined the questline if we knew from the very start just by looking at him. That's probably the only reason he doesn't look as freakish as the other vamps.
That's not the point I made is it? If in game characters can be camp and look normal, we should be able to
Well my point was that the only reason he was allowed to look normal was for the sake of the story being told to us players.
Making you look normal would be worst for pvp most likely, because people wouldn't be able to know you have the vamp skills or are weak to fire. So you get to look like a vamp, again for the sake of the players.
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Fodore✭✭✭✭In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
That's completely different... as a we you do look normal unless you transform, and when you do transform you are in that form temporarily, you are also a ww, meaning you are completely different to a human like race. Vamp is permanent (unless you cure) and just puts a skin over the top of your character.Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.After that who cares?They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.1 -
Fodore✭✭✭✭And I think a lot of you are forgetting that when verandil does reveal his vampirism, the only difference is red eyes, no blood shot areas around the body/face and no chalky tone to the skin...Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.After that who cares?They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.0
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✭✭And I think a lot of you are forgetting that when verandil does reveal his vampirism, the only difference is red eyes, no blood shot areas around the body/face and no chalky tone to the skin...
As I've just completed the Rivenspire questline again... you're wrong. Even in the first meeting Verandis is rather pale, although his eyes look normal. In later meetings he is in stage 2 or 3 with the appropriate visuals applied, i.e. the chalky skin and bloodshot areas around the eyes/cheeks.
It's somewhat hard to see because of his hairstyle, but it's there. And all of his companion vampires like Gwendis and Adusa-daro are apprently unable to hide the vampiric nature. So it's either a spell or potion or if it's an actual ability it is either tied to his age and thus mastery over his nature or a gift from Molag Bal (since he mentions Molag Bal as his creator).2 -
Akrasjel✭✭✭✭You want to be a vampire and that means you look like one.
If you want to be "aesthetically pleasing" then don't be one.[PC][EU][Daggerfall Covenant]
Akrasjel Lanate - Imperial Nightblade | 50 | CP900+
Born: 2E 551
Member of: | Traders of the Covenant | Hammerfell Trading | Imperial Trading Company |
Houses: Strident Springs Demesne,2 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm a vampire and I can hide it so no one can tell . Haha
Please fix the look so we don't have to hide our vampirism anymore .1 -
Sinolai✭✭✭✭✭I dont really care as I am not into vampiricism (Team Jacob FTW!) But stage 1 vamp should look like a normal man/mer/argonian/khajiit/helicopter with red eyes.
Edit. Add this effect to Bloody Mara drink
Tell that to NosferatuMLGProPlayer wrote: »Aren't vampires in fairy tales supposed to be attractive? You don't seduce your prey by looking like a syphillitic meth head.
ps. You can use disguises to hide the vampiric look, although you also hide all your cosmetic effects purchased from Crown Store and return to your vanilla appearance.Edited by Sinolai on January 21, 2017 12:39PM1 -
Seratopia✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Aren't vampires in fairy tales supposed to be attractive? You don't seduce your prey by looking like a syphillitic meth head.
Came here to say this! Vampires should get more attractive as they go further in stage.. to be more likely to seduce prey and draw them in fast and feed. Is it safe to say from an evolutionary stand point this would be more accurate?
There is even a book found in Hildune's Secret refuge of Rivenspire named "I Saw Him Again Tonight."
I saw him again tonight. He was across the stream, but the waters only reflected the moon above us. We walked, with the babbling waters between us, but it was as if we were walking side-by-side.
Why does someone I've only seen and never touched excite me so much? Why do I spend all day longing for nightfall, for another tantalizing glimpse of this pale stranger?
My husband is a plain man, an honest man. Good for putting bread on the table and keeping me warm and comfortable. He doesn't suspect anything of my nocturnal activities. Still, I hate lying to him.
I don't know what to do. Who ever thought I'd find myself in this situation?
This lady has to be thinking some hungry (staged) vampire is attractive. Everyone says player played vampires are hideous with their herpes infected faces. I don't know about anyone else but I don't see anyone being seduced by the way vamps look in game as compared to what is written in that book. Unless the guy hid his face real good.0 -
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✭✭✭✭In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!Edited by DocFrost72 on January 21, 2017 1:44PM4 -
Emencie✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!
The world supports it.
I just did a quest yesterday where my character was turned into a Breton. My character can change race, appearance, and even sex seemingly at will by using simple enchanted items. ES lore supports hiding vampirism, But it also supports hiding pretty much anything you want whenever you want.3 -
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✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!
The world supports it.
I just did a quest yesterday where my character was turned into a Breton. My character can change race, appearance, and even sex seemingly at will by using simple enchanted items. ES lore supports hiding vampirism, But it also supports hiding pretty much anything you want whenever you want.
Exactly.
I feel like there could be good reasons against it, but a simple "No" is infuriating.1 -
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✭DocFrost72 wrote: »In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!
Keep ur pants on pal. I said I want to look normal in WW-form, I never said that some silly lore supports that.(its not really silly). In that logic I need to stop dreaming about being president of US, because law says that foreigners cannot be president.
+ I also want to be able to hide my vampirism with some of my orcs.
