Shadow provides 18.3% critical damage to abilities. The old warhorn acted as a 1.3 multiplier, so for as long as Major Force is up, you'd actually get 23.79% critical damage (or 5.49% less than previously).

best way to compare would be to consider your total critical damage instead. For the sake of simplicity, let's say Shadow provides 18%, minor force 12%, 10% from CPs and you're a NB / templar (so 10% extra crit). All of these would provide you with 50 (base) + 18 (Shadow) + 12 (Minor force, usually Rearming trap) + 10 (CPs) + 10 (temp / NB), for a total of 100% critical damage, so all your critical hits are doubled (no Major Force).

On live, you get 100 * 1.3 = 130% critical potency as long as Major Force is up (100% uptime).
On PTS, you get 100 + 15 = 115% critical potency as long as Major Force is up (100% uptime).

In a more realistic situation (heavily dependent on group and warhorn rotations, here are your actual average crit potencies for 35 and 50% uptime:

On live with 35% uptime: (100 * 1.3 * 0.35) + 100 * ( 1 - 0.35 ) = 110.5% critical potency.
On PTS with 35% uptime: (100 + 15 ) * 0.35 + 100 * ( 1 - 0.35 ) = 105.25% critical potency.

A 4.75% difference.

On live with 50% uptime: (100 * 1.3 * 0.5) + 100 * ( 1 - 0.5 ) = 115% critical potency.
On PTS with 50% uptime: (100 + 15 ) * 0.5 + 100 * ( 1 - 0.5 ) = 107.5% critical potency.

A 7.5% difference.

Those results are then multiplicative with your critical chance.

Supposing all events being even, you'd have for a few critical chance values (assuming same setup otherwise):

Live / 35% uptime / 50% critical chance: 55.25% DPS increase from critical hits
Live / 35% uptime / 70% critical chance: 77.35% DPS increase from critical hits
Live / 35% uptime / 80% critical chance: 88.4% DPS increase from critical hits

PTS / 35% uptime / 50% critical chance: 52.625% DPS increase from critical hits
PTS / 35% uptime / 70% critical chance: 73.625% DPS increase from critical hits
PTS / 35% uptime / 80% critical chance: 84.2% DPS increase from critical hits

Live / 50% uptime / 50% critical chance: 57.5% DPS increase from critical hits
Live / 50% uptime / 70% critical chance: 80.5% DPS increase from critical hits
Live / 50% uptime / 80% critical chance: 92% DPS increase from critical hits

PTS / 50% uptime / 50% critical chance: 53.75% DPS increase from critical hits
PTS / 50% uptime / 70% critical chance: 75.25% DPS increase from critical hits
PTS / 50% uptime / 80% critical chance: 86% DPS increase from critical hits

Interesting point: the lower your crit damage, the lower the difference between PTS and live. Some builds (mag sorc for instance) don't run minor force and don't have a passive 10% crit bonus.*

* NB: those calculations are still considered with 18% from Shadow, not 18.3%, altho the difference is insignificant.

Lashiing wrote: »

tbs is screwed
stamina builds wont be viable for trials

gonna have to go magicka with ilam/groth, bsw, moon/ia

Lol, k

So the answer to like 90% of the build dps style questions wont be "TBS-thief-shadow and the rest"?

Sounds like progress if true.

So it'll just be thief+warrior

Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

So it'll just be thief+warrior

Not the best Idea, since Hunding's give more Weaponpower than Warrior Mundus stone.

Which is a little bit crazy when you think about.
It would be nice if development did a pass through mundus stones and re-balanced them a touch at some point.