I Play a Nightblade in PvP.

Mashille · January 2017

I enjoy pvp, so I run around in open world Cyrodiil between keeps and such looking for players.

I move around in stealthed and do jump people people. This is called a gank. I don't only kill people by ganking but if it's something that will get me an upper hand in a fight then why not.

I don't stack proc sets. I run 5 Essence Thief (Technically a proc set but... Shut up), 5 Alchemist and Velidreth currently and enjoy how my build plays.

Sometimes if I jump someone they'll send me a message. Telling me something like 'You can only kill me by ganking, fight fair and I'd reck you. ' or '***. Stop ganking you ruin this game.'

Usually something that makes it seem like I've insulted their family.

Yes, I know it can be annoying to get ganked in pvp, but that is no reason to treat the player like they someone who had just killed a member of your family.

I'm sorry that I ganked you, I know it's not a fair fight but I'm not a piece of **** person in real life, I like to think I'm actually rather nice really. So I'm just asking for people to relax their opinions a bit as I know it's easy to think 'f****** cancer player kys'.

Not really sure why I wrote this but... I did.

imnotanother · January 2017

As a night blade, I soak up their tears and brew my coffee with them. Let them complain or learn to not ride in the open.

stevepdodson_ESO888 · January 2017

when did Velidreth stop being a proc set?

Mashille · January 2017

@stevepdodson_ESO888 I said I don't stack them. Running 1 isn't stacking.

stevepdodson_ESO888 · January 2017

Mashille wrote: »

@stevepdodson_ESO888 I said I don't stack them. Running 1 isn't stacking.

but you did just say Essence Thief is a proc set..therefore you do stack them, as more than one constitutes stacking

logic is as logic does

Mashille · January 2017

@stevepdodson_ESO888

What I meant was I don't stack damage sets like Viper etc.

stevepdodson_ESO888 · January 2017

Mashille wrote: »

@stevepdodson_ESO888

What I meant was I don't stack damage sets like Viper etc.

i know...just pulling your leg

besides, Essence Thief is so awkward it needs a redesign so you don't go chasing your tail to get in that rune

bowmanz607 · January 2017

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Mashille wrote: »

@stevepdodson_ESO888

What I meant was I don't stack damage sets like Viper etc.

i know...just pulling your leg

besides, Essence Thief is so awkward it needs a redesign so you don't go chasing your tail to get in that rune

ya, a change to essence theif has been asked for since the pts it was introduced in.

Sigtric · January 2017

I've gotten plenty of hate msgs on my very new gankblade with out running a single damage proc set active at all (she has veli head on but kena shoulders)

Sometimes I just ignore the message
Sometimes I wait for them to inevitably run back to where there were trying to go by taking a slightly different but not different enough route, and do it again.

Sometimes I fail the gank and get made fun of

It's all just little people who can't handle it.

All anyone who doesn't gank sees is the split second of damage and then the death recap screen, but what they don't realize is the time and skill required to plan your attack, get just the perfect positioning, waiting for the right conditions (no other enemies in sight, or occupied in a way you are likely to not be seen), etc.

On Sunday morning I spent 45 minutes at one point in Cyrodiil hunting, waiting, planning the perfect strike. 45 minutes for one kill. It was a fun stalk.

bowmanz607 · January 2017

People will always cry and whine OP. I have been getting whispers like that since I was one shot combo people back when nb were bottom of totem pole.

I get whispers from people I fight without ganking saying i need to learn to not use macros which I take as a compliment to my AC skills haha.

bottom line is people hate dieing and will find any reason to blame the person killing them and no looking in the mirror o figure out what they did wrong or what route o avoid etc

Publius_Scipio · January 2017

I'm a NB also. Not sure why you wrote this either.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · January 2017

Gank away my friend. I've been ganked a thousand times. Usually I just yell a few swear words (not at you, more into the air in panic) and try to fight. Worst I'm gonna do is throw a bucket of water you should you fail.

If you win. No big deal. I just res and ride.

Don't let it bother you. The people who send messages like those are the same ones who think a duel is somehow the same as overland Cyrodiil.

Rohamad_Ali · January 2017

You are not all those hateful things My friend . You are a happy plain potato , no butter , sour cream or chives .

