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Pet sorcs and sorcs in general - OP and no fun

  • Dark_Aether
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    Duukar wrote: »
    I have faced about 5 mag sorcs since the patch on the PTS..

    The results have been alarming. While i consistently beat stam DKs and stam sorcs and stam NBs The magicka sorc has given me A LOT of trouble..

    Please tell me how you are consistently beating them.

    Their CC is mixed into their burst too nicely and then those pets hitting HARD and CCing as well.

    I had a pet CC me today and I couldnt break CC despiute having full stam.

    Just freaking weird.

    You are literally asking to nerf a class because you can't adjust your playstyle to counter it.

    A little advice for your next fight againts a mag sorc, coming from a mag sorc; attack the stam pool with cc and killing a sorc will be the easiest thing you've ever done.
  • Iselin
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    I knew giving dueling to the masses was a bad idea and the OP just confirmed it. All these wannabe theorycrafters now... sheesh.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Pets will be even stronger next patch when they increase their resistance with 100%

    This is the PTS forums. Hes talking about the new pet buffs.
    PS4 NA DC
  • Khaos_Bane
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    Just remove pets please.

    Honestly hard to believe someone created a nerf pets thread though.
  • Duukar
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    I have been at this since day 2 of release as a NB.

    When stam was weak I was stam. When Mag was weak I was Mag. Ive always gone against the current meta. Ive always made my own builds with occasional flavor influences from guys like Sypher.

    despite going against the meta Ive always done well.

    When you could 1vX I 1vXed with good success. Proc sets ruined that pretty much.

    I am literally solo 100% of the time except a few months ago when I found a strong pvp guild to run with. That lasted like 1.5 months.

    When solo, I usually get between 30k-50k Ap an hour according to my addon. Grouped it goes up to 80k-100k+ depending on the day. These are all honest numbers.

    I have mastered VMA - I have Sharp Daggers, Sharp inferno staff, Defending maul, Crit bows, powered resto and a bunch of garbage. I was on the leader board when that actually meant something.

    To call me a noob and a "wannabe theory crafter" is absurd and incorrect.


    Pet Sorcs in duels are stupidly OP. This is what the post is about and this is THE TRUTH. To deny this is to lie.

    Simple formulas for defeating player enemies are absurd and just a big joke.

  • Aedaryl
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    Duukar wrote: »
    I have been at this since day 2 of release as a NB.

    When stam was weak I was stam. When Mag was weak I was Mag. Ive always gone against the current meta. Ive always made my own builds with occasional flavor influences from guys like Sypher.

    despite going against the meta Ive always done well.

    When you could 1vX I 1vXed with good success. Proc sets ruined that pretty much.

    I am literally solo 100% of the time except a few months ago when I found a strong pvp guild to run with. That lasted like 1.5 months.

    When solo, I usually get between 30k-50k Ap an hour according to my addon. Grouped it goes up to 80k-100k+ depending on the day. These are all honest numbers.

    I have mastered VMA - I have Sharp Daggers, Sharp inferno staff, Defending maul, Crit bows, powered resto and a bunch of garbage. I was on the leader board when that actually meant something.

    To call me a noob and a "wannabe theory crafter" is absurd and incorrect.


    Pet Sorcs in duels are stupidly OP. This is what the post is about and this is THE TRUTH. To deny this is to lie.

    Simple formulas for defeating player enemies are absurd and just a big joke.


    Can you explain me why it's overpowered pls ?
  • Tasear
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    I don't know they die easily... Never won a duel with someone above champion level. Though is doing something wrong if I won. Also this was needed buff for under champion
    sorc healers. Most things one shot it.

    P.S not pets but familiars
    Edited by Tasear on January 16, 2017 9:09PM
  • runagate
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    Sorc pets should be gotten rid of entirely. Super weak or horribly OP they're easily the most annoying thing. Since you can't control them regardless of what they do to whatever they decide to attack they'll never be anything but awful.
  • Subversus
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    a
    Edited by Subversus on January 16, 2017 10:06PM
  • Duukar
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    It's OP because If you leave the scamps they do tons of dmg now and pulsing CC which is weird to break free from.

    Their matriarch does some dmg but is always on standby ready to toss heals should the sorc ever lose some health.

    Hardened ward works on the sorc and its pets.


    So now you CC the scamp and you are left with the matriach and the sorc.

    The sorc is doing respectable dmg the whole time with decent burst at 3.5 and 8.5 seconds.

    If you ever kill the Matriach the sorc will drop minefield and atronach ult. Then resummon.


    So basically what you have is a VERY tanky, VERY bursty, CC heavy, healing heavy. I mean where is the weakness? Sure in open field the pets dont cooperate.

    The pet sorc is performing incredibly well in duels at the moment on the PTS.
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    Duukar wrote: »


    Can you explain me why it's overpowered pls ?
  • mewcatus
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    As I recall, there isn't even a motherboard for duelling, so no bragging rights there. So a niche spec which is good for one thing, yet not the best for the rest in either Co-op PvE and PvP hardly warrants a nerf.
    Edited by mewcatus on January 17, 2017 2:53AM
  • Domander
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    .
    Edited by Domander on January 17, 2017 4:09AM
  • Domander
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    not worth replying
    Edited by Domander on January 17, 2017 4:20AM
  • dpencil
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    There is a prevailing perspective on the eso forums that pets are trash. For a long time, there was truth to that, but things have changed. They are the strongest they have ever been, and if you're on PC they are easily controlable. The Volatile Familiar pulses hit slightly harder than Liquid Lightning, are attached to a pet that will chase the target, and finish with a stun. Would you give up another skill slot to get a dot that could do all that? It's possible to combine Daedric Prey, Cfrag, Mage's Wrath and the stunning Familiar pulse within a 1 second timespan. The rotation only requires 8-10 seconds and has a high chance to get a Cfrag proc while doing the setup. If an immovabe pot is used before you start the rotataion and you use Empowered Ward (10 sec duration), you can perform the full rotation without fear. Only if the opponent can hit you with at least 35k damage in the first 8 seconds do you have to play defensively. In which case recasting shields and healing with the Twilight can be inserted into the rotation. It's a powerful timed burst, but as others have said, it can be countered. You have to neutraise the pets quickly and bash the Sorc to keep him from resummoning while continuing to apply offensive pressure.
  • KramUzibra
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    A little op yes! A skilled sorc can stack and weav for insane tankiness and damage while using stam ultimates like dawn break of smiting as a finisher! Feels like they never run out of resources. Maybe it's just my build though I run medium hundings and marksman.
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