Would you like to see a Sword and Shield passive similar to DW/2H?

Voxicity · January 2017

Dagger 5% damage... Sword 2.5% damage

Sounds balanced af

Brrrofski · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

danno8 wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

It already has a damage passive. Granted, doesn't help magica, but sword and board is really strong already.

Plus I like the fact I can use anything when using sword and board. Farming/buying sets is a lot better.

Why do you say it doesn't help magicka? Wrath passive gives both weapon/spell damage.

Wrath is a heavy armor passive, not sword and shield.

Savos_Saren · January 2017

Yes- that's an awesome idea!

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Dagger 5% damage... Sword 2.5% damage

Sounds balanced af

That should've been weapon and spell crit for the dagger. Corrected on the original post. Thanks.

bitels · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

Destro staff for tanks
S&B for DDs
Yes- thats make sense.

Takes-No-Prisoner · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

Brrrofski wrote: »

It already has a damage passive. Granted, doesn't help magica, but sword and board is really strong already.

Plus I like the fact I can use anything when using sword and board. Farming/buying sets is a lot better.

Yup, I would be frightened to try and farm any of those new One Tam sets for DW Sharpened Swords. I am just super happy getting a 1h weapon/Shield with a good trait on it from bosses knowing I don't have to spec my S+B for a specific weapon type.

Voxicity · January 2017

jaburns wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Dagger 5% damage... Sword 2.5% damage

Sounds balanced af

That should've been weapon and spell crit for the dagger. Corrected on the original post. Thanks.

Ahh fair enough

Danksta · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

jaburns wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Dagger 5% damage... Sword 2.5% damage

Sounds balanced af

That should've been weapon and spell crit for the dagger. Corrected on the original post. Thanks.

Why would it be spell crit? You don't get spell crit for DW daggers.

Savos_Saren · January 2017

Yes- that's an awesome idea!

Danksta wrote: »

jaburns wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Dagger 5% damage... Sword 2.5% damage

Sounds balanced af

That should've been weapon and spell crit for the dagger. Corrected on the original post. Thanks.

Why would it be spell crit? You don't get spell crit for DW daggers.

Because tanks can use magic/weapon damage for heals. (IE: Burning Embers or Vigor) so any extra weapon/spell crit helps!

AtAfternoon · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

At first I thought it would be kind of cool to add a reason to favour one weapon over another, but in the end it would result in even more RNG.

Savos_Saren · January 2017

Yes- that's an awesome idea!

AtAfternoon wrote: »

At first I thought it would be kind of cool to add a reason to favour one weapon over another, but in the end it would result in even more RNG.

True. Unless you craft it.

WillhelmBlack · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

I hope Wrobel doesn't read this thread.

Browiseth · January 2017

Other- That's close... but here's my suggestion!

I'd say yes, but make them more defensive

EDIT: so for example

Dagger and shield: crit resist
sword and shield: flat % damage reduction
mace and shield: physical and spell resist
axe and shield: DoT resist?

Oakmontowls_ESO · January 2017

Other- That's close... but here's my suggestion!

So to get back on topic I think that the type of one handed weapon that you equip with a shield should have an effect. Whether or not it should be damage based is another topic all together.

Savos_Saren · January 2017

Yes- that's an awesome idea!

Browiseth wrote: »

I'd say yes, but make them more defensive

EDIT: so for example

Dagger and shield: crit resist
sword and shield: flat % damage reduction
mace and shield: physical and spell resist
axe and shield: DoT resist?

That's a fantastic idea as well.

leepalmer95 · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

jaburns wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

I'd say yes, but make them more defensive

EDIT: so for example

Dagger and shield: crit resist
sword and shield: flat % damage reduction
mace and shield: physical and spell resist
axe and shield: DoT resist?

That's a fantastic idea as well.

Now you see i'd agree for something like that that is defensive. Fits with the weapon type.

However saying that s&b is already pretty strong as it is and while it's a nice idea it really doesn't need a buff.

idk · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

We don't need to homogenize all the weapons so they act the same. Besides, it's good to keep S&B with passives better for tanking since it's clear it's not intended to be a strong dps weapon line.

SanTii.92 · January 2017

Yes- that's an awesome idea!

God, point is not about giving S&b more damage but giving the weapon of choice any meaning. Who gives a f is heavy or shield is doing more damge on pvp, jesus

tplink3r1 · January 2017

Yes- that's an awesome idea!

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

We don't need to homogenize all the weapons so they act the same. Besides, it's good to keep S&B with passives better for tanking since it's clear it's not intended to be a strong dps weapon line.

Right, because a 2% buff on damage WILL make it a high dps weapon.
I think the point is just to make weapon types(sword/mace/axe) different from each other.

Savos_Saren · January 2017

Yes- that's an awesome idea!

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

We don't need to homogenize all the weapons so they act the same. Besides, it's good to keep S&B with passives better for tanking since it's clear it's not intended to be a strong dps weapon line.

Right, because a 2% buff on damage WILL make it a high dps weapon.
I think the point is just to make weapon types(sword/mace/axe) different from each other.

Exactly. Somewhere along this post, people limited their ideas to offense only. My suggestions were for offense- but the main point was to give the weapon type meaning. I included the third option for personal suggestions.

I think some people just like to argue for argument's sake.

Zyrudin · January 2017

Other- That's close... but here's my suggestion!

-While using a mace and shield: target gets x% physical and spell resistance reduction for y seconds.
(x has to be appropriately small, taking into account stacking with enchantments and skill debuffs, ex: pierce armor)

-While using a dagger and shield: target gets x% critical resistance reduction for y seconds.
(that is, target takes x% more critical damage over time for y seconds, unless the critical resistance on the target is already zero to begin with, x has to be appropriately small, taking into account stacking with CP and Mundus Stone The Shadow effect)

-While using an axe and shield: target gets x% damage over time resistance reduction for y seconds.
(that is, target takes x% more damage over time for y seconds, x has to be appropriately small, taking into account stacking with several DoT's)

-While using a sword and shield: target gets x% damage reduction for y seconds.
(x has to be appropriately small, taking into account stacking with enchantments and skill debuffs, ex: heroic slash)

Zedrian · January 2017

No- I like battlefield mobility

I said no mainly because you only suggest offensive abilities on these passives, and I don't need more offensive abilities on my tank so no thanks.

The battlefield mobility is actually useful for tanks in PVE, because tanking role is a lot about positioning and in end game content you need to have quick reactions to keep damage away from the rest of your group without getting one shotted

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The only passive that could be modified in my opinion is Sword & Board 1 and 2, which already grants a weapon damage bonus (like you suggest but not weapon specific) and damage mitigation while blocking. For this passive maybe you could replace that 5% weapon damage with weapon specific boons.

Also I agree on the post that there is already too much RNG, these weapon specific passives encourages for more RNG