Lexxypwns · January 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

I've gotten plenty of hate msgs on my very new gankblade with out running a single damage proc set active at all (she has veli head on but kena shoulders)

Sometimes I just ignore the message
Sometimes I wait for them to inevitably run back to where there were trying to go by taking a slightly different but not different enough route, and do it again.

Sometimes I fail the gank and get made fun of

It's all just little people who can't handle it.

All anyone who doesn't gank sees is the split second of damage and then the death recap screen, but what they don't realize is the time and skill required to plan your attack, get just the perfect positioning, waiting for the right conditions (no other enemies in sight, or occupied in a way you are likely to not be seen), etc.

On Sunday morning I spent 45 minutes at one point in Cyrodiil hunting, waiting, planning the perfect strike. 45 minutes for one kill. It was a fun stalk.

Can I recommend you run 1 Kra'agh instead of either kena or veli? It'll likely give you more damage

aLi3nZ · January 2017

You are the worst type of person.

Seriously though. Sad they nerfed prox det. Otherwise I would probably be playing my magika nb now and 1 hitting single players and blowing up groups with vicious death.

bulbousb16_ESO · January 2017

Mashille wrote: »

I enjoy pvp, so I run around in open world Cyrodiil between keeps and such looking for players.

I move around in stealthed and do jump people people. This is called a gank. I don't only kill people by ganking but if it's something that will get me an upper hand in a fight then why not.

This is the point of the Nightblade. Don't worry about it, simple people will furrow their brows with confusion and rage.

Hand_Bacon · January 2017

On the occasion that finds me ganking on my NB, the hate messages are usually tempered by the nice well mannered people who message. Saying things like, "I knew I shouldn't have rode there" or "caught me drinking coffee on auto-run" etc.

There are those times too that I pick the wrong target and look like a bug splattered on a truck's windshield...

Sigtric · January 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

I've gotten plenty of hate msgs on my very new gankblade with out running a single damage proc set active at all (she has veli head on but kena shoulders)

Sometimes I just ignore the message
Sometimes I wait for them to inevitably run back to where there were trying to go by taking a slightly different but not different enough route, and do it again.

Sometimes I fail the gank and get made fun of

It's all just little people who can't handle it.

All anyone who doesn't gank sees is the split second of damage and then the death recap screen, but what they don't realize is the time and skill required to plan your attack, get just the perfect positioning, waiting for the right conditions (no other enemies in sight, or occupied in a way you are likely to not be seen), etc.

On Sunday morning I spent 45 minutes at one point in Cyrodiil hunting, waiting, planning the perfect strike. 45 minutes for one kill. It was a fun stalk.

Can I recommend you run 1 Kra'agh instead of either kena or veli? It'll likely give you more damage

I've thought about trying this. I've got a bunch of kragh hats hanging out, and my kena shoulder is going to be swapped out for morag tong 5pc with jewelry and weapons, in addition to the 5piece I already have on body. I am still building the character as it's only recently level 50

The_Duke · January 2017

Im a nightblade. Ive never ganked and I never will. Not my playsyle. Ive always played bruiser builds since console launch. Any body who fails to gank me is pretty much dead so props to guys who can pull it off.

disintegr8 · January 2017

I am one of the ganker haters, mainly because I am a weakling and am not good enough to fight back.

I understand the gank can be a valid battle tactic, maybe to stop support from reaching an objective your alliance is trying to take. The times I dislike it is if I am travelling somewhere, maybe for a quest, a treasure map, or a skyshard, and I get ganked because it it easy AP.

To mythically quote an old Australian 'ganker': "Such is life".

Tryxus · January 2017

The most annoying class usually gets the most hate.

Even when I'm not ganking on my main or my sap tank, there's usually at least 1 player who feels the need to grief.

Just don't let it get to you. If you've beaten him, it means you were the better player. And if he griefs, you're also the better person

The_Duke · January 2017

Tryxus wrote: »

The most annoying class usually gets the most hate.

Even when I'm not ganking on my main or my sap tank, there's usually at least 1 player who feels the need to grief.

Just don't let it get to you. If you've beaten him, it means you were the better player. And if he griefs, you're also the better person

I wouldnt go so far as to say a ganker is a better player. With the viper/veli proc combo its pretty easy to pull a successful gank off. If gankers were better players they wouldn't fall over like a house of cards when they can't pull the gank off. Glass canons or not.

Tryxus · January 2017

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The most annoying class usually gets the most hate.

