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Should crown store bought manors count for the title?
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RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Othernordsavage wrote: »It is a form of pay to win. Achievements and titles should not be bought.
Why is a stupid title pay to win? it is not like these do anything ingame. Hell even master fisherman the rarest title doesn't do a thing for you.PS4 NA
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RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherI don't give a damn either way seeing the same set titles every time is so boring I don't notice them anymore. If they had a Monster Hunter style title system where achievements unlocked keywords and you can mix and match them I may pay attention.PS4 NA
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Vipstaakki✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoNope.
Not until i can buy the emperor title from the crownstore as well without actually putting in any effort to PvP8 -
Mrs_Malaka✭✭✭✭nordsavage wrote: »
The ability to acquire in game gold in large quantities takes time and effort even skill at times. Some kid with mommies credit card should not be able to buy his way in.
^This is so funny xD
Silly nord, I use my HUSBAND'S credit card!
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Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesVipstaakki wrote: »Nope.
Not until i can buy the emperor title from the crownstore as well without actually putting in any effort to PvP
Buying a house and getting emperor are on 2 totally different levels. Not sure if you're serious or not.... if so, that's 1 hell of a shallow arguement.Edited by Unsent.Soul on January 7, 2017 5:17AM6 -
phairdon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtherOf little concern to me. There is nothing p2w about getting the title. No one is winning anything. Just my opinion of course.Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)3 -
Betheny✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesYes of course. The achievement is just owning the property/properties, it's not an achievement for playing the economy or gold hoarding or anything.
I don't use titles anyway.Edited by Betheny on January 7, 2017 7:42AM2 -
Sigma957✭✭✭✭✭YesI don't have 10 mill gold to spend on the manors even though I have been here from the start but I do have play money to buy the manor if needed.2 -
Vipstaakki✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoUnsent.Soul wrote: »Vipstaakki wrote: »Nope.
Not until i can buy the emperor title from the crownstore as well without actually putting in any effort to PvP
Buying a house and getting emperor are on 2 totally different levels. Not sure if you're serious or not.... if so, that's 1 hell of a shallow arguement.
Not really.
If you can buy your way to getting the achievement that comes from completing all the PvE quests
Why can't i buy my way to getting the achievement that comes from doing a lot of PvP?
Think about it, it is not that different.
Anyway if you buy your way to an achievement you haven't really earned it with your own hard work.
A slap to the face for those who actually put in the effort to get it. I'm sure you would be delighted to see a character wearing the emperor title who has never set their foot in Cyrodiil.
I know i would be resentful to see some PvP scrubs with the title when they haven't even nearly done all the PvE content available. They don't really deserve the hero title.Edited by Vipstaakki on January 7, 2017 9:40AM2 -
Bryanonymous✭✭✭✭✭YesThe alternative would be redundant. Pay real money only to have to pay currency in game to get a title for something you already own. I personally don't like that they are selling prestige that some of us earned in the game for cash, but it is what it is. Time to move on.
Should the title unlock before the hero achievement? No, but if they already made it do that, they won't change it.Edited by Bryanonymous on January 7, 2017 9:52AM0 -
pattyLtd✭✭✭✭✭YesI conisder the housing related titles more like role playing- instead of oerformance achievements.
Either way none of the titles really matter i dont even know which one i have active currently most likely none.
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Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesOther cosmetic items, including exclusive crown store motifs, have achievements attached. Why would this be different?
I'll be buying my houses with in-game gold ... but not allowing crown-bought houses (to count towards the title) would go against the grain of what's been done in the past.0 -
nordsavage✭✭✭✭✭Nolordrichter wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »Why wouldn't it? Either way you earned it. Real life money or in game currency, and real life money is supporting the game makers more than in game coin.
Should not title/achievements show our ingame results and not be pay to win?
You're not winning anything by having a stupid title below your name
yeah you are, your winning the right to not be made fun of by people in common chat, and zone chat, and guild chat just because you were not able to earn the gold for that home.
some people cant be here all the time because of real life jobs.
we have a right to not have embarrassing titles and shamed publicly for lack of money.
People wouldn't make fun of you if you didn't have the title because they have no way of knowing.. there will be many with the title that don't actually set it to active.. and I've never known people to be made fun of for lacking titles. You guys are silly.
yeah they would, because people demand to see your titles all the time.
especially in groups for dungeons.
Weird I do dungeons every single day and have never had to link a title to be accepted.. I'm sure your housing title will help you with finding dungeon groups.. xD
You care way to much even though you say you don't. Look how you are chewing on this thread. Denial impossible. I have more than 7000 hours plus beta, 22kish achievement score and run the hardest content successfully. No matter what you are some low rate pug to me.
So you say.... show us your title and pet!
Which ones I have almost all earned titles outside of PvP on several alts.Edited by nordsavage on January 7, 2017 11:25AMI didn't choose tank life, tank life chose me.0 -
JWKe✭✭✭✭NoSeems to be a pay for title type thing to me. I'd rather have the achievement be like "Have your house filled to max player capacity" then award the title based on which manor this occurs in.0 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭OtherDoesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't pay attention to the titles other players display and if I do, they're forgotten about 2 seconds later. There's a lot wrong with this game and who gets what title via the CS or in-game isn't one of them.1 -
YesI know Im dreaming but...waiting for a new mmo, w/o lame ass coin shops.0 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭OtherIt will prevent elitism and reasons for pride. So yes, it will be good.
