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Does Wrobel Hate Sorcs?

RadioheadSh0t
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Does @Wrobel hate Sorcs?

That's about the only explanation I can see for the completely 100% unneccessary curse nerf.

Streak nerfs.
Negate nerf.
Surge nerf.
Shield nerf.
A bunch of other nerfs I'm probably forgetting.
And now a nerf to curse?

I've mained sorc since beta, and dealt with nerf after nerf, but this one is especially absurd for so many reasons. Sorcs are already lagging behind in burst potential, and now their burst will be almost completely gone.

Sorcs have gotten nerf after nerf after nerf, and now they get a nerf to a skill that deals less damage after 3.5 seconds than most instant abilities deal? Unacceptable.

Remember all of those "nerf curse" threads"? Me neither. I was hoping that other classes would be balanced, and not really hoping for "buffs" per se, but I'm shocked to see Sorcs get a major nerf to one of the few useable skills they have.

Where the heck did they come up with this hair-brained idea? It's like they hear all the people joking "nerf sorc" and they actually thought they were serious

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Edited by RadioheadSh0t on January 6, 2017 1:19AM
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I think he hates all his children this patch . He's a bad parent .
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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    List of sorc instant abilities that deal adequate damage:

    1. You know there aren't any.
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  • Derra
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    If we´re being honest he just hates "complicated" mechanics.

    Now curse is nobraineasytouse.

    The next thing that will happen going by that philosophy is crystal fragments proccchance will get converted into something like:
    Casting any other magica ability has gives you a fragment shards:
    Each shard increases dmg by 7% reduces casttime by 34% and reduces cost by 18%.
    Stacks up to three times.
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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    Derra wrote: »
    If we´re being honest he just hates "complicated" mechanics.

    Now curse is nobraineasytouse.

    The next thing that will happen going by that philosophy is crystal fragments proccchance will get converted into something like:
    Casting any other magica ability has gives you a fragment shards:
    Each shard increases dmg by 7% reduces casttime by 34% and reduces cost by 18%.
    Stacks up to three times.

    Don't give them any ideas!!!
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  • xXSilverDragonXx
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    I think the hate is for all mag.
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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    I think the hate is for all mag.

    I was hoping they would at least close the Stamina-Magicka divide a little bit, but there's nothing here that does it. If they do follow up Housing with Battlegrounds, as many people assume based on previous statements, it will be dominated by Stamina classes with healers and maybe a Sorc just solely for Negate.
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  • SublimeSparo
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    I think the hate is for all mag.

    I was hoping they would at least close the Stamina-Magicka divide a little bit, but there's nothing here that does it. If they do follow up Housing with Battlegrounds, as many people assume based on previous statements, it will be dominated by Stamina classes with healers and maybe a Sorc just solely for Negate.

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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    I think the hate is for all mag.

    I was hoping they would at least close the Stamina-Magicka divide a little bit, but there's nothing here that does it. If they do follow up Housing with Battlegrounds, as many people assume based on previous statements, it will be dominated by Stamina classes with healers and maybe a Sorc just solely for Negate.

    Yea a stamsorc for negate

    Yup, you're right.

    So, basically, GFY Magicka.
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  • Paraflex
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    Balance sorcs are in a good spot if you think they are weak your not a good player although I agree this most recent change probably isn't needed.

    Sorcs will survive and adapt well the good ones atleast
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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    Paraflex wrote: »
    Balance sorcs are in a good spot if you think they are weak your not a good player although I agree this most recent change probably isn't needed.

    Sorcs will survive and adapt well the good ones atleast

    I consider myself one of the "good ones." Not trying to say I'm the best Sorc in the world, because my playtime is down a lot with the most recent Meta, but I'm very good 1v1 and 1vX. I also protest the current Proc meta by usually running a proc-less build with no IG or Ilambris, despite their place in the current sorc meta, and performing at a high level demonstrating class-mastery. Sure, I'll slot another ability and still play, but it will be less effective than the current state of sorcs, which has been going down significantly over time. The Velocious Curse nerf is not only unnecessary, it's taking away one of the only primary damage sources from a class that has minimal innate direct damage to start with.

    I have other classes leveled that I could jump onto and perform at a much higher level, and who is to say I haven't from time-to-time, but I still play Magicka Sorc because it feels like a challenge moreso than Stamblade for instance, especially when I don't play with Procs. So, the class I played "for a challenge," is now getting a major nerf to a core piece of their rotation in the 1v1 and 1vX situations. Sorc has been my main since beta, although I switched between Hybrid and Magicka sorc (along with Magicka DK) in the soft-caps era, so I enjoy playing it more than others, but after all the previous nerfs, nerfing curse just seems like the nail-in-the-coffin on what was once a great class to play.

    There are some balance changes that I saw the reason for but disagreed with the method, others that I felt went to far, but the Curse nerf is the first one that really feels truly unnecessary.
    Edited by RadioheadSh0t on January 6, 2017 2:07AM
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  • Konstant_Tel_Necris
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    Well actually better if they change Daedric Prey into Haunting Curse since it rarely used so need something additional to it functional to become interesting again.
    But Wrobel also buff Conversion and improve stam sorc life overall, so not all changes was nerfs only?
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  • Valen_Byte
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    Wroble hates mag classes
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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    Yes, Stam Sorc is improved, no one is denying that. But this is a conversation about Velocious Curse.

    Yes, Conversion is good, I could run without it. Running without the current Curse would kill my rotation and ability to kill players in a 1v1 and 1vX situation. Sure, Sorcs are GREAT in group with Negate and Eye of the Storm, but killing Curse is killing Solo Sorcerers, which seems like killing the definition of the class. It's like being a glass cannon with glass cannonballs.
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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    Wroble hates mag classes

    I'd take the 38% (or whatever) cost increase that Swallow Soul got over what they've done to Curse.
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  • Dracane
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    He hates us.
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  • Ankael07
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    I urge every sorcerer out there to not forget the other issues we have if curse nerf gets reverted. Just in case theyre trying to make us forget other issues and pretend to fix things.
    Edited by Ankael07 on January 6, 2017 1:41AM
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  • Minalan
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    I urge every sorcerer out there to not forget the other issues we have if curse nerf gets reverted.

    I'd be satisfied if they just fixed that and did nothing else at this point.
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  • STEVIL
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    its the end of the world as we know it and i feel fine....

    Sing-a-long ESO non-playtest version.

    Frank N. Furter its all over!

    The Absolutist Paradox Tango:
    Its just a jump to the left (Read several posts from Wrobel has hated mag and sorc since day one and setting out to kill every time threads.)
    And then a step to the right (Read posts from thread about how Stamina builds should just quit due to magica gettingbhuffed and already dominating trials and vmsa)
    put your hands on your hips (Read several posts to the theme of how stamplars are still screwed and the radiant nerf too much)
    and bring your knees in tight (Read several posts from threads about how night blades are nowhere in end game pve type content play. just useless.)
    lets do the Tango again (repeat process)

    if Wrobel has hated magsorc since the get go and been hellbent on killing them or gimping them to obscurity, he really has failed in that endeavor.

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  • RoyJade
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    This change is logic : sorc are intended to have no spammable dps abilities, and you use curse nearly each 4 second ! It's far too much !


    … yeah, it seem that magisorc itself have nearly no love. Sets and generic skills got some love, but no sorc themselves.
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