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Dragon Knight PTS discussion (homestead)

Armitas
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Dragonknight
  • Ardent Flame
    • Burning Embers (Searing Strike morph): Fixed an issue where Rank IV of this morph was not allowing multiple Dragonknights to apply the Damage over Time component to the same target.
    • Fiery Grip: Increased the duration of the Major Expedition buff granted by this ability and its morphs to 8 seconds from 2 seconds.
    • Inferno: Fixed an issue where this ability and its morphs would display an incorrect Spell Critical Strike Chance percentage on your character UI after swapping weapons.
    • Lava Whip: Increased the damage from this ability and its morphs by 5%.
    • Standard of Might (Dragonknight Standard morph): This morph now increases your damage done and decreases your damage taken by 12/13/14/15% while standing inside the standard, down from 17/18/19/20%.
  • Draconic Power
    • Coagulating Blood (Dragon Blood morph): This morph now heals you for 33% of your missing Magicka instead of 33% of your missing Health.
    • Dragon Blood: This ability and its morphs can now Critically Strike.
    • Ferocious Leap (Dragon Leap morph): This morph now deals Flame Damage instead of Physical Damage.
    • Hardened Armor (Spiked Armor morph): Increased the damage shield value granted by this morph to 15% of your Maximum Health from 10% of your Maximum Health.
    • Iron Skin: Reduced the amount of additional damage you can block from Rank I of this passive to 4% from 5%.
      • Note that due to how percentages are calculated, the total damage blocked with this rank remains unchanged.
    • Spiked Armor: Fixed an issue where this ability and its morphs would deal their thorns damage when the attacker procced a Disease or Poison Weapon Enchantment on the Dragonknight.
    • Volatile Armor (Spiked Armor morph): Increased the damage of the Damage over Time component of this morph by approximately 20%.
  • Earthen Heart
    • Battle Roar: Significantly revised this passive ability’s tooltip to more accurately describe the values of Health, Magicka, and Stamina it restores based on the Ultimate’s cost.
      • Note that decimal values will be truncated from the tooltip, so values restored may be slightly higher than described.

I like the whip change. Basically they took 5% off standard of might and gave it to whip. We will lose some dot damage in PvE with our banner down but we will gain 5% whip damage while the banner is charging. I'm not going to math that but I really like the extra flat whip damage we got out of it.

Dragonblood is really confusing. Can't tell if it's giving me magicka or health based on my magicka. Guess I'll have to wait till pts is downloaded.

I'm glad to see volatile armor get a buff can't wait to see what it ticks for (specially with Thaumaturge)

Engulfing flame and dragon leap should make for a nice combo.

What does everyone else think?
Edited by Armitas on January 4, 2017 12:16AM
Retired.
Nord mDK
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    What in the world did they do to dragon blood ?
  • Armitas
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    Yeah I was so excited until I saw that. I don't get it, if I'm that low on magicka here i'm kind of just delaying the inevitable.
    Edited by Armitas on January 3, 2017 10:15PM
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  • Tryxus
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    What in the world did they do to dragon blood ?

    GDB remains the same, Coagulating heals you based on your missing Magicka. Which may mean better heals due to it being scaled off a larger resource pool.

    Plus it can crit now

    Kinda looks promising

    The damage buff to whip and the various fixes are nice as well. Plus Leap Ulti has a Magicka morph now, which is a great addition too for a Mag DK. And I bet Volatile's gonna be a NB's worst nightmare now >:)
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    This requires testing bad . It will change resource management in fights and I can't wrap my head around the reasoning but would like to know .
  • Armitas
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    So one of the things mDK's have been complaining about is sustain. Well our lack of sustain will now keep our Dragonsblood healing high....but then adding magicka recovery and reduce magicka cost so we can cast skills will also make our healing sub par. At some point someone is going to die and say "man I need to lower my sustain so I can survive". That's...not right.
    Edited by Armitas on January 3, 2017 10:20PM
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Need to rely on burning embers more . Dragon blood was already meh and now it's in a stranger place .
  • Ishammael
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    The dragon Blood change really forces DK into low regen builds to maximize its potency.

