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"Beam treatment" for Force Pulse / Crushing Shock

Kas
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Can't wait to test it. Patchnotes only mention reflect, but other "beams" have a MUCH more important effect: they cannot be dodged. Can't wait to see if that's the case. It would be huge, imho.
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  • Dracane
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    I wonder, if force shock is now undodgeable as well. Since it counts as a beam now, shouldn't it be undodgeable as well ?
    Great change anyway, finally, DKs will no longer be able to completely surpress casters. Force shock is not that strong, but at least something reliable now.

    If it was, then this means it can't be shuffled either. That would be a super good and reliable ability, something this weapon line really needed. We'll see.
    Edited by Dracane on January 4, 2017 10:35AM
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  • Dymence
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    The way I see it, finally a way for sorcs to properly deal with scale spamming DKs.
  • Derra
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    I really hope it will not be undodgeable.

    That would be completely broken and push everyone even more towards heavy armor and block.
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  • Dracane
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    Derra wrote: »
    I really hope it will not be undodgeable.

    That would be completely broken and push everyone even more towards heavy armor and block.

    It's not strong. It deals unsignficiant damage, it would merely allow to have more constant dps on stam users.
    Something casters really need, they are too easy to counter and shut down in pvp. But I doubt it will be undodgeable, even if that would made sense now.
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  • Birdovic
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    Dracane wrote: »
    I wonder, if force shock is now undodgeable as well. Since it counts as a beam now, shouldn't it be undodgeable as well ?
    Great change anyway, finally, DKs will no longer be able to completely surpress casters. Force shock is not that strong, but at least something reliable now.

    If it was, then this means it can't be shuffled either. That would be a super good and reliable ability, something this weapon line really needed. We'll see.

    Honestly, that sounds too good to be true.
    I think it just isn't reflectable anymore like Mages Wrath/Funnel Health/ and that's it.

    Undodgeable won't happen, since it's not a channeled Ability, I'd say.
    Edited by Birdovic on January 4, 2017 10:41AM
  • Dracane
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    Birdovic wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    I wonder, if force shock is now undodgeable as well. Since it counts as a beam now, shouldn't it be undodgeable as well ?
    Great change anyway, finally, DKs will no longer be able to completely surpress casters. Force shock is not that strong, but at least something reliable now.

    If it was, then this means it can't be shuffled either. That would be a super good and reliable ability, something this weapon line really needed. We'll see.

    Honestly, that sounds too good to be true.
    I think it just isn't reflectable anymore like Mages Wrath/Funnel Health/ and that's it.

    Undodgeable won't happen, since it's not a channeled Ability, I'd say.

    True. Channeled and beam like seems to be a difference after all.
    Still, nice change.
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  • Cinbri
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    so Crushing shock wont be neglected by Spell Wall ultimate anymore.
  • Birdovic
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    so Crushing shock wont be neglected by Spell Wall ultimate anymore.

    Not reflected, but still blocked I guess.
  • Xsorus
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    I really hope it will not be undodgeable.

    That would be completely broken and push everyone even more towards heavy armor and block.

    It's not strong. It deals unsignficiant damage, it would merely allow to have more constant dps on stam users.
    Something casters really need, they are too easy to counter and shut down in pvp. But I doubt it will be undodgeable, even if that would made sense now.

    Are you joking?

    *** Flame Lash when undodgeable was super overpowered vs Dodge Users, and you're telling me that you don't think This would be? with 41 meter range?

    Please....
  • Sharee
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    Dymence wrote: »
    The way I see it, finally a way for sorcs to properly deal with scale spamming DKs.

    As a DK, i actually welcome this. You see, its not the shock i cast my wings for, its the empowered frags. Now you can no longer use shock weaving to chew through my 4 reflects faster than i can recast them.
  • leepalmer95
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    Dymence wrote: »
    The way I see it, finally a way for sorcs to properly deal with scale spamming DKs.

    Because they didn't before....

    The curse
    Fury
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    Mines
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    Heavy resto
    Heavy lightning

    The only thing a dk reflected was frag + crushing.

    Now they'll only reflect frag, is it even worth using wings anymore?
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  • Dracane
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    I really hope it will not be undodgeable.

    That would be completely broken and push everyone even more towards heavy armor and block.

    It's not strong. It deals unsignficiant damage, it would merely allow to have more constant dps on stam users.
    Something casters really need, they are too easy to counter and shut down in pvp. But I doubt it will be undodgeable, even if that would made sense now.

    Are you joking?

    *** Flame Lash when undodgeable was super overpowered vs Dodge Users, and you're telling me that you don't think This would be? with 41 meter range?

    Please....

    No, I don't think it would be overpowered.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    I really hope it will not be undodgeable.

    That would be completely broken and push everyone even more towards heavy armor and block.

    It's not strong. It deals unsignficiant damage, it would merely allow to have more constant dps on stam users.
    Something casters really need, they are too easy to counter and shut down in pvp. But I doubt it will be undodgeable, even if that would made sense now.

    Are you joking?

    *** Flame Lash when undodgeable was super overpowered vs Dodge Users, and you're telling me that you don't think This would be? with 41 meter range?

    Please....

    No, I don't think it would be overpowered.

    Because thats what this game needs, more things that ignore dodge roll -_-
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  • Dracane
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    I really hope it will not be undodgeable.

    That would be completely broken and push everyone even more towards heavy armor and block.

    It's not strong. It deals unsignficiant damage, it would merely allow to have more constant dps on stam users.
    Something casters really need, they are too easy to counter and shut down in pvp. But I doubt it will be undodgeable, even if that would made sense now.

    Are you joking?

    *** Flame Lash when undodgeable was super overpowered vs Dodge Users, and you're telling me that you don't think This would be? with 41 meter range?

    Please....

    No, I don't think it would be overpowered.

    Because thats what this game needs, more things that ignore dodge roll -_-

    Yaaay yes *-*
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    Trinimac is my shield,
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  • Delegator
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    Add in the decreased dodge chance from major evasion and dodge overall is being cut back.
  • Minalan
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Dymence wrote: »
    The way I see it, finally a way for sorcs to properly deal with scale spamming DKs.

    As a DK, i actually welcome this. You see, its not the shock i cast my wings for, its the empowered frags. Now you can no longer use shock weaving to chew through my 4 reflects faster than i can recast them.

    You're right. Now it's just the light attacks we weave in.
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