What's wrong with my stamsorc?

darthsithis · January 2017

That's so freaking cool you can do that on pc o had no idea...

Gorilla · January 2017

Any preferences on weapon enchants?

Oreyn_Bearclaw · January 2017

Gorilla wrote: »

Any preferences on weapon enchants?

@Gorilla
Your bow should be VMA if possible, so no enchant there. As for the DW, you definitely want one weapon power enchant. The other is more debatable, but I think most people go Poison (I do, and I believe that's what Streak uses). You could also go with something like a crusher enchant or even a stamina return enchant.

darthsithis wrote: »

That's so freaking cool you can do that on pc o had no idea...

@darthsithis
Yeah. There are several addons that do it, but I believe Alpha Gear is the bust. You can bind entire loadouts or just armor or just skills to one key. It swaps really fast. As eluded to, you can definitely do it in VMA but you gotta be quick about it. In trials, I always change my skills between trash and bosses.

Kutsuu · January 2017

Yeah swaps with Alphagear can be pretty laggy if you're changing out your entire armor set, but if you are only swapping skill bars it's super fast, almost instant, and you can bind different setups to hotkeys. I swap between my boss DPS setup and my trash DPS setup with the same hotkey, just a shift modifier for one set.

DRXHarbinger · January 2017

code65536 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Keep at it and get stuck in. Drop 2pc VO for stormfist. Just keep hurricane and surge up and you can face tank anything in malestrom. It's a completely different playstyle to magika and just takes a little while to adjust to it.

lolwut? That 5p VO bonus is the last thing the OP should drop.

Finally, remember that vMA is about burst DPS, not sustained DPS. So whoever posted a trials DPS rotation earlier in the thread is missing the point.

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Cut this down to highlight this.....

5pc VO is all about sustain not burst, it's 100% useless against boss fights, no kill XP (btw OP you need Kill XP for it to work, try Kvatch Arena with the 5pc and see how it doesn't work) stick with the 2pc stormfist and any stamsorc will be at 1180 recovery, that's more than enough for VMA whilst maintaining "burst" something that 5pc VO does not give at all...

Oreyn_Bearclaw · January 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Keep at it and get stuck in. Drop 2pc VO for stormfist. Just keep hurricane and surge up and you can face tank anything in malestrom. It's a completely different playstyle to magika and just takes a little while to adjust to it.

lolwut? That 5p VO bonus is the last thing the OP should drop.

Finally, remember that vMA is about burst DPS, not sustained DPS. So whoever posted a trials DPS rotation earlier in the thread is missing the point.

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Cut this down to highlight this.....

5pc VO is all about sustain not burst, it's 100% useless against boss fights, no kill XP (btw OP you need Kill XP for it to work, try Kvatch Arena with the 5pc and see how it doesn't work) stick with the 2pc stormfist and any stamsorc will be at 1180 recovery, that's more than enough for VMA whilst maintaining "burst" something that 5pc VO does not give at all...

I think in a perfect world, you might drop the 5 piece of VO and even go VMA weapons on some of the bosses with a little longer burn phases. The reality though is the bosses arent what makes this arena tough once you figure them out. The 5 piece of VO is amazaballs throughout the rest of the arena for sustain and mobility. It is certainly the reason that stamina classes went from worst to first in there.

Considering that someone with 5 VO and no VMA weapons can burn all the bosses past mechanics anyway, I dont think its worth the bother to change them for a fight or 2.

Kutsuu · January 2017

I'd never give up the sustain and mobility from 5x VO during add rounds and many of the boss fights. Especially not just to run 2x VMA daggers.

IMO Velidreth outperforms stormfist throughout most of VMA too. Again, other than stationary boss fights.

I would agree that 3x VO + stormfist + 2x vMA 1hers would be strongest on boss burns. Just think it would slow you down everywhere else.

DRXHarbinger · January 2017

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Keep at it and get stuck in. Drop 2pc VO for stormfist. Just keep hurricane and surge up and you can face tank anything in malestrom. It's a completely different playstyle to magika and just takes a little while to adjust to it.

lolwut? That 5p VO bonus is the last thing the OP should drop.

Finally, remember that vMA is about burst DPS, not sustained DPS. So whoever posted a trials DPS rotation earlier in the thread is missing the point.

.

Cut this down to highlight this.....

5pc VO is all about sustain not burst, it's 100% useless against boss fights, no kill XP (btw OP you need Kill XP for it to work, try Kvatch Arena with the 5pc and see how it doesn't work) stick with the 2pc stormfist and any stamsorc will be at 1180 recovery, that's more than enough for VMA whilst maintaining "burst" something that 5pc VO does not give at all...

I think in a perfect world, you might drop the 5 piece of VO and even go VMA weapons on some of the bosses with a little longer burn phases. The reality though is the bosses arent what makes this arena tough once you figure them out. The 5 piece of VO is amazaballs throughout the rest of the arena for sustain and mobility. It is certainly the reason that stamina classes went from worst to first in there.

