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Buying House With Crowns

  • DaveMoeDee
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    lehran wrote: »
    I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.
    I would be disappointed if they were any cheaper than this when you look at other crown store items and the fact that houses can potentially serve a purpose - hold a DPS test dummy for build testing, have set crafting stations in them, etc. Especially considering you can spend 4.5k for a mount, up to 1k for a useless pet, 2.5k for a simple character name change, 1k for a hair style - all of which server no real use.

    When you look at how much work a player has to put in to get 3.8 million gold, which is about the in game cost of a manor house, it would be an insult to these players if someone with a spare $20 could simply walk in and buy one with crowns.

    No, it would not be an insult. They didn't have to spend a cent to get the manor house. What other people spend on vanity items doesn't change your accomplishments. That is like saying when I win on deity in Civ V, it isn't meaningful because there are people who can do the same by just ending the game at 2 turns.
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    disintegr8 wrote: »
    lehran wrote: »
    I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.
    I would be disappointed if they were any cheaper than this when you look at other crown store items and the fact that houses can potentially serve a purpose - hold a DPS test dummy for build testing, have set crafting stations in them, etc. Especially considering you can spend 4.5k for a mount, up to 1k for a useless pet, 2.5k for a simple character name change, 1k for a hair style - all of which server no real use.

    When you look at how much work a player has to put in to get 3.8 million gold, which is about the in game cost of a manor house, it would be an insult to these players if someone with a spare $20 could simply walk in and buy one with crowns.

    No, it would not be an insult. They didn't have to spend a cent to get the manor house. What other people spend on vanity items doesn't change your accomplishments. That is like saying when I win on deity in Civ V, it isn't meaningful because there are people who can do the same by just ending the game at 2 turns.
    Maybe I should say that I would see it as an insult. As someone with enough gold to purchase at least one house of every level, I would like to see some items kept strictly for in game gold purchase and not available for crowns (selfish of me I know).

    It is always the other way round, with items available in the crown store that you cannot get in game, and I would like to see something the other way round for a change. I know it means no income for ZOS, so it will never happen, but I can dream a little.
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  • Prof_Bawbag
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    Danikat wrote: »
    We don't know how much they cost yet. At least I think we don't, the PTS hasn't let me in yet but usually all crown store items on there are 1 crown, so we don't know how much they'll actually cost.

    I think it's safe to say it's not going to be cheap however. If you want cheap crown prices the best case scenario is actually that they're trying to make the gold prices prohibitively expensive to push people towards the crown store, because then the crown prices might be relatively cheap. But relatively cheap is still likely to be expensive.

    Worst case scenario they want housing to be a gold sink, which means they want to discourage people from using crowns (unlikely I know), so they make the crown price so high gold seems like a better idea
    Tolrog wrote: »
    They charged 5k for the merchant that doesn't repair so I think they'll definitely charge 20k+ for the Manor houses imo since 3.7million is a very large amount ingame, and whilst 20k+ sounds crazy for many people playing this game, there'll be other people who'll find the money for 20k+ crowns far easier to come by than 3.7million ingame gold, or at least ZoS will bank on it, I'm sure.

    Only because threads like this pop up actively encouraging them to fleece people. I think this is one of the worst threads I've ever seen on these forums and this being the ESO forums, which have always been frequented by whales and the likes, that takes some doing.

    Yes ZoS, please charge people 30k crowns for something that most of us will spend 2 days doing up until the novelty wears off and we're all back to standing spamming AoE's in Mournhold etc.

    No one's encouraging them to charge that much, just saying they expect ZOS to try and fleece us, with or without encouragement.

    Sorry, I worded all that badly. It wasn't aimed at you per se, more at the people who actually think it would be fair pricing. All because they had to earn their 3m the hard way. I have enough gold, along with sell-able mats etc for any house I want, but that doesn't mean I'm ok with anything appearing in the CS for 30k. Nor was it particularly hard to obtain all that wealth. I obtained my gold doing *** I enjoyed and maybe it was sprinkled with a few chore like tasks here n there, but on the whole, it was easy going. I didn't need to get up at 4am to do a 16 hour shift down a mine.

