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Motifs + Research - (Account wide please)
Cpt_Teemo
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It really don't matter which character you have it on to be honest, all my 4 level 50s have maxed crafting but they're just completely useless except for the writs that's about it. We earned the motifs + researches so it would be nice to just globally unlock them now so we can get rid of all these addons that tell which character has what.
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✭I would prefer mounts to be account wide, that is the one thing stopping me from leveling more alts, I don't want to continue to feed a mount for 6 months -_-15 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭yeah if this were to happens, I could get master writs on 12 chars extremely fast, which wont be fair with such a huge advantage and it would drive a huge cap in the economy in the game between newcomers and people that have already researched everything1 -
thisisScoMan✭✭✭✭No.Xbox One. NA Server
Australian.
600+ CP
DC - 3 x Level 50
AD - 2 x Level 50
EP - 3 x Level 506 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Artemiisia wrote: »yeah if this were to happens, I could get master writs on 12 chars extremely fast, which wont be fair with such a huge advantage and it would drive a huge cap in the economy in the game between newcomers and people that have already researched everything
Yeah If they did I would like the master writs to be account wide anyway per day not character as above poster said, cause they do sure cost a ton to do from what I hear and the average player won't be able to keep up with them every day even if they could.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Also no.skiptomyluau wrote: »I'm all for this but if so the writs should be once per account too
Exactly.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »yeah if this were to happens, I could get master writs on 12 chars extremely fast, which wont be fair with such a huge advantage and it would drive a huge cap in the economy in the game between newcomers and people that have already researched everything
Yeah If they did I would like the master writs to be account wide anyway per day not character as above poster said, cause they do sure cost a ton to do from what I hear and the average player won't be able to keep up with them every day even if they could.
Oh, it wouldn't be just Master Writs. It would have to be ALL writs once per account only.The Moot Councillor9 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Also no.skiptomyluau wrote: »I'm all for this but if so the writs should be once per account too
Exactly.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »yeah if this were to happens, I could get master writs on 12 chars extremely fast, which wont be fair with such a huge advantage and it would drive a huge cap in the economy in the game between newcomers and people that have already researched everything
Yeah If they did I would like the master writs to be account wide anyway per day not character as above poster said, cause they do sure cost a ton to do from what I hear and the average player won't be able to keep up with them every day even if they could.
Oh, it wouldn't be just Master Writs. It would have to be ALL writs once per account only.
I already have 7 characters doing writs every day, it sure does seem like an account wide already you don't need traits to do the normal writs as the master ones do0 -
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✭I would prefer mounts to be account wide, that is the one thing stopping me from leveling more alts, I don't want to continue to feed a mount for 6 months -_-Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Well mounts are account wide but yeah the feeding isn't
Yea i meant feeding lol if I max it on one character it should be maxed for all
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✭✭✭✭✭This is the kind of stuff you debate before the game releases, not three years later.signing off7 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Also no.skiptomyluau wrote: »I'm all for this but if so the writs should be once per account too
Exactly.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »yeah if this were to happens, I could get master writs on 12 chars extremely fast, which wont be fair with such a huge advantage and it would drive a huge cap in the economy in the game between newcomers and people that have already researched everything
Yeah If they did I would like the master writs to be account wide anyway per day not character as above poster said, cause they do sure cost a ton to do from what I hear and the average player won't be able to keep up with them every day even if they could.
Oh, it wouldn't be just Master Writs. It would have to be ALL writs once per account only.
I already have 7 characters doing writs every day, it sure does seem like an account wide already you don't need traits to do the normal writs as the master ones do
To me this is an argument against, not for, your original request. You have 7 characters doing daily writs, you want to put the effort into learning traits and motifs once and benefit from it 7 times, and have 7 daily opportunities to get master writs. No, just no.Edited by Reverb on January 18, 2017 4:58AMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »It really don't matter which character you have it on to be honest, all my 4 level 50s have maxed crafting but they're just completely useless except for the writs that's about it. We earned the motifs + researches so it would be nice to just globally unlock them now so we can get rid of all these addons that tell which character has what.
Most players organize their real crafters to so motifs can be all on one character. Additionally, others are preparing for the update and collecting motifs and doing research on alts. Zos understands it would not bode well for them if they made motifs and research account wide after players already went through all this effort and expense.
I would not hold your breath on the idea. Zos knows exactly what they are doing with the master writs.1 -
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✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Also no.skiptomyluau wrote: »I'm all for this but if so the writs should be once per account too
Exactly.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »yeah if this were to happens, I could get master writs on 12 chars extremely fast, which wont be fair with such a huge advantage and it would drive a huge cap in the economy in the game between newcomers and people that have already researched everything
Yeah If they did I would like the master writs to be account wide anyway per day not character as above poster said, cause they do sure cost a ton to do from what I hear and the average player won't be able to keep up with them every day even if they could.
Oh, it wouldn't be just Master Writs. It would have to be ALL writs once per account only.
I already have 7 characters doing writs every day, it sure does seem like an account wide already you don't need traits to do the normal writs as the master ones do
To me this is an argument against, not for, your original request. You have 7 characters doing daily writs, you want to put the effort into learning traits and motifs once and benefit from it 7 times, and have 7 daily opportunities to get master writs. No, just no.