Considering that someone with 5 VO and no VMA weapons can burn all the bosses past mechanics anyway, I dont think its worth the bother to change them for a fight or 2.

This isn't a troll when I say this...but if you really want to burn all trash and never die and sustain this is how I flawlessed my stamblade, far harder to use than a stam sorc.

Vma Maul + DW (screw bow)

3pc VO. 3pc agility 4x shock Master (just purely because the 4 stats are good) Stam+damage+damage. Plenty of others to chose from.

The rotation.

Relentless+rally+Crit rush+sup attack+onslaught...it will kill every add inc argonian archers and guess what.. that killing blow...full ulti. Turn around and repeat on the next add...30% extra stam regen is up the whole time.

Boss fight remained the same. Took the same amount of time as per the meta builds but the add rounds were stupid fast. Boss fights were slightly longer. I guess you could switch out if you were fast enough.

I'm not joking it works stupidly well.

darthsithis · January 2017

^ that sounds really interesting...

darthsithis · January 2017

So I'm going 5 VO and then 5 night mothers- deciding between velidreth and skoria.

Gotta muster up the will to pay for a race change, I'm so not farm in for undaunted, vigor, dawn breaker, and leveling all my skills to the highest rank...unless you think it's doable without all the bells and whistles.

I have flawless now on the magsorc, so I know the mechanics, just gotta learn to play stam, and I think it'll help having maxed skill trees (my dw and 2h are 50 even).

So last question, redguard or khajiit?

DRXHarbinger · January 2017

darthsithis wrote: »

So I'm going 5 VO and then 5 night mothers- deciding between velidreth and skoria.

Gotta muster up the will to pay for a race change, I'm so not farm in for undaunted, vigor, dawn breaker, and leveling all my skills to the highest rank...unless you think it's doable without all the bells and whistles.

I have flawless now on the magsorc, so I know the mechanics, just gotta learn to play stam, and I think it'll help having maxed skill trees (my dw and 2h are 50 even).

So last question, redguard or khajiit?

Redguard. No compromise.

darthsithis · January 2017

Ok got it. Ppl were trying to tell me khajiit but that didn't sound right at all. Tyvm

Oreyn_Bearclaw · January 2017

darthsithis wrote: »

Ok got it. Ppl were trying to tell me khajiit but that didn't sound right at all. Tyvm

Khajiit is better DPS in a perfect raid, but redguard is better in VMA (and pretty much everywhere else) for the sustain.

Also worth mentioning that crit is getting nerfed next patch. I haven't seen data to confirm, but it's possible that khajiit will no longer be in first anymore.

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Keep at it and get stuck in. Drop 2pc VO for stormfist. Just keep hurricane and surge up and you can face tank anything in malestrom. It's a completely different playstyle to magika and just takes a little while to adjust to it.

lolwut? That 5p VO bonus is the last thing the OP should drop.

Finally, remember that vMA is about burst DPS, not sustained DPS. So whoever posted a trials DPS rotation earlier in the thread is missing the point.

.

Cut this down to highlight this.....

5pc VO is all about sustain not burst, it's 100% useless against boss fights, no kill XP (btw OP you need Kill XP for it to work, try Kvatch Arena with the 5pc and see how it doesn't work) stick with the 2pc stormfist and any stamsorc will be at 1180 recovery, that's more than enough for VMA whilst maintaining "burst" something that 5pc VO does not give at all...

I think in a perfect world, you might drop the 5 piece of VO and even go VMA weapons on some of the bosses with a little longer burn phases. The reality though is the bosses arent what makes this arena tough once you figure them out. The 5 piece of VO is amazaballs throughout the rest of the arena for sustain and mobility. It is certainly the reason that stamina classes went from worst to first in there.

Considering that someone with 5 VO and no VMA weapons can burn all the bosses past mechanics anyway, I dont think its worth the bother to change them for a fight or 2.

This isn't a troll when I say this...but if you really want to burn all trash and never die and sustain this is how I flawlessed my stamblade, far harder to use than a stam sorc.

Vma Maul + DW (screw bow)

3pc VO. 3pc agility 4x shock Master (just purely because the 4 stats are good) Stam+damage+damage. Plenty of others to chose from.

The rotation.

Relentless+rally+Crit rush+sup attack+onslaught...it will kill every add inc argonian archers and guess what.. that killing blow...full ulti. Turn around and repeat on the next add...30% extra stam regen is up the whole time.

Boss fight remained the same. Took the same amount of time as per the meta builds but the add rounds were stupid fast. Boss fights were slightly longer. I guess you could switch out if you were fast enough.

I'm not joking it works stupidly well.

I am definitely intrigued. Not sure it's enough to get the gear together, but I like it.

I would still suggest the Meta build for a newcomer, but no denying there are many ways to get through this place.

MartinDeShade · January 2017

How did you get VMA weapons when you have never completed VMA?

darthsithis · February 2017

I have many times lol, wanted flawless. Got it on magsorc tho