    Next it will be 10k mounts, even more underhanded methods to get us to part with our cash and so on.

    I'll tell you why I think the elk was priced at 4500crs. Because it makes the Atronach mounts seem more of a reasonable cash sink. After all, if the elk is worth 4500crs, then any mount with bells and whistles on it is worth at least double that. They've attempted to make the Atronach mounts appear more value for money.
  • Cyrediath
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    I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.

    I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.

    Lets wait and see.
  • PurifedBladez
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    Do we all really care about housing? Are you really just going to log onto eso and stand in your house? Housing is all cosmetic but no one really gets to see your house but you and it's the same house in the same spot as everyone in that area. I don't get the draw..

    Did like 90% of eso population become hardcore rp'ers or something?

    And if these houses came out on crowns for 10k+ and people bought them it would be a sad day for eso. Something as shallow and meaningless as a video game house that doesn't alter or introduce new game play for 10k *** crowns? Lol no.

    If that's the case then pvp will never see its fix lol. They'll just keep banking on retardation.
    Edited by PurifedBladez on January 5, 2017 9:24PM
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    Do we all really care about housing? Are you really just going to log onto eso and stand in your house? Housing is all cosmetic but no one really gets to see your house but you and it's the same house in the same spot as everyone in that area. I don't get the draw..

    Did like 90% of eso population become hardcore rp'ers or something?

    And if these houses came out on crowns for 10k+ and people bought them it would be a sad day for eso. Something as shallow and meaningless as a video game house that doesn't alter or introduce new game play for 10k *** crowns? Lol no.

    If that's the case then pvp will never see its fix lol. They'll just keep banking on retardation.

    Sadly, I have to agree with you.

    In one of my all time favorite MMOs (which I will not name) people would come to your home to interact with your broker for the auction house. It became a manner of pride to get a tell from someone impressed with how you did up your home. They also had storage, and tons of craftable / sellable items.

    I'm not sure at this point if I will bother buying one at all. i may dabble with the apartment, but without a purpose for people to come to your house, I just see it as a gold or crown sink. Personally I wanted / expected much more.
    Edited by Bouldercleave on January 5, 2017 9:32PM
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    Cyrediath wrote: »
    So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.

    3.7 mil a lot?

    no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.
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    Cyrediath wrote: »
    So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.

    3.7 mil a lot?

    no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.

    No need to be a ***, the debate so far has been pretty tame. Let's keep it that way.
    Edited by Bouldercleave on January 5, 2017 9:49PM
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.

    Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.

    My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.
    Cyrediath wrote: »
    I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.

    I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.

    Lets wait and see.

    Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on January 5, 2017 10:02PM
  • Pheefs
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    my guess would be from 2K to 5K, I agree that they'll want to make it attractive to buy multiple homes with crowns.
    & those big ones, who knows? probably more than I will ever have unless I win the Crown Lottery!
    ;)
    Is a mount worth as much as a DLC? for some people it was...
    but the difference from the least to most expensive mount in crowns is HUGE.
    so is a Castle worth as much or more as a DLC?
    disintegr8 wrote: »
    I would like to see some items kept strictly for in game gold purchase and not available for crowns (selfish of me I know).

    It is always the other way round, with items available in the crown store that you cannot get in game, and I would like to see something the other way round for a change. I know it means no income for ZOS, so it will never happen, but I can dream a little.
    the only way they have done this so far is in the decorations, where you can have the cool rare things because you did the Achievements.

    I'd love to see more of this!
    where how & what we play changes our options in the housing, if there's style items or whole exterior paint/stone we can get from doing the content & spending the gold.
    :)
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  • rotaugen454
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    I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.

    Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.

    My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.
    Cyrediath wrote: »
    I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.

    I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.

    Lets wait and see.

    Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.
    You can buy titles in real life, so why not in a game?
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  • Pandorii
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    These estimates are for the manors? 3k to 50k? What about the crown-exclusive islands. Would those be more or less than the manors?
  • Cyrediath
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    Do we all really care about housing? Are you really just going to log onto eso and stand in your house? Housing is all cosmetic but no one really gets to see your house but you and it's the same house in the same spot as everyone in that area. I don't get the draw..

    Did like 90% of eso population become hardcore rp'ers or something?

    And if these houses came out on crowns for 10k+ and people bought them it would be a sad day for eso. Something as shallow and meaningless as a video game house that doesn't alter or introduce new game play for 10k *** crowns? Lol no.

    If that's the case then pvp will never see its fix lol. They'll just keep banking on retardation.

    Yea but its nice to have a home that you decorate and personalise. Its like personal. But i really hate the idea of dlc thing. You buy a game to play for lile 40 dollars a d you gotta pay 100 dollars for a nice home in it. 100 dollars for pther dlcs and content. 15 dollars every month for craft bag or else you wont have enough inv space. 35 dollars for a merchant that doesnt repair or sell anything and some couple dollars more to make your character looks like more personalised as you like. Also you want to support the game and 40 dollar game becomes 300-500 dollars to enjoy it fully as you like. And that cost always increases with every new content. You are already getting money from monthly subcribers and wont do anything new if you wont get extra money from it? Back in time i bought battlefield 4 permium and i didnt even pay 1 dollar after that. They give free crates regularly to get skins and all dlc and extra contents are fully new! Not like here 10 new weapons you can have 8 of them but you gotta pay more for other 2. Here are the new skins but these skins only can be bought with money.

    This is so sad...

    I love elder scrolls but i wasnt expecting this moves from eso 2 years ago...
  • hingarthuub17_ESO
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    Thing is you're not even buying it. At best you're borrowing/renting it while the game exists. If/when the game shuts down then you've nothing to show for it and all that real-world money is gone as well. 50k crowns = ridiculous; it's quite a bit of real money for something intangible. But, I suppose it'll be a great story for the grandkids about how you had the biggest virtual 'nothing' money had to buy :)

    /snark
    Edited by hingarthuub17_ESO on January 5, 2017 10:10PM
  • Cyrediath
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    I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.

    Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.

    My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.
    Cyrediath wrote: »
    I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.

    I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.

    Lets wait and see.

    Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.

    I enjoy farming and yea for farming gold you dont pay real money. If you werent farming you wouldnt go to second job so...

    I just want them to make it lile 10-15k crowns so many people can enjoy and also eso can earn much more money and everyone happy. Isnt it? They made 4.500crown mount and i dont see many people riding it. But pretty much everyone has pets right? So selling 4.500x10 mounts or 1.000x50 pets?

    Also there are people living in countries outside europe with minimum salary around 300 dollars. And 100 dollar for a ingame house.. ehh.. they also deserve to have nice things with sacrifice the same amount from their money compered to someone getting minimum salary at eumaybe around 900 dollars?

    About 3 million, you can easily farm around 100k-300k in a day without spending your all day infront of pc. And yea it takes max 1 month so if you start farming now you can have manor when update comes. But with real money situation is different.

    I think zos should respect players. People love this game and want to support but dont hit their ecenomy hard zos please!
  • Cyrediath
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    Thing is you're not even buying it. At best you're borrowing/renting it while the game exists. If/when the game shuts down then you've nothing to show for it and all that real-world money is gone as well. 50k crowns = ridiculous; it's quite a bit of real money for something intangible. But, I suppose it'll be a great story for the grandkids about how you had the biggest virtual 'nothing' money had to buy :)

    /snark

    Yea some of us have that games (dota cs wow) that we spent so much real money on it and not playing anymore so its just gone.

    15k crowns around 100$ i guess. Anything more than this will make people unhappy. Only few people will buy it like elk mount. I hope someone from zos reads this topic.
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    Number_51 wrote: »
    lehran wrote: »
    Aye, but a lot more work went into Orsinium than both the elk and housing combined. So by your reasoning, Orsinium is worth £800.

