disintegr8 wrote: »I would be disappointed if they were any cheaper than this when you look at other crown store items and the fact that houses can potentially serve a purpose - hold a DPS test dummy for build testing, have set crafting stations in them, etc. Especially considering you can spend 4.5k for a mount, up to 1k for a useless pet, 2.5k for a simple character name change, 1k for a hair style - all of which server no real use.I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.
When you look at how much work a player has to put in to get 3.8 million gold, which is about the in game cost of a manor house, it would be an insult to these players if someone with a spare $20 could simply walk in and buy one with crowns.
Maybe I should say that I would see it as an insult. As someone with enough gold to purchase at least one house of every level, I would like to see some items kept strictly for in game gold purchase and not available for crowns (selfish of me I know).DaveMoeDee wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »I would be disappointed if they were any cheaper than this when you look at other crown store items and the fact that houses can potentially serve a purpose - hold a DPS test dummy for build testing, have set crafting stations in them, etc. Especially considering you can spend 4.5k for a mount, up to 1k for a useless pet, 2.5k for a simple character name change, 1k for a hair style - all of which server no real use.I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.
When you look at how much work a player has to put in to get 3.8 million gold, which is about the in game cost of a manor house, it would be an insult to these players if someone with a spare $20 could simply walk in and buy one with crowns.
No, it would not be an insult. They didn't have to spend a cent to get the manor house. What other people spend on vanity items doesn't change your accomplishments. That is like saying when I win on deity in Civ V, it isn't meaningful because there are people who can do the same by just ending the game at 2 turns.
We don't know how much they cost yet. At least I think we don't, the PTS hasn't let me in yet but usually all crown store items on there are 1 crown, so we don't know how much they'll actually cost.
I think it's safe to say it's not going to be cheap however. If you want cheap crown prices the best case scenario is actually that they're trying to make the gold prices prohibitively expensive to push people towards the crown store, because then the crown prices might be relatively cheap. But relatively cheap is still likely to be expensive.
Worst case scenario they want housing to be a gold sink, which means they want to discourage people from using crowns (unlikely I know), so they make the crown price so high gold seems like a better ideaProf_Bawbag wrote: »They charged 5k for the merchant that doesn't repair so I think they'll definitely charge 20k+ for the Manor houses imo since 3.7million is a very large amount ingame, and whilst 20k+ sounds crazy for many people playing this game, there'll be other people who'll find the money for 20k+ crowns far easier to come by than 3.7million ingame gold, or at least ZoS will bank on it, I'm sure.
Only because threads like this pop up actively encouraging them to fleece people. I think this is one of the worst threads I've ever seen on these forums and this being the ESO forums, which have always been frequented by whales and the likes, that takes some doing.
Yes ZoS, please charge people 30k crowns for something that most of us will spend 2 days doing up until the novelty wears off and we're all back to standing spamming AoE's in Mournhold etc.
No one's encouraging them to charge that much, just saying they expect ZOS to try and fleece us, with or without encouragement.
PurifedBladez wrote: »Do we all really care about housing? Are you really just going to log onto eso and stand in your house? Housing is all cosmetic but no one really gets to see your house but you and it's the same house in the same spot as everyone in that area. I don't get the draw..
Did like 90% of eso population become hardcore rp'ers or something?
And if these houses came out on crowns for 10k+ and people bought them it would be a sad day for eso. Something as shallow and meaningless as a video game house that doesn't alter or introduce new game play for 10k *** crowns? Lol no.
If that's the case then pvp will never see its fix lol. They'll just keep banking on retardation.
So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.
jedtb16_ESO wrote: »So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.
3.7 mil a lot?
no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.
I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.
I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.
Lets wait and see.
the only way they have done this so far is in the decorations, where you can have the cool rare things because you did the Achievements.disintegr8 wrote: »I would like to see some items kept strictly for in game gold purchase and not available for crowns (selfish of me I know).
It is always the other way round, with items available in the crown store that you cannot get in game, and I would like to see something the other way round for a change. I know it means no income for ZOS, so it will never happen, but I can dream a little.
You can buy titles in real life, so why not in a game?Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.
Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.
My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.
I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.
Lets wait and see.
Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.
PurifedBladez wrote: »Do we all really care about housing? Are you really just going to log onto eso and stand in your house? Housing is all cosmetic but no one really gets to see your house but you and it's the same house in the same spot as everyone in that area. I don't get the draw..
Did like 90% of eso population become hardcore rp'ers or something?
And if these houses came out on crowns for 10k+ and people bought them it would be a sad day for eso. Something as shallow and meaningless as a video game house that doesn't alter or introduce new game play for 10k *** crowns? Lol no.
If that's the case then pvp will never see its fix lol. They'll just keep banking on retardation.
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.
Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.
My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.
I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.
Lets wait and see.
Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.
hingarthuub17_ESO wrote: »Thing is you're not even buying it. At best you're borrowing/renting it while the game exists. If/when the game shuts down then you've nothing to show for it and all that real-world money is gone as well. 50k crowns = ridiculous; it's quite a bit of real money for something intangible. But, I suppose it'll be a great story for the grandkids about how you had the biggest virtual 'nothing' money had to buy
/snark
Prof_Bawbag wrote: »Aye, but a lot more work went into Orsinium than both the elk and housing combined. So by your reasoning, Orsinium is worth £800.