That's really all everything boils down to. Titles, skins, weapons etc. Most people who shout "I did it the hard way, so everyone should do it the hard way" only do so because they enjoy looking down their noses at others. When that layer of superiority is taken away from them, they then whine about casuals etc. The reality is, most people in the game don't really give a second thought to people having a specific title, skin etc or to others in general. For some reason we all think people look at us because we're focused on ourselves, yet when you think about it, those vMoL skins are ten to a penny and every second person seems to be running around with those arena weapons.
I can safely say I have never sat there in awe at anyone having a specific skin, weapon or title or remembered them 5 seconds after walking away. I simply don't care, just like they don't care what I have on display or what I have achieved in-game. The only only place we're regarded as being important or better is in our own heads. It's the same with all those achievements and trophies on console, no one other than those who obtained them give a jot what they have.Edited by Prof_Bawbag on January 7, 2017 3:25PM6 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoI believe that housing titles should be limited to those who purchase the manors with gold.
The crown store shouldn't be connected to any in-game title, whatever it may be.
Only if the player has managed to accumulate the necessary amount of gold, unlock the required achievements and buy the manor/s, he/she may be able to unlock the title/s.
Is it hard to get 11 million gold ?
For most players it is almost impossible, so obviously saving this amount of gold is an achievement of itself.
The thought of players just skipping the all process and buying the manors from the crown store and getting the titles on a silver plate while others grinded for the necessary gold for a long time is unthinkable.
I really don't like the direction this game is taking... titles that can be bought by real life money.
What's next ? 10k crowns for emperor achievement since players didn't have the time and/or skill to grind for AP ?
@ZOS_GinaBruno Please consider removing the option to unlock the following titles when purchasing the homes with crowns: Lord or Lady, Clan Father or Clan Mother, Councilor, Count or Countess.
If this is not possible, kindly consider removing the crown store purchase option to buy the 3 manors(Ebonheart Chateau, Daggerfall Overlook, Serenity Falls Estate).
The associated titles should be limited to those who buy the manors with gold.
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✭✭✭✭✭YesRAGUNAnoOne wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »It is a form of pay to win. Achievements and titles should not be bought.
Why is a stupid title pay to win? it is not like these do anything ingame. Hell even master fisherman the rarest title doesn't do a thing for you.
Hey, I have the Master Angler title and bring that up with everyone I meet. Since the vast majority don't play ESO, they just stare at me."Get off my lawn!"5 -
Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesHow is this pay to win any more than, say, subbing? You get extra gold & xp, so....
And it's just a [snip] silly title. Really don't care if you have bought the estates via in-game gold or rl cash. The title does absolutely nothing apart from being a title.
And yes, wonderful for you if you have got the kwazillion or whatever amount of gold to buy in game. Fabulous. Do you know what it would mean to me if that was the only way to buy these estates & get the title? That those with the title obviously have very little life offline.....
Edited by ZOS_KatP on February 7, 2018 8:41PM2 -
lillybit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesThe title's for owning all the houses and once you own them it's account wide so there would be no way of getting it later if you don't let people have it with crown store purchases too.
And really, it's a bit like saying if you complete DSA using a crown store food/drink/soul gem, you can't have the title because you paid for it, or you used an CS XP scroll so you can't have any title because you wouldn't have been a high enough level to complete the content without it.
What makes it so much better to own a house through playing a game for hundreds of hours than by going out and doing actual real work to earn the money to get them, anyway? Personally if I decide to buy them (and I doubt I will, especially if they're as expensive as people are expecting), that'll mean about two full days at work and you're saying this is the easy option? You're telling me I can't have a stupid title that will give me no advantages in game because I have to go out and earn a living and don't play games all day to raise the 14m gold I'd need?
[Edit] Grumpy person who doesn't want to go back to work in the morning!Edited by lillybit on January 7, 2017 6:49PMPS4 EU4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭YesAlthough I can't say that I like that you can obtain a title through the store, I don't see another way out. As others said already, if manors bought through the store didn't grant the titles, that would block an account from having these titles forever, unless you were allowed to buy the same house twice. I can't agree with that.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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✭✭YesWell what if they bought the house with Crowns and decided later they wanted the title? Don't hate on the cash cows, they're what keep this game running. They wouldn't be needed if ZOS made better choices, but don't hate on them okay?"Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
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✭✭✭✭I definitely see your concern OP. My input would be biased though - a 100% subscription revenue model is the only one I support. Everything else is predatory and exploitative.0 -
Hawco10✭✭✭✭YesI find it amazing that numerous pages and a poll are conducted about a title. I do not care about titles. I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one. With that said, I voted yes because if some guy wants to buy a house with his own money, then go right ahead. And if they are crazy enough to buy all of them for a title, then how's that playing to win or some of the other nonsene?4
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✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »Why wouldn't it? Either way you earned it. Real life money or in game currency, and real life money is supporting the game makers more than in game coin.
Should not title/achievements show our ingame results and not be pay to win?
You're not winning anything by having a stupid title below your name
yeah you are, your winning the right to not be made fun of by people in common chat, and zone chat, and guild chat just because you were not able to earn the gold for that home.
some people cant be here all the time because of real life jobs.
we have a right to not have embarrassing titles and shamed publicly for lack of money.
and "yeah they do ask"
because people demand to see your titles all the time.
especially in groups for dungeons.
I seriously doubt you're going to see anyone demanding to see those titles in a dungeon. Stormproofed, okay, I get. It's stupid, but I do understand. But, being having Councilor doesn't prove anything. Honestly, if you're dealing with a player who wants to see that, you're better off calling them an idiot in the most colorful fashion that appeals to you, and leaving group. No shame indicated.1
