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Nerfing my fun

VonSwaego
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So, this is what I've done:
Dark elf dragon night.
Head: pelinals/ heavy/ infused/ prismatic / outlaw motif.
Chest: Trainee/ heavy/ reinforced/ prismatic/ red guard motif.
Legs: pelinals/ heavy/ reinforced/ prismatic/ mercenary motif
Waist: trainee/ light/ training / prismatic/ redgaurd motif
Hands: pelinals/ heavy/ divines/ prismatic redgaurd motif
Feet: pelinals/ heavy/ divines/ prismatic
Neck: trainee/ arcane/ wep dmg
Rings: trainee/ robust/ healthy/ wep dmg
Sword: endurance/defending/ dmg enchant/ covenant style
shield: endurance/ reinforced/ prismatic/ covenant style
Inferno staff: willpower/ precise/ flame enchant/ covenant style
Gives the DK 35k health, and 26k mag & stam, when on sword and sheild bar.

This "build" is nothing new I know, but I really enjoyed playing it. Ive been trying to make a perfectly balanced build since game launch, and I'm sure this is the best I'll ever get in ESO. This buil is the only reason I'm still playing ESO, I got bored with fotm,meta, and slowly being forced into the holy trinity a long time ago. I desperately wanted this build to be viable in endgame content so I did the only thing I could think of to make it happen. I made four of them. Hybrids by themselves in this game suck, but a gruop of 4 can be good right? Maybe?I convinced three buddy's, a sorc, a Templar, and a nightblade, to put this suit on promising that it would be fun. They were in the same spot as me, bored and about done with ESO.

The sorc was the first to try it ( not easy to convince long time meta players to try something this ridiculous, but I know weebles, send him a suit of armor in the mail and he'll put it on lol). Me and the sorc did some testing, dungeoning, the usual... saw some potential in this. Next one to get the suit was my longtime healer. Didn't work out, can't take the healer out of that guy anymore, so we had to take him out of his comfort zone. He begrudgingly agreed to level up a nightblade. ( this build will not make you a heavy armor healer, he ran out of magic a lot). So I convinced a friend who had quit playing the game a year ago to log back on with his Templar. He was always a tank anyway, not much of an adjustment for him.
Basically my dk runs the fire staff, sorc runs the lightning, nightblade runs the ice, and Templar runs the resto. Sword and sheild on the other bar. Finally got to play as a full group for the first time about two weeks ago, and I must say the results were better than I'd hoped for. I would go into detail about skills and rotations, but this post is getting long enough and I haven't even made my point yet.
It took us lot to get to this point, resources, grinding for gear( I had to get all the trainee pieces myself, part of the deal. Lol). We're not at full power as a group yet, but the excitement is back. Something new, different, and challenging to keep this group playing together. The sorc still insists he will never play his glass cannon build again, so he must be enjoying it. We all had dreams of going head to head with Vdsa once we got all the tweaking done... and then we read the pts patch notes.
I will wait until the patch goes live before to see how bad the heavy armor and trainee nerf hits my little hybrid group, though I can't say the same for the others. I don't understand the nerfs.. trainee not being used as intended? Using trainee in this build has taught everyone in the group a lesson in sustain an class abilities. No proc sets to count on for heals/damage. Cauterize is actually crazy helpful in this group, didn't think there was ever a use for that skill till now. That just one example. "It's called trainee for a reason". Well I'm training an entire group of hybrids with it right now. Lol. If it's OP I don't see it, a pure min/max build is definitely stronger than this. If it was only intended for newbies, then don't let us have cp160 versions of it.
I fear the soon to be nerfs will inevitably force us back into the meta, fotm, Holy trinity, whatever.... and I will lose my group to another game. It was fun while it lasted I guess, we took those hybrids through some crazy stuff. Hell of a ride
  • runagate
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    I am so, so sorry that you put all this work into this interesting project and it's getting nerfed for no reason. There's nothing OP about hybrids nor having mostly Training as a trait. What a waste.
  • geonsocal
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    nice post OP, good read...

    keep fighting the "good" fight and keep hope alive for us "balance/hybrid" fanatics...
    PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place
  • The_Duke
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    I was pissed as well. I have a stam sorc and stam dk hybrid. You can still get decent numbers another route.

    I get 30k stam, 20k mag and 25k hp in cyrodiil and 3500 WD without dawnbreaker. running arcane agility 3 piece, pelinals medium, kena 1 piece and selenes other. Random 2h or maelstrom if you have it.

    It can be a true hybrid if you gimp on resource to help another but I prefer to spec in stam for rolling, cc breaking and blocking.

    My sorc has 12 k frags and 12 k wrecking blow. 10k curse. The burst is amazing in PVP.

    My DK has insane healing from vigor, rally, burning embers, whip, stone fist. All mixed with igneous for the major mending.

    Its still doable, just an unnecessary nerf to a great hybrid set in my opinion.

    The Duke

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    Guild leader of The Dukes. PS4
  • runagate
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    @The_Duke I would be super confused if someone hit me with WB and frags. That alone would make it worth it.
  • VonSwaego
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    runagate wrote: »
    @The_Duke I would be super confused if someone hit me with WB and frags. That alone would make it worth it.

    @The_Duke I totally agree with this statement.
    Thanks for the advice, nice to know there's still some options out there.
  • Waffennacht
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    I did enjoy your thread, made me sad though. Never once did I feel trainee was OP. I even tried it myself, sure I got good base stats, but that was it, dropped it for more of what you said, "min max gear"

    I also thought your group was awesome. I love how each of you have do have different classes and weapons too!

    You guys werewolves too? It would just be awesome to see this group also all go wolf on something...

    Too cool
    Edited by Waffennacht on January 20, 2017 11:19PM
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  • VonSwaego
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    @Waffennacht I'm the only werewolf in the group right now, but that was something we were planning on trying in the future. Not sure it will happen now
  • The_Duke
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    runagate wrote: »
    @The_Duke I would be super confused if someone hit me with WB and frags. That alone would make it worth it.

    Its pretty crazy how well it works. I pump curse to proc an instant frag. Then I hit frag and crit rush at the same time. They will both hit at once, then the curse goes off just as you hit your first dizzying swing.

    Thats curse, frag crit rush and WB in 3 seconds or less. Tremendous burst. If you have DB up its over for whomever you are fighting. They will be in execute range at this point.

    Its a little out of the normal and usually unexpected. My overloads are crazy on this build as well.

    Strictly PVP.

    The Duke

    Stamplar

    Guild leader of The Dukes. PS4
  • BigBragg
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    With the changes to black rose, making the fourth bonus magicka and will be offered in jewelry and weapons, these fun builds can live on. I believe!
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