    The DLCs are priced much more reasonably than every cosmetic item in the store. It's possible that they'll use a similar pricing scheme for houses, but I think it is much more likely that they will try to milk people for it given it is also available with in-game gold.
    Number_51 wrote: »
    Prices are in the patch notes aren't they? Yes, I know these are for the PTS, but I wouldn't expect the prices to change much, if at all.

    Inns: Free from quest
    Apartments 11 - 13k
    Small Homes: 40 - 73k
    Medium Homes: 190 - 335k
    Large Homes: 760k - 1.295m
    Manors: 3.775 - 3.785m

    Those are in-game gold prices. Crown prices have not been announced, and likely will not be announced and we'll just be surprised (pleasantly or otherwise) once it finally hits live.

    You're right of course. Just couldn't possibly get my mind around 24k crowns for housing.
    Number_51 wrote: »
    Prices are in the patch notes aren't they? Yes, I know these are for the PTS, but I wouldn't expect the prices to change much, if at all.

    Inns: Free from quest
    Apartments 11 - 13k
    Small Homes: 40 - 73k
    Medium Homes: 190 - 335k
    Large Homes: 760k - 1.295m
    Manors: 3.775 - 3.785m

    All you had to do was read the title...

    Relax. It was an honest mistake. I sincerely apologize that I don't keep the title of the thread in mind while taking the time to read each reply.

    You piece of human filth READ THE DAMN TITLE NEXT TIME!!!!! GRRRAAGGRHRHHHH!!!!!! :wink:
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Cyrediath wrote: »
    So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.

    3.7 mil a lot?

    no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.

    No need to be a ***, the debate so far has been pretty tame. Let's keep it that way.

    so your opinion is ok but anything you don't agree with is not?

    yeah, keep it up snowflake.
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    Cyrediath wrote: »
    So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.

    3.7 mil a lot?

    no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.

    No need to be a ***, the debate so far has been pretty tame. Let's keep it that way.

    so your opinion is ok but anything you don't agree with is not?

    yeah, keep it up snowflake.

    Nope, your opinion is just fine - I just think you're a ***...
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    lehran wrote: »
    lehran wrote: »
    I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.

    Thats rediculous....
    .... I imagine the work put into houses is a lot more than the work put into slapping that thing together.....

    yeah, im sorry but that is false information.

    i have seen every single house and mansion and i promise you that everything about them is Pure Copy-Paste!
    every single one of them is a copy of a house somewhere in another zone, they simply gutted them of furniture and NPC's.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Cyrediath wrote: »
    So, how much does big houses costs in crowns? Especially biggest ones. Manor. Do you think they will be something like 20.000 crowns? Because 3.7 million gold is a lot actually.

    3.7 mil a lot?

    no, it isn't. all it takes is a bit of focus (dirty word for the snowflakes there) and some effort... oops another dirty word.

    No need to be a ***, the debate so far has been pretty tame. Let's keep it that way.

    so your opinion is ok but anything you don't agree with is not?

    yeah, keep it up snowflake.

    Nope, your opinion is just fine - I just think you're a ***...

    that is entirely mutual
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.

    Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.

    My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.
    I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.

    Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.

    My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.
    Cyrediath wrote: »
    I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.

    I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.

    Lets wait and see.

    Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.
    You can buy titles in real life, so why not in a game?

    Haha Fair point. You have no idea what I spent on the title of Esquire IRL. Definitely not worth it.

    I guess my point is that when I see someone with Flawless Conqueror or Grand Overlord, I am impressed. There is a title i believe for owning all 3 manners, which is almost 12 million gold in game. I see that, and again, i am impressed. It kind of diminishes the achievement if you can get it with a credit card...
  • lehran
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    lehran wrote: »
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    I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.

    Thats rediculous....
    .... I imagine the work put into houses is a lot more than the work put into slapping that thing together.....

    yeah, im sorry but that is false information.

    i have seen every single house and mansion and i promise you that everything about them is Pure Copy-Paste!
    every single one of them is a copy of a house somewhere in another zone, they simply gutted them of furniture and NPC's.