What I meant was to have the master writ be doable once per day on the account, not how the regular writs are
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✭✭✭✭✭The only motifs that need to be account wide are the crown store ones.
I do agree with this, anything bought with real-life currency should be account wide.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The thing is, noone NEEDS account-wide crafting.
Pick one gear crafter character. Research stuff and learn motivs on that one only.
No others really need any crafting because they can just transfer all stuff to be crafted per the shared bank.
And all the long playing people who have supported ESO over the last two years will hate it...
And it messes with achievements, since characters get them for learning crafting styles...
And it would be problematic with resaearch as well. I mean... individual characters can spend skill points for extra research slots. But... if all research were accunt wide, then how'd that work with extra research slots?
Oh, I am sure the "gimme crowd" would love to have actual research counted individually, and the researched traits count account wide - start one project on a different trait on each character, and then get them all after a day account wide... but that would be rather unfair.
So if research were account wide as well... the people at ZOS would have to reqrite the whole code for that, remove it from the currently "stored with character info" and put it on "stored with account info"... meaning loads of effort for no return on their part.
And then... we hit the extra research slot thing again, after all, it would be unfair if one character could unlock extra research slots for the whole account...
So, the whole idea is a lot of effort, a lot of trouble, brings no profit to ZOS and is completely unneeded.
So, they'd have to be foolish to spend their effort there when they can spend it on making a new DLC...4 -
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✭✭✭Somebody wants to do master writs on all characters without putting in the effort it requires...BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA1 -
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✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »It really don't matter which character you have it on to be honest, all my 4 level 50s have maxed crafting but they're just completely useless except for the writs that's about it. We earned the motifs + researches so it would be nice to just globally unlock them now so we can get rid of all these addons that tell which character has what.
The only motifs that should be account wide are the crown store exclusive ones. Research isn't earned it just a waiting game. If they allowed this the daily writs could be abused.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭We already have dyes and champion points account-wide, we don't need anything else. I'd much prefer it all to be character-specific, it makes multiple characters so much more enjoyable for those who regard them as equal individual characters rather than one main and a bunch of fast-track endgame toons.3 -
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✭We already have dyes and champion points account-wide, we don't need anything else. I'd much prefer it all to be character-specific, it makes multiple characters so much more enjoyable for those who regard them as equal individual characters rather than one main and a bunch of fast-track endgame toons.
I agree with one exception, the cs exclusive motifs should be account wide. Only the exclusive motifs. Anything found in game whether or not it can be bought in the cs should not be considered.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Also no.skiptomyluau wrote: »I'm all for this but if so the writs should be once per account too
Exactly.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »yeah if this were to happens, I could get master writs on 12 chars extremely fast, which wont be fair with such a huge advantage and it would drive a huge cap in the economy in the game between newcomers and people that have already researched everything
Yeah If they did I would like the master writs to be account wide anyway per day not character as above poster said, cause they do sure cost a ton to do from what I hear and the average player won't be able to keep up with them every day even if they could.
Oh, it wouldn't be just Master Writs. It would have to be ALL writs once per account only.
I already have 7 characters doing writs every day, it sure does seem like an account wide already you don't need traits to do the normal writs as the master ones do
Yes. And the motif knowledge of the toon that opens the normal writ box influences the chance of you getting a Master Writ out of it.
Which is why I'm saying that if you want Motifs to be account-wide (which I don't agree with), then they would have to limit writs to one type per day for your entire account. So you could do them on any character you wanted, but as soon as one character did the writ, other characters wouldn't be able to do that same writ for that day.The Moot Councillor0 -
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✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Also no.skiptomyluau wrote: »I'm all for this but if so the writs should be once per account too
Exactly.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »yeah if this were to happens, I could get master writs on 12 chars extremely fast, which wont be fair with such a huge advantage and it would drive a huge cap in the economy in the game between newcomers and people that have already researched everything
Yeah If they did I would like the master writs to be account wide anyway per day not character as above poster said, cause they do sure cost a ton to do from what I hear and the average player won't be able to keep up with them every day even if they could.
Oh, it wouldn't be just Master Writs. It would have to be ALL writs once per account only.
I already have 7 characters doing writs every day, it sure does seem like an account wide already you don't need traits to do the normal writs as the master ones do
Yes. And the motif knowledge of the toon that opens the normal writ box influences the chance of you getting a Master Writ out of it.
Which is why I'm saying that if you want Motifs to be account-wide (which I don't agree with), then they would have to limit writs to one type per day for your entire account. So you could do them on any character you wanted, but as soon as one character did the writ, other characters wouldn't be able to do that same writ for that day.
Maby not for the basic writs, since most of everyone does it on the account anyway but for master writs yes that's what I was trying to get at, once per account daily0 -
MakeUcrazY✭✭✭I don't understand the argument of master writs by a low lvl character being abused. Just this past weekend I did my writs with my cp260 sorc, returned them to craglorn, and from my blacksmithing I received a beautiful crate of iron ingots. It was awesome!
I have always used one character for crafting, it's my main. Except for all the nirn, I have all traits researched. I honestly wouldn't care one way or another if crafting was account-wide. After all, you can only craft what that character has skill points dumped into, right? So I keep my crafting character and on my alts I spend the points on other skills.
Most achievemts, especially fishing, should be account-wide. However, I do understand why titles should not be shared between alts. If I understand coding, separating achievements and titles should be easy to do.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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