The DLCs are priced much more reasonably than every cosmetic item in the store. It's possible that they'll use a similar pricing scheme for houses, but I think it is much more likely that they will try to milk people for it given it is also available with in-game gold.Prices are in the patch notes aren't they? Yes, I know these are for the PTS, but I wouldn't expect the prices to change much, if at all.
Inns: Free from quest
Apartments 11 - 13k
Small Homes: 40 - 73k
Medium Homes: 190 - 335k
Large Homes: 760k - 1.295m
Manors: 3.775 - 3.785m
Those are in-game gold prices. Crown prices have not been announced, and likely will not be announced and we'll just be surprised (pleasantly or otherwise) once it finally hits live.
You're right of course. Just couldn't possibly get my mind around 24k crowns for housing.Unsent.Soul wrote: »Prices are in the patch notes aren't they? Yes, I know these are for the PTS, but I wouldn't expect the prices to change much, if at all.
Inns: Free from quest
Apartments 11 - 13k
Small Homes: 40 - 73k
Medium Homes: 190 - 335k
Large Homes: 760k - 1.295m
Manors: 3.775 - 3.785m
All you had to do was read the title...
Relax. It was an honest mistake. I sincerely apologize that I don't keep the title of the thread in mind while taking the time to read each reply.
Bouldercleave wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.
3.7 mil a lot?
no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.
No need to be a ***, the debate so far has been pretty tame. Let's keep it that way.
jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.
3.7 mil a lot?
no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.
No need to be a ***, the debate so far has been pretty tame. Let's keep it that way.
so your opinion is ok but anything you don't agree with is not?
yeah, keep it up snowflake.
.... I imagine the work put into houses is a lot more than the work put into slapping that thing together.....Unsent.Soul wrote: »I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.
Thats rediculous....
Bouldercleave wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.
3.7 mil a lot?
no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.
No need to be a ***, the debate so far has been pretty tame. Let's keep it that way.
so your opinion is ok but anything you don't agree with is not?
yeah, keep it up snowflake.
Nope, your opinion is just fine - I just think you're a ***...
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.
Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.
My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.
rotaugen454 wrote: »You can buy titles in real life, so why not in a game?Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.
Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.
My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.
I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.
Lets wait and see.
Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.
dwemer_paleologist wrote: ».... I imagine the work put into houses is a lot more than the work put into slapping that thing together.....Unsent.Soul wrote: »I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.
Thats rediculous....
yeah, im sorry but that is false information.
i have seen every single house and mansion and i promise you that everything about them is Pure Copy-Paste!
every single one of them is a copy of a house somewhere in another zone, they simply gutted them of furniture and NPC's.
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.
Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.
My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.rotaugen454 wrote: »You can buy titles in real life, so why not in a game?Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.
Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.
My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.
I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.
Lets wait and see.
Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.
Haha Fair point. You have no idea what I spent on the title of Esquire IRL. Definitely not worth it.
I guess my point is that when I see someone with Flawless Conqueror or Grand Overlord, I am impressed. There is a title i believe for owning all 3 manners, which is almost 12 million gold in game. I see that, and again, i am impressed. It kind of diminishes the achievement if you can get it with a credit card...
PurifedBladez wrote: »Do we all really care about housing? Are you really just going to log onto eso and stand in your house? Housing is all cosmetic but no one really gets to see your house but you and it's the same house in the same spot as everyone in that area. I don't get the draw..
Did like 90% of eso population become hardcore rp'ers or something?
And if these houses came out on crowns for 10k+ and people bought them it would be a sad day for eso. Something as shallow and meaningless as a video game house that doesn't alter or introduce new game play for 10k *** crowns? Lol no.
If that's the case then pvp will never see its fix lol. They'll just keep banking on retardation.
Yea but its nice to have a home that you decorate and personalise. Its like personal. But i really hate the idea of dlc thing. You buy a game to play for lile 40 dollars a d you gotta pay 100 dollars for a nice home in it. 100 dollars for pther dlcs and content. 15 dollars every month for craft bag or else you wont have enough inv space. 35 dollars for a merchant that doesnt repair or sell anything and some couple dollars more to make your character looks like more personalised as you like. Also you want to support the game and 40 dollar game becomes 300-500 dollars to enjoy it fully as you like. And that cost always increases with every new content. You are already getting money from monthly subcribers and wont do anything new if you wont get extra money from it? Back in time i bought battlefield 4 permium and i didnt even pay 1 dollar after that. They give free crates regularly to get skins and all dlc and extra contents are fully new! Not like here 10 new weapons you can have 8 of them but you gotta pay more for other 2. Here are the new skins but these skins only can be bought with money.
This is so sad...
I love elder scrolls but i wasnt expecting this moves from eso 2 years ago...
dwemer_paleologist wrote: ».... I imagine the work put into houses is a lot more than the work put into slapping that thing together.....Unsent.Soul wrote: »I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.
Thats rediculous....
yeah, im sorry but that is false information.
i have seen every single house and mansion and i promise you that everything about them is Pure Copy-Paste!
every single one of them is a copy of a house somewhere in another zone, they simply gutted them of furniture and NPC's.
And then added new art assets for new furniture items (trophies, etc.). And added the housing editor. And adjusted the maps to accommodate the areas. And...
There was a lot of work that went into this update. Saying it was less work than a single mount, especially one that is widely considered unremarkable for its price compared to other mounts, is simply incorrect.
I'm not trying to justify prices as high as I listed, I'm merely stating that I would not be surprised in the least should they end up being accurate. After all, that was the point of this thread originally -- speculating at what prices these would go for.