    Incoming all DKs running Trainee and Tava I think.
  • Armitas
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    Force Shock: This ability and its morphs can no longer be reflected. Beam-type attacks cannot be reflected, but are able to be blocked.

    Also of note, additional nerf to DK wings. We were expecting a buff here but it now does less.
    Edited by Armitas on January 3, 2017 10:28PM
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  • Hutch679
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    I don't get the change to dragon blood... makes no sense. The rest for dks is great. But still no heal means I won't be returning to elder scrolls online lol hey maybe next patch update in 6 months though! Pft.
  • Bashev
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    Still no changes with the gap closer? If chains dont move you to the target after a dodge it is a useless skill again.
    What i can see is 1h/s + frost staff. When you are out of magicka you switch to 1h/s and vice versa. Perma block all the way and use crowding swarm for a gap closer :P
    Because I can!
  • omfgitsbatman
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    This means you can't run a high recovery build if you're hoping to heal yourself with dragonblood. Great -.- my mag dk is gonna love that
    He's the healer Tamriel deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hurt his tank. Because he can heal them to full. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful rejuvinator. A Cloaked Healer.

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  • forzajuve212
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    Armitas wrote: »
    So one of the things mDK's have been complaining about is sustain. Well our lack of sustain will now keep our Dragonsblood healing high....but then adding magicka recovery and reduce magicka cost so we can cast skills will also make our healing sub par. At some point someone is going to die and say "man I need to lower my sustain so I can survive". That's...not right.

    Yea it's really... odd....... gonna have to test it and see how i feel about it

    Very happy with the rest of the changes tho, whip buff is nice, extra dot from Volatile, plus mag dk cheap ult is all a plus
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Standard of might got nerfed ...why .
  • Moglijuana
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    I'm liking the minor changes...but the Dragon Blood change...Why Coagulating??? They needed to changed GDB since it gives the same buff tri-pots give...like what...Either way it doesn't look that appealing over healing ward...STILL.
    Edited by Moglijuana on January 3, 2017 10:35PM
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  • skwherl
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    Keep the crit, But change db to a heal like breath of life or make it a hot like vigor.
    Squirrel

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  • omfgitsbatman
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    skwherl wrote: »
    Keep the crit, But change db to a heal like breath of life or make it a hot like vigor.

    make one morph do the one and the other do the other?
    He's the healer Tamriel deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hurt his tank. Because he can heal them to full. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful rejuvinator. A Cloaked Healer.

    @Omfgitsbatman PC/NA
    Ticktick-Argonian Nightblade Healer/Magicka DPS
    Tinytick- Imperial DK Tank
    Wuches Y'Shaur- V16 High Elf Sorc Magicka DPS
    Ticktator- Dunmer DK Magicka DPS
    Tick Head- Dark Elf Magicka NB DPS

    GM:
    Mercs Of Sovngarde (EP/NA): AA (HM), HRC (HM), VSO (HM), VDSA, VMSA complete
    Vet Maw 4/5

  • Bashev
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    Plus forse shock is unreflectable anymore. Yeah now scales will last longer :smiley:

    Black rose + desert rose + frost staff will be a nice combination.
    Because I can!
  • DRXHarbinger
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    So dragon blood now. 40k magika...pop DB whilst at 20k magika and heal for 6600? About right? But it can crit...so up to a 9k heal..oddly though the more you spam it the bigger the heal.

    Whip = good. Should be about 16k ish now on crit.

    Rest = useless. I was expecting a whole lot more.

    On the other hand we gain more damage by using an inferno staff on top of Dunmer passives. So magDK becomes OP as.

    Magika blocking though. ...awesome..just what we needed, something else we can't sustain.
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  • Izaki
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    Ferocious Leap Flame damage OP. We finally have some decent burst boys. I can already feel the Powerlash into Dragon Leap combo with Engulfing and Burning up. Can't wait to put on some PvP gear. Been stuck in PvE for way too long.
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  • Joy_Division
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    Like to know the reason form coagulating blood. I want a heal when I'm low on health, not low on magicka.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • Bashev
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    So dragon blood now. 40k magika...pop DB whilst at 20k magika and heal for 6600? About right? But it can crit...so up to a 9k heal..oddly though the more you spam it the bigger the heal.
    You forgot the battle spirit!

