Charging Master's weapons

OrphanHelgen · April 2015

My friend use a Master's inferno staff:

Destructive Touch abilities hit for 486 additional damage and cost reduced by 12%. While equipped, Max Magicka increases by 972.

He does not use Destructive Touch, but still need to charge the weapon 3 times in one simple dungeon. We thought it only used charges when the enchantment was being used. Is this a bug? We are planning on not charging it at all, since we still get the Max Magicka bonus from it, or do we lose something else then just the Destructive Touch bonus?

Kelleton · April 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

My friend use a Master's inferno staff:

Destructive Touch abilities hit for 486 additional damage and cost reduced by 12%. While equipped, Max Magicka increases by 972.

He does not use Destructive Touch, but still need to charge the weapon 3 times in one simple dungeon. We thought it only used charges when the enchantment was being used. Is this a bug? We are planning on not charging it at all, since we still get the Max Magicka bonus from it, or do we lose something else then just the Destructive Touch bonus?

please do something about this...the charges on masters weapons get sapped very very quickly.

Natjur · April 2015

Most weapon enchantments only go down on light\heavy attacks when they are used.
Master weapons use a 'charge' on every skill used (which seems silly)

But if your not using the Destructive Touch, just do what most people do and never charge it, as the other buff (max mana) still works.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · April 2015

Natjur wrote: »

Most weapon enchantments only go down on light\heavy attacks when they are used.
Master weapons use a 'charge' on every skill used (which seems silly)

But if your not using the Destructive Touch, just do what most people do and never charge it, as the other buff (max mana) still works.

Inb4 they change it so that max mag goes away if you dont charge it. There is someone in the ZOS camp chanting "MOAR SINKS" to the team, i just know it.

UrQuan · April 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Most weapon enchantments only go down on light\heavy attacks when they are used.
Master weapons use a 'charge' on every skill used (which seems silly)

But if your not using the Destructive Touch, just do what most people do and never charge it, as the other buff (max mana) still works.

Inb4 they change it so that max mag goes away if you dont charge it. There is someone in the ZOS camp chanting "MOAR SINKS" to the team, i just know it.

Don't worry guys: I got this.

Suru · April 2015

Kelleton wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

My friend use a Master's inferno staff:

Destructive Touch abilities hit for 486 additional damage and cost reduced by 12%. While equipped, Max Magicka increases by 972.

He does not use Destructive Touch, but still need to charge the weapon 3 times in one simple dungeon. We thought it only used charges when the enchantment was being used. Is this a bug? We are planning on not charging it at all, since we still get the Max Magicka bonus from it, or do we lose something else then just the Destructive Touch bonus?

please do something about this...the charges on masters weapons get sapped very very quickly.

1. Put staff on when charged
2. Look at stats
3. Wait till all charges are gone
4. Look at stats
5. Notice how stats are the SAME
6. Most master weapons do NOT need to be charged to maintain the effect.

Garkin · April 2015

Is 972 magicka bonus worth of losing 490 damage from "normal" damage enchant? Is there any point of using Master's destruction staff when you're not going to use destructive touch? I believe that crafted inferno staff with nirnhoned trait and glyph of flame will be better then any master's staff.

OrphanHelgen · April 2015

Garkin wrote: »

Is 972 magicka bonus worth of losing 490 damage from "normal" damage enchant? Is there any point of using Master's destruction staff when you're not going to use destructive touch? I believe that crafted inferno staff with nirnhoned trait and glyph of flame will be better then any master's staff.

Yeah you have a point there.

Natjur · April 2015

Master weapons, some are good, most are ok

Master's inferno staff (and the ice or lighting version) not very useful
Master's Restoration staff, good for trials where you are using Healing Springs alot, otherwise, not very useful
Master's Bow....GREAT for bow builds
Master's Daggers also GREAT for duel wield builds.
Masters Sword, ok for tanking builds but its a small heal and unless it has good traits, not very useful.

All the others..... ok but not great, unless they have the prefect trait for your build, most do not make much of a difference to your build.

But that's just my view and I am sure some players love them. But its always sad when you break them down for materials.

cozmon3c_ESO · April 2015

why not just make master weapons effects a set bonus instead, it makes more sense to me. a 1 piece set bonus, they are master weapons after all.

s7732425ub17_ESO · April 2015

Garkin wrote: »

Is 972 magicka bonus worth of losing 490 damage from "normal" damage enchant? Is there any point of using Master's destruction staff when you're not going to use destructive touch? I believe that crafted inferno staff with nirnhoned trait and glyph of flame will be better then any master's staff.

490 damage every 4 seconds, with 50% crit chance it averages to 612.5 damage every 4 seconds, which is 153 damage per second added from the enchant. If the 972 magicka bonus is not increasing your damage more than 153 per second, then a Master's Staff is doing you no good.

SRIBES · April 2015

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

why not just make master weapons effects a set bonus instead, it makes more sense to me. a 1 piece set bonus, they are master weapons after all.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS please pass this along to someone who has the power to make this change and makenit happen!

OrphanHelgen · April 2015

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

Garkin wrote: »

Is 972 magicka bonus worth of losing 490 damage from "normal" damage enchant? Is there any point of using Master's destruction staff when you're not going to use destructive touch? I believe that crafted inferno staff with nirnhoned trait and glyph of flame will be better then any master's staff.

490 damage every 4 seconds, with 50% crit chance it averages to 612.5 damage every 4 seconds, which is 153 damage per second added from the enchant. If the 972 magicka bonus is not increasing your damage more than 153 per second, then a Master's Staff is doing you no good.

Aah detailed math

I like this. #insightful

G0ku · January 2017

need to necro this, pls fix the enchant, need to recharge at least once when going into a boss fight in vMol. as I didn´t get lucky with a sharpened maelstrom inferno and have an unused spot for staff the masters sharpened inferno is my best bet for the slot

Edziu · January 2017

Natjur wrote: »

Master's inferno staff (and the ice or lighting version) not very useful
Master's Restoration staff, good for trials where you are using Healing Springs alot, otherwise, not very useful
Master's Bow....GREAT for bow builds
Master's Daggers useless for duel wield builds.
Masters Sword, ok for tanking builds but its a small heal and unless it has good traits, not very useful.

fixed

and you forgot about master 2h sword which is also just useless

who will use master dagger for +- additional 250 damage into only blood craze? you will take more into your max dps witch enchant giving you 350 weapon and spell damage

Ladislao · January 2017

Edziu wrote: »

who will use master dagger for +- additional 250 damage into only blood craze? you will take more into your max dps witch enchant giving you 350 weapon and spell damage

It is also worth remembering msa dagger which in everything is better than dsa dagger.

Edziu · January 2017

Ladislao wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

who will use master dagger for +- additional 250 damage into only blood craze? you will take more into your max dps witch enchant giving you 350 weapon and spell damage

It is also worth remembering msa dagger which in everything is better than dsa dagger.

yeah, tis is obvious

but at all much better are also crafted nonset duals with crafted enchants than pathetic master daggers

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · January 2017

G0ku wrote: »

need to necro this, pls fix the enchant, need to recharge at least once when going into a boss fight in vMol. as I didn´t get lucky with a sharpened maelstrom inferno and have an unused spot for staff the masters sharpened inferno is my best bet for the slot

There is no need to charge the master resto or destro, the bonus damage and cost reduction from the destro and stam return from the master resto always applies. The only master enchant that needs recharging is the master sword, the heal doesn't work unless it is charged.

DRXHarbinger · January 2017

Master resto doesn't actually need charging.

G0ku · January 2017

many thanks for the info lads