Will Destro Ult still be the best ultimate in Update 13?

RadioheadSh0t · January 2017

No, but it will be good

I don't see the problem with the Destro ult.

It's strong, but is Incap not strong? Is Dawnbreaker not strong? Is Negate not the best group ultimate?

It's better for group play than solo play, but it still works with solo play. When I'm playing solo, I still use Dawnbreaker a lot of the time despite the change in CP scaling.

Can it be devastating in a group when used in coordination with a negates? Yes, but shouldn't we have at least one ultimate that performs that function? How else can smaller groups break up zergs with the AOE cap change without a good AOE ultimate?

So, in a group Negate will still be stronger, and solo there are plenty of other better ultimates. ZOS usually overreacts to forum outrage, so they might nerf Destro Ult into the ground when it doesn't really need to be.

Minalan · January 2017

No, but it will be good

I don't think the nerf will matter. You get coordinated zergs running five of these at once, and you're still just as dead.

Solo bombers will be more effective if anything.

Satiar · January 2017

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

I don't see the problem with the Destro ult.

It's strong, but is Incap not strong? Is Dawnbreaker not strong? Is Negate not the best group ultimate?

It's better for group play than solo play, but it still works with solo play. When I'm playing solo, I still use Dawnbreaker a lot of the time despite the change in CP scaling.

Can it be devastating in a group when used in coordination with a negates? Yes, but shouldn't we have at least one ultimate that performs that function? How else can smaller groups break up zergs with the AOE cap change without a good AOE ultimate?

So, in a group Negate will still be stronger, and solo there are plenty of other better ultimates. ZOS usually overreacts to forum outrage, so they might nerf Destro Ult into the ground when it doesn't really need to be.

Im critting people 13k a tick. Should not be doable with a huge, ticking aoe ult.

RadioheadSh0t · January 2017

No, but it will be good

Satiar wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

I don't see the problem with the Destro ult.

It's strong, but is Incap not strong? Is Dawnbreaker not strong? Is Negate not the best group ultimate?

It's better for group play than solo play, but it still works with solo play. When I'm playing solo, I still use Dawnbreaker a lot of the time despite the change in CP scaling.

Can it be devastating in a group when used in coordination with a negates? Yes, but shouldn't we have at least one ultimate that performs that function? How else can smaller groups break up zergs with the AOE cap change without a good AOE ultimate?

So, in a group Negate will still be stronger, and solo there are plenty of other better ultimates. ZOS usually overreacts to forum outrage, so they might nerf Destro Ult into the ground when it doesn't really need to be.

Im critting people 13k a tick. Should not be doable with a huge, ticking aoe ult.

And people can hit for 30k with an Overload Light Attack.

Those only hit that high on people with little-to-no impen, which are usually just sorcs whose shields have been burnt through. Their average damage is probably much lower than the anomalous numbers would suggest, with most players running impen and a lot of players running heavy or tanky builds. Not to mention that ultimate is designed to burn through groups with heavy healing, meaning that it has to be able to put out high numbers to combat the strength of group heals at the moment.

xblackroxe · January 2017

Wollust wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

It was never best to begin with.

You don't pvp do you?

Neither does he pve. That ult is *** op everywhere

Sanct16 · January 2017

Don't worry guys, the damage gets nerfed by 5%. Now it will be super balanced

Magus · January 2017

Yes, it will still be

Yep, even with 5% decrease still BiS for group play.

Ishammael · January 2017

Magus wrote: »

Yep, even with 5% decrease still BiS for group play.

On a lightning staff is -5% then +8%

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Mako1132 · January 2017

No, but it will be good

Ishammael wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

Yep, even with 5% decrease still BiS for group play.

On a lightning staff is -5% then +8%

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Yep, it's buffed. Lightning staff also procs minor vuln which is +8% more damage on the target it procs on.

Minalan · January 2017

No, but it will be good

Mako1132 wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

Yep, even with 5% decrease still BiS for group play.