    And then added new art assets for new furniture items (trophies, etc.). And added the housing editor. And adjusted the maps to accommodate the areas. And...

    There was a lot of work that went into this update. Saying it was less work than a single mount, especially one that is widely considered unremarkable for its price compared to other mounts, is simply incorrect.

    I'm not trying to justify prices as high as I listed, I'm merely stating that I would not be surprised in the least should they end up being accurate. After all, that was the point of this thread originally -- speculating at what prices these would go for.
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    I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.

    Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.

    My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.
    I would certainly take the over on 25k for a manor if I was a betting man. I would not complain if they cost 50k. I think there has to be some basic relationship between the cost of something in gold vs the cost of something in crowns or its meaningless. 5k crowns and 3.8 million gold are not even close to the same thing, so I would be shocked, and frankly a little upset if they were that low.

    Think of it this way, if they put 3.8 million gold on sale in the crown store for 5k crowns would you buy it? (terrible idea but illustrating a point) Of course you would. Put 3.8 million gold on sale for 50k crowns and would you buy it? Some would, but its a much tougher call. I have no idea what the proper conversion should or will be, but for people thinking they are going to get manor for 5k, I "think" you are wildly mistaken.

    My 2 Cents: They should be super expensive in the crownstore, and you should not get the titles for using crowns. Buying titles is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Now someone that buys all 3 manors with gold, that is pretty impressive. You should be called Count or whatever the title is. If you do it with crowns, the most appropriate title should be Mom's Credit Card.
    Cyrediath wrote: »
    I hope crown exclusive houses will be around 10k-15k max. Because lots of people wants to buy a house and they will buy it with in-game gold because its free in real life but if zos keeps the crown exclusive houses reasonable like 10-15 lots of people also sill buy that and zos + people will win. Win-win. If they make the price of crown exclusive houses lile 20-25 i think very few people will buy it. Zos wants to earn money ofc so houses gotta be cheap so people will buy it. Lots of people.

    I honestly really would like to buy a house with crowns. I only buy if its around 10-15k so its like 120dollars in my steam. If its expensive than that i wont buy. And i think there are tons of people like that. The amount of people who will buy that house with 20k crown is not double of the people who will buy with 10k.

    Lets wait and see.

    Edit: Also in-game gold is NOT free in real life if you have a job. Every hour I spend farming gold is an hour I didn't spend making actual money at this place called WORK.
    You can buy titles in real life, so why not in a game?

    Haha Fair point. You have no idea what I spent on the title of Esquire IRL. Definitely not worth it.

    I guess my point is that when I see someone with Flawless Conqueror or Grand Overlord, I am impressed. There is a title i believe for owning all 3 manners, which is almost 12 million gold in game. I see that, and again, i am impressed. It kind of diminishes the achievement if you can get it with a credit card...

    because having a credit card, and the credit to back it up, takes no effort whatsoever right?
  • PurifedBladez
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    Cyrediath wrote: »
    Do we all really care about housing? Are you really just going to log onto eso and stand in your house? Housing is all cosmetic but no one really gets to see your house but you and it's the same house in the same spot as everyone in that area. I don't get the draw..

    Did like 90% of eso population become hardcore rp'ers or something?

    And if these houses came out on crowns for 10k+ and people bought them it would be a sad day for eso. Something as shallow and meaningless as a video game house that doesn't alter or introduce new game play for 10k *** crowns? Lol no.

    If that's the case then pvp will never see its fix lol. They'll just keep banking on retardation.

    Yea but its nice to have a home that you decorate and personalise. Its like personal. But i really hate the idea of dlc thing. You buy a game to play for lile 40 dollars a d you gotta pay 100 dollars for a nice home in it. 100 dollars for pther dlcs and content. 15 dollars every month for craft bag or else you wont have enough inv space. 35 dollars for a merchant that doesnt repair or sell anything and some couple dollars more to make your character looks like more personalised as you like. Also you want to support the game and 40 dollar game becomes 300-500 dollars to enjoy it fully as you like. And that cost always increases with every new content. You are already getting money from monthly subcribers and wont do anything new if you wont get extra money from it? Back in time i bought battlefield 4 permium and i didnt even pay 1 dollar after that. They give free crates regularly to get skins and all dlc and extra contents are fully new! Not like here 10 new weapons you can have 8 of them but you gotta pay more for other 2. Here are the new skins but these skins only can be bought with money.

