hydrocynus wrote: »

If i understand correctly the crafters should love this. They get to put (as an example) Julianos clothing crafting station in their house and right next to it twice born star etc etc. It will make their traveling a lot less.

That is how I understood it but could be wrong.

You're not wrong. Except you need three crafting stations for each set you're using (unless you can skip one, like Clothier for a set you'd only make in heavy armor). Once they're placed they work exactly the same as a crafting station in that set's location.

This might be worth it for sets that are legitimately difficult to get to (like the IC sets), but it has limited applications outside of that.

Simple buy crowns. Every week more housing stuff gets released which you buy with crowns.

And adding to what's been said above me; my biggest disappointment with Housing is the lack of additional storage.

Not just in the Single-Player Elder Scrolls series, but in most every MMORPG that has housing, those houses serve as a nigh infinite method to store extra... stuff. You buy a house, you expect extra storage to place those items/valuables that you either want to save for later use (like crafting mats or armor/weapon sets that you may not use immediately, but may come in handy some day in the future), or that you can't bear to let go of (like various collectibles/trophies/valuables).

The fact that they would even consider adding in housing WITHOUT adding in extra storage capabilities is a vast mistake and oversight in my opinion.

Or maybe their servers can't handle the additional load of extra storage? If this is the case, if their servers are already getting hammered so hard that extra storage tied to player-instanced housing is out of the question; then there are bigger issues ZOS needs to work through before adding in any type of housing.

But I feel that someone on the Development/Planning team honestly went into those design meetings and said: "Extra storage? Why would we add that in? Every other MMORPG gives players more than enough extra storage, but we want to be different, so I don't think we should add in any extra storage capabilities at all."

The even worse thought after that, is that other developers listened to that ignorant statement and (for some reason) agreed with it...

I generally like the Housing update as it's written on the PTS notes right now. I don't agree with quite a few of their "balance" decisions hidden in with the update, but overall I like the customization and number of houses available for purchase.

But the biggest, most glaring flaw of the Housing update, is the lack of additional storage. I think, if any oversight or poor decision is going to kill the excitement of player housing, the lack of storage is that oversight/poor decision.

@ZOS_RichLambert Any thoughts on a correction to this (in my opinion) massive mistake?

Is the issue that people just want more storage space? I think this is a separate issue to housing. If people were intending to buy houses solely to upgrade their inventory space then it undermines the whole purpose of player houses as increases to bank space or riding capacity could provide the same functionality.

Besides the plethora of things mentioned you can interact with, you can also place your assistants in there and sell to them.

Brrrofski wrote: »

Wolfchild07 wrote: »

Yes, you can attune sets out in the world to the ones in your house.

So I can have say 4 smithies, 4 woodworker tables and 4 clothier tables and choose which sets I want to able to craft easily?

Yes you can

Some limits on the functionality:

A.) acquiring attunement stations, a crafting dummy, and an assortment of higher quality housing stuff will be somewhat tedious and expensive. To acquire, you need to get X amount of writ vouchers, which we don't know yet because the cost is set to 1 voucher for everything in the pts. To get a voucher, you'll need to do about 20 normal writs and spend a little money getting motif pages to increase your odds of getting a master writ. In the master writ, you will be asked to make a high quality item. For the main three, it will likely be a gold quality (8 tempers anyone?) item of a specific set and specific style. Turning that in will award you x amount of vouchers. Thus, it will cost, give or take, about 200k gold per 'functional' item.
B.) Guild parties and guild halls can totally be a thing, especially in the manors and islands. Unfortunately, the limit for manors has been set to a non-negotiable 24 players plus yourself. I say non-negotiable because Gina has already stated that the decision on caps was made for performance reasons. I'd think it'd be hard to incentive players in a guild to donate if they're not even guaranteed a space in the home. Similarly, this is a huge limit for the RPers who might want to have a bigger event. On a related note, ERPers, you might want to know, you can't interact with the beds.
C.) want a place to store your mount, have access to your expensive crown bought merchant and banker? Well even if you have a manor, the max number of collectibles you can have is 5. That means your banker, merchant, smuggler, one pet and one mount. You'll have to put something else in your stable. Maybe a plant?
D.) Dueling is something not mentioned much. I'm guessing you can do it inside. Would be nice for dueling tournaments, but I can again see how the population cap might be a problem. Only a few lots really have enough frontyard space for dueling.
E.) Another less mentioned functionality feature is the dye station. Just don't make the same mistake as I did. If it has a border, it means its colliding with a wall or some other object and you'll have to move it or you won't be able to use it.
F.) inventory management is going to be a real problem. More than it already is. Even a single apple or banana decoration is going to take up one spot. Might want to consider getting smaller homes to use as vaults for decorations and when you need something, you can just go from house 1 to house 2 to house 3 and so on until you find that one item you misplaced. /s We've all had to do the alt inventory management game at one point or another.
G.) small decorations like flowers, stones, and food ingredients are going to eat at your item limit really fast. Manors have a 600 limit with a sub. Keep this in mind when choosing between a measly candle or a lantern, a measly banana compared to a tent.

All in all, housing still has bugs at every corner. Expect that not all of them will be corrected by the time it hits live. It would be really disheartening for someone if they spent hours upon hours decorating a home only to find it shifted or returned to their inventory the next time they visit.