Even when I'm not ganking on my main or my sap tank, there's usually at least 1 player who feels the need to grief.

Just don't let it get to you. If you've beaten him, it means you were the better player. And if he griefs, you're also the better person

I wouldnt go so far as to say a ganker is a better player. With the viper/veli proc combo its pretty easy to pull a successful gank off. If gankers were better players they wouldn't fall over like a house of cards when they can't pull the gank off. Glass canons or not.

Thank you for confirming what I just said: ganker succeeds and wins then he's been the better player, failed the gank and dies instead of retreating then he's not

kevlarto_ESO · January 2017

I usually get hate tells from the night blades complaining about getting killed, and how tera bad I am for killing them with my night blade, fun stuff

The_Duke · January 2017

Tryxus wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The most annoying class usually gets the most hate.

Even when I'm not ganking on my main or my sap tank, there's usually at least 1 player who feels the need to grief.

Just don't let it get to you. If you've beaten him, it means you were the better player. And if he griefs, you're also the better person

I wouldnt go so far as to say a ganker is a better player. With the viper/veli proc combo its pretty easy to pull a successful gank off. If gankers were better players they wouldn't fall over like a house of cards when they can't pull the gank off. Glass canons or not.

Thank you for confirming what I just said: ganker succeeds and wins then he's been the better player, failed the gank and dies instead of retreating then he's not

Killing someone from stealth makes them a good ganker but not necessarily a better player. Its a one dimensional skill set. Kill unexpecting people and run like a coward if it fails. Open battle is the true test of skill. Resource management, cc management, play and counter play are marks of a skilled player. Not who can hit 2 buttons and kill an unknowing victim.

LrdRahvin · January 2017

Mashille wrote: »

I Play a Nightblade in PvP.

How nice! I'm very happy for you.

Mashille wrote: »

Not really sure why I wrote this

Neither am I

Tryxus · January 2017

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The most annoying class usually gets the most hate.

Even when I'm not ganking on my main or my sap tank, there's usually at least 1 player who feels the need to grief.

Just don't let it get to you. If you've beaten him, it means you were the better player. And if he griefs, you're also the better person

I wouldnt go so far as to say a ganker is a better player. With the viper/veli proc combo its pretty easy to pull a successful gank off. If gankers were better players they wouldn't fall over like a house of cards when they can't pull the gank off. Glass canons or not.

Thank you for confirming what I just said: ganker succeeds and wins then he's been the better player, failed the gank and dies instead of retreating then he's not

Killing someone from stealth makes them a good ganker but not necessarily a better player. Its a one dimensional skill set. Kill unexpecting people and run like a coward if it fails. Open battle is the true test of skill. Resource management, cc management, play and counter play are marks of a skilled player. Not who can hit 2 buttons and kill an unknowing victim.

Like you said: ganking is it's own skill (picking out the right target, catching him off guard, kill, retreat without dying) but so is reacting to the gank. A good player would know what to do and how to react if someone attacks him from stealth, or even prepare his gear/skills for such events. Ganking is it's own test of skill as well: reaction time and proper response from both players in an unannounced and fast-paced battle

Simply put: if the ganker succeeds, then it means he's outplayed and outsmarted his victim. He's still the better player then

WhoThenNow7 · January 2017

I stack proc sets on my nightblade and I don't care. Go ahead and call me a piece of crap player/cancer build/whatever. I have other characters to stand toe to toe with other people. But I made my stam nightblade purely for open world gank bursting. I'm running Velidreth, viper, and night mothers gaze..

bowmanz607 · January 2017

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The most annoying class usually gets the most hate.

Even when I'm not ganking on my main or my sap tank, there's usually at least 1 player who feels the need to grief.

Just don't let it get to you. If you've beaten him, it means you were the better player. And if he griefs, you're also the better person

I wouldnt go so far as to say a ganker is a better player. With the viper/veli proc combo its pretty easy to pull a successful gank off. If gankers were better players they wouldn't fall over like a house of cards when they can't pull the gank off. Glass canons or not.

Thank you for confirming what I just said: ganker succeeds and wins then he's been the better player, failed the gank and dies instead of retreating then he's not

Killing someone from stealth makes them a good ganker but not necessarily a better player. Its a one dimensional skill set. Kill unexpecting people and run like a coward if it fails. Open battle is the true test of skill. Resource management, cc management, play and counter play are marks of a skilled player. Not who can hit 2 buttons and kill an unknowing victim.