    This is so sad...

    I love elder scrolls but i wasnt expecting this moves from eso 2 years ago...

    Ok and after its decorated and you spent your millions on it.. then what? There would be no reason to be there except to rp.

    ZoS is consistently mediocre. They try to go after all these cools ideas but somewhere along the line it's like they just throw their hands in the air and say *** it. So many things that could of been way better with proper execution.

    Maybe like some housing building zones throughout tamirel and you have to purchase a plot of land and build from the ground up with resources from the world. These homes would be apart of the world and afterwards you could sell, open to public, destroy it, etc. Obviously not everyone would have a house or be able to afford one but this would have been way better imo. The apartment could still be used so everyone would at least be able to have something.

    I just can't help but to ask how much time these guys really spent on this idea.
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    lehran wrote: »
    lehran wrote: »
    lehran wrote: »
    I'd guess the manors will run around 24k, large houses 12k, medium 6k, small 3k, and apartments 1.5k for unfurnished, and furnished prices to be 1.5-2k higher. Judging by how much they price everything else on the store, I doubt it will be remotely cheap to get anything good, much less all of them.

    Thats rediculous....
    .... I imagine the work put into houses is a lot more than the work put into slapping that thing together.....

    yeah, im sorry but that is false information.

    i have seen every single house and mansion and i promise you that everything about them is Pure Copy-Paste!
    every single one of them is a copy of a house somewhere in another zone, they simply gutted them of furniture and NPC's.

    And then added new art assets for new furniture items (trophies, etc.). And added the housing editor. And adjusted the maps to accommodate the areas. And...

    There was a lot of work that went into this update. Saying it was less work than a single mount, especially one that is widely considered unremarkable for its price compared to other mounts, is simply incorrect.

    I'm not trying to justify prices as high as I listed, I'm merely stating that I would not be surprised in the least should they end up being accurate. After all, that was the point of this thread originally -- speculating at what prices these would go for.

    ok, yes, i agree with that. yes,
    but the homes themselves is what i was refering to. and to price them at $100.00 US Dollars is just not fair.
  • Jimbullbee85
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    10K crowns is £60 in Britain. I wouldn't even buy a whole new game for that unless it was a collectors special edition lol. But... there are some who bought the Elk mount for half that so wouldn't surprise me if the mansion was going for more.
    Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage
  • Dev
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    considering that the houses are not competitive, and you can get every one in game, the fact that they 'want' you to buy a lot of houses, and there are achievements based on the number of houses you own...

    there really isnt a point to making them all that expensive. 40$ for 5500 crowns is a fair price, i sort of expect a 75$ / 8k crown price mark for the higher end.

    Yes, i am sure some people would buy them at higher prices, but probably not enough to have the sales volume.

    The overall nerfs they have planned, certainly will not cause too many people to open their wallets for zos so they will have to keep the numbers reasonable.
  • FoolishHuman
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    100 euros or more for a virtual ingame house that will just vanish the moment the servers go out. You people must be rich or very weird to think that would be fair. I wouldn't pay that much for an entire game.
    I remember the time people were raging about 10 euro horse armor for oblivion, look how far the gaming companies have come to make gamers accept this kind of thing.
  • Slurg
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    A 4,500 crown elk mount is a one-time purchase. You can't buy a red nose and suit to dress him up (unfortunately).

    A crown house is a purchase that will cause you to make additional crown purchases to customize it (they hope) and subscribe in order to put more things in it. So I don't think the house prices will be related to the mount prices. If anything I think they will make them relatively affordable in order to get you to buy more of them, and therefore more crown furniture and other items to put in them.
    Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
    Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.
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