On a lightning staff is -5% then +8%

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Yep, it's buffed. Lightning staff also procs minor vuln which is +8% more damage on the target it procs on.

Lightning sorc gets another 5% lightning damage on top of that.

I can't stop laughing at the people saying that ZOS knows what they're doing.

Thraben · January 2017

Yes, it will still be

Has anyone tested the new healing ritual morph, Hasty Prayer? Does it break major expedition?

For if it works like it is written, and things stay as they are on PTS, there will be only templars left in most organized groups (except one stamsorc), who spam destro ulti and proxy (great again due to changes of AoE cap). As most of them will have a frost staff, they even will be able to permablock when negated, meteored, and cornered.

Though I like a challenge, I strongly dislike the fact that noobish imitators will soon be able to perform feats only Zerg Squad and a few others were able to, just by stacking templars and 3 Skills.

KisoValley · January 2017

No, it will be useless

Got a buff with lightning staff

Lmfao...

kuro-dono · January 2017

Yes, it will still be

if negate negated all magica abilities when they doing their action i would not have anything wrong with stuff like mistforming into groups and activating destro ulti. negate does nothing there, same when you try to make sure these mistformers wont activate their destro ulti. negate wont save you there either.

Sureshawt · January 2017

Qbiken wrote: »

Best ultimate for what?? Ultimates are situational. If I want to to increase my dps on my magDK i drop standard since it boosts my ardent flame abilities, if I want to get ultimate back i use shooting star......It´s all situational.

^This.

Which makes this poll meaningless. No ultimate is the best in every situation. Now if you ask if it is the best ultimate to kill a large ball group in a short period of time that would be a situational case. This could be debated against say bats under the same situation. However, to generalize the question for all ultimates ignores the situational reality of the battlefield at any given time.

olsborg · January 2017

Yes, it will still be

Gonna be more OP then it currently is, wich is totally ridiculous.

Izaki · January 2017

Other (pls explain)

Wollust wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

It was never best to begin with.

You don't pvp do you?

I do, but I play a DW sorc. Shooting Star > Destro Ult.

laksikus · January 2017

Yes, it will still be

Ishammael wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

Yep, even with 5% decrease still BiS for group play.

On a lightning staff is -5% then +8%

L
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Actually if using static one you will have 5% nerf 8% buff and another 8% buff from vulnerability

Minalan · January 2017

No, but it will be good

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

It was never best to begin with.

You don't pvp do you?

I do, but I play a DW sorc. Shooting Star > Destro Ult.

Animation cancelled dawnbreaker > shooting star for dual wield sorc IMO. I've been wrecking people with it!

I'm hoping they buff the 2H ultimate this cycle and give stam players something to counter the destro ult. Kill the guy running the red circle of death and it stops. Instantly.

Mako1132 · January 2017

No, but it will be good

Minalan wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

It was never best to begin with.

You don't pvp do you?

I do, but I play a DW sorc. Shooting Star > Destro Ult.

Animation cancelled dawnbreaker > shooting star for dual wield sorc IMO. I've been wrecking people with it!

I'm hoping they buff the 2H ultimate this cycle and give stam players something to counter the destro ult. Kill the guy running the red circle of death and it stops. Instantly.

They should just lower the cost of it. It can be pretty *** strong, but you have ultimates just as strong for less ult so why use it? No 50 ult memes though please ZOS.

Dawnbreaker will just never be balanced. IMO Dawnbreaker cost should be increased slightly otherwise I don't know why you'd use 2H ult over it ever unless 2H ult can no longer be dodged.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · January 2017

Other (pls explain)

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Didn't know it was the best to begin with

This. The best ult is determined by the situation and the player. I stink with it, but I'll fry you with Shatter Soul almost every time.

Jaronking · January 2017

Yes, it will still be

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Didn't know it was the best to begin with

This. The best ult is determined by the situation and the player. I stink with it, but I'll fry you with Shatter Soul almost every time.

I will kill you while your trying to Soul Shatter me.Not hard did it a few times earlier.