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Emencie✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!
The world supports it.
I just did a quest yesterday where my character was turned into a Breton. My character can change race, appearance, and even sex seemingly at will by using simple enchanted items. ES lore supports hiding vampirism, But it also supports hiding pretty much anything you want whenever you want.
Exactly.
I feel like there could be good reasons against it, but a simple "No" is infuriating.
The reason against is game mechanics.
The lore supports that illusion magic can do just about anything. You could be an argonian male vampire, in heavy armor with swords. and the lore supports you looking like a bosmer female mortal, in light armor with an axe.
The lore says this is possible.
But gameplay says otherwise.Edited by Emencie on January 21, 2017 2:11PM0 -
Fodore✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!
Keep ur pants on pal. I said I want to look normal in WW-form, I never said that some silly lore supports that.(its not really silly). In that logic I need to stop dreaming about being president of US, because law says that foreigners cannot be president.
+ I also want to be able to hide my vampirism with some of my orcs.
I really don't get that "foreigners can't be president thing" we're all fkin foreigners!And I think a lot of you are forgetting that when verandil does reveal his vampirism, the only difference is red eyes, no blood shot areas around the body/face and no chalky tone to the skin...
As I've just completed the Rivenspire questline again... you're wrong. Even in the first meeting Verandis is rather pale, although his eyes look normal. In later meetings he is in stage 2 or 3 with the appropriate visuals applied, i.e. the chalky skin and bloodshot areas around the eyes/cheeks.
It's somewhat hard to see because of his hairstyle, but it's there. And all of his companion vampires like Gwendis and Adusa-daro are apprently unable to hide the vampiric nature. So it's either a spell or potion or if it's an actual ability it is either tied to his age and thus mastery over his nature or a gift from Molag Bal (since he mentions Molag Bal as his creator).
Oh right, well I know it never used to be like that, I haven't done it for a while and this is an old ss. But still, as others have pointed out, lots of lore support the disguising of vampirism
Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.After that who cares?They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.1 -
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Why must I keep my pants on?! /sarcasm (included this time)DocFrost72 wrote: »In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!
Keep ur pants on pal. I said I want to look normal in WW-form, I never said that some silly lore supports that.(its not really silly). In that logic I need to stop dreaming about being president of US, because law says that foreigners cannot be president.
+ I also want to be able to hide my vampirism with some of my orcs.
Also, hate to break it to you, but you'd need a constitutional amendment to become a president in the US, good luck with the current administration. The rules say x, so we follow x. The lore says vamps can hide, so I say let them hide.
No hard feelings from theearlier post, just found it a bad comparison.Edited by DocFrost72 on January 21, 2017 2:18PM0 -
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✭I like the vampire look, I only wish that body markings were visible (eg. Tattoos, my khajiits stripes, etc.)1 -
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...DocFrost72 wrote: »In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!
Keep ur pants on pal. I said I want to look normal in WW-form, I never said that some silly lore supports that.(its not really silly). In that logic I need to stop dreaming about being president of US, because law says that foreigners cannot be president.
+ I also want to be able to hide my vampirism with some of my orcs.
I really don't get that "foreigners can't be president thing" we're all fkin foreigners!
OrcEdited by Ghettokid on January 21, 2017 2:18PM0 -
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Thats okay babe.DocFrost72 wrote: »
Why must I keep my pants on?! /sarcasm (included this time)DocFrost72 wrote: »In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
Oh, okay! Find me a lore book that supports this and I'm game!
Lore book that supports vampires being indistinguishable:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
Honestly the argument that vampires have to look ugly is baseless. We live in a world of magic, where not only are there vampires that can hide their appearance when well fed, but even as a fallback illusion is strong.
We can make a cat two different versions of a high elf, a woman a fern, and be entirely invisible- but no way we can make our vampires look mortal. I mean, it's not like some would try to blend in; they love being hunted!
Keep ur pants on pal. I said I want to look normal in WW-form, I never said that some silly lore supports that.(its not really silly). In that logic I need to stop dreaming about being president of US, because law says that foreigners cannot be president.
+ I also want to be able to hide my vampirism with some of my orcs.
Also, hate to break it to you, but you'd need a constitutional amendment to become a president in the US, good luck with the current administration. The rules say x, so we follow x. The lore says vamps can hide, so I say let them hide.
No hard feelings from theearlier post, just found it a bad comparison.
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✭✭so if i roll an argonian for the race buff bit don't like the look i should be able to hide it?
you chose to be a parasite, it is appropriate that you look like one.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »so if i roll an argonian for the race buff bit don't like the look i should be able to hide it?
you chose to be a parasite, it is appropriate that you look like one.
Don't mess with this players role playing . He takes it very seriously . So seriously everyone must RolePlay his way lol0 -
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Lets just say vampires are always transformed so you will always look like a vampire.In that case I want to be in WW-from, but look normal.
That's completely different... as a we you do look normal unless you transform, and when you do transform you are in that form temporarily, you are also a ww, meaning you are completely different to a human like race. Vamp is permanent (unless you cure) and just puts a skin over the top of your character.
Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on January 21, 2017 2:44PM1