Haha have we been playing the same game???

Resource managment??? What resource managment?

CC management??? You mean unbreakable cc, or perhaps the broken double stun, or maybe you mean the lack of soft cc cool down.

Counterplay? What is the counter play to eye of the storm or proc on proc on proc? What is the counter play for these troll builds that don't fall to 20 people hammering away? Counterclaim to soul assualt?

Ya sorry but as the game currently stands, open world is about hitting 2 buttons and waiting for procs or eye of storm to be up. Doesn't really take skill.

In fact, a true ganker running around truly solo ganking groups is quite skillful. What is not skillful about ganking is 6 people waiting in stealth to gank one or two guys.

The_Duke · January 2017

Tryxus wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The most annoying class usually gets the most hate.

Even when I'm not ganking on my main or my sap tank, there's usually at least 1 player who feels the need to grief.

Just don't let it get to you. If you've beaten him, it means you were the better player. And if he griefs, you're also the better person

I wouldnt go so far as to say a ganker is a better player. With the viper/veli proc combo its pretty easy to pull a successful gank off. If gankers were better players they wouldn't fall over like a house of cards when they can't pull the gank off. Glass canons or not.

Thank you for confirming what I just said: ganker succeeds and wins then he's been the better player, failed the gank and dies instead of retreating then he's not

Killing someone from stealth makes them a good ganker but not necessarily a better player. Its a one dimensional skill set. Kill unexpecting people and run like a coward if it fails. Open battle is the true test of skill. Resource management, cc management, play and counter play are marks of a skilled player. Not who can hit 2 buttons and kill an unknowing victim.

Like you said: ganking is it's own skill (picking out the right target, catching him off guard, kill, retreat without dying) but so is reacting to the gank. A good player would know what to do and how to react if someone attacks him from stealth, or even prepare his gear/skills for such events. Ganking is it's own test of skill as well: reaction time and proper response from both players in an unannounced and fast-paced battle

Simply put: if the ganker succeeds, then it means he's outplayed and outsmarted his victim. He's still the better player then

Fair enough. All your points were well argued. Cheers!

The_Duke · January 2017

bowmanz607 wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The most annoying class usually gets the most hate.

Even when I'm not ganking on my main or my sap tank, there's usually at least 1 player who feels the need to grief.

Just don't let it get to you. If you've beaten him, it means you were the better player. And if he griefs, you're also the better person

I wouldnt go so far as to say a ganker is a better player. With the viper/veli proc combo its pretty easy to pull a successful gank off. If gankers were better players they wouldn't fall over like a house of cards when they can't pull the gank off. Glass canons or not.

Thank you for confirming what I just said: ganker succeeds and wins then he's been the better player, failed the gank and dies instead of retreating then he's not

Killing someone from stealth makes them a good ganker but not necessarily a better player. Its a one dimensional skill set. Kill unexpecting people and run like a coward if it fails. Open battle is the true test of skill. Resource management, cc management, play and counter play are marks of a skilled player. Not who can hit 2 buttons and kill an unknowing victim.

Haha have we been playing the same game???

Resource managment??? What resource managment?

CC management??? You mean unbreakable cc, or perhaps the broken double stun, or maybe you mean the lack of soft cc cool down.

Counterplay? What is the counter play to eye of the storm or proc on proc on proc? What is the counter play for these troll builds that don't fall to 20 people hammering away? Counterclaim to soul assualt?

Ya sorry but as the game currently stands, open world is about hitting 2 buttons and waiting for procs or eye of storm to be up. Doesn't really take skill.

In fact, a true ganker running around truly solo ganking groups is quite skillful. What is not skillful about ganking is 6 people waiting in stealth to gank one or two guys.

Who said anything about Eye of the storm?

I run solo, avoid zergs and try to engage stragglers. Much like a ganker, only difference is I run a bruiser build. I can kill quickly but if I run into another tank build then the real battle begins. I had a 5 minute at least battle with a Dk stam tank last night. It was epic and the kind of gameplay I love.

Resource management is key if the fight lasts longer than 5 secondsl lol. So is knowing when to take a hit and when to let a cc run its course instead of breaking right away. There is still skilled fights in this game. You just have to find them.