    Because I can!
  • Saint_Bud
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    No reason to slott this in pvp. People ask for gabcloser, a real heal instead burning embers and inhale.
    But yes mdk get fireleap after 2 years of asking.
    But this doesent matter, cyro will die fast with this patch.

    For pve endgame dd role it looks good, but for pve quest&co its same as for pvp
    PVP Saint-Bud magicka Templar: AR 49
    PVE Lord Victarion mDK : dro'm-Athra-Destroyer pre Morrowind retired for crafting
    PVE Ramsay-Bolton magicka NB: Voice of Reason Clockwork City Patch retired
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    Stop playing PVE because its boring, content not disigned for melee players and class balance and sustain is ***
  • Bashev
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    Like to know the reason form coagulating blood. I want a heal when I'm low on health, not low on magicka.

    There is no logic. If it was 33% from your max magicka then...
    Because I can!
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Bashev wrote: »
    So dragon blood now. 40k magika...pop DB whilst at 20k magika and heal for 6600? About right? But it can crit...so up to a 9k heal..oddly though the more you spam it the bigger the heal.
    You forgot the battle spirit!

    Ah yes battle spirit... cool so the biggest heal I'll ever get will be around 11k....and it'll be the last spell I cast before I run out of magika and die anyway...

    #dissapointed.
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Wrobel said he had great things for DK coming . Why does every gift from him feel like a horse made from Spartans ?
    Edited by Rohamad_Ali on January 3, 2017 10:45PM
  • omfgitsbatman
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    Saint_Bud wrote: »
    No reason to slott this in pvp. People ask for gabcloser, a real heal instead burning embers and inhale.
    But yes mdk get fireleap after 2 years of asking.
    But this doesent matter, cyro will die fast with this patch.

    For pve endgame dd role it looks good, but for pve quest&co its same as for pvp

    DK actually took a hit in terms of trials dps, and it wasn't exactly the best to begin with. The standard nerf means our dots will do less damange. Plus trap nerf etc.... so even with a harder whip DK's lose out overall.

    As for pvp... Gapcloser? A non-gimmick-y heal?
    He's the healer Tamriel deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hurt his tank. Because he can heal them to full. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful rejuvinator. A Cloaked Healer.

    @Omfgitsbatman PC/NA
    Ticktick-Argonian Nightblade Healer/Magicka DPS
    Tinytick- Imperial DK Tank
    Wuches Y'Shaur- V16 High Elf Sorc Magicka DPS
    Ticktator- Dunmer DK Magicka DPS
    Tick Head- Dark Elf Magicka NB DPS

    GM:
    Mercs Of Sovngarde (EP/NA): AA (HM), HRC (HM), VSO (HM), VDSA, VMSA complete
    Vet Maw 4/5

  • Moglijuana
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    Bashev wrote: »
    So dragon blood now. 40k magika...pop DB whilst at 20k magika and heal for 6600? About right? But it can crit...so up to a 9k heal..oddly though the more you spam it the bigger the heal.
    You forgot the battle spirit!

    Ah yes battle spirit... cool so the biggest heal I'll ever get will be around 11k....and it'll be the last spell I cast before I run out of magika and die anyway...

    #dissapointed.

    LOL. #True
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    DK is dead, RIP
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Saint_Bud wrote: »
    No reason to slott this in pvp. People ask for gabcloser, a real heal instead burning embers and inhale.
    But yes mdk get fireleap after 2 years of asking.
    But this doesent matter, cyro will die fast with this patch.

    For pve endgame dd role it looks good, but for pve quest&co its same as for pvp

    DK actually took a hit in terms of trials dps, and it wasn't exactly the best to begin with. The standard nerf means our dots will do less damange. Plus trap nerf etc.... so even with a harder whip DK's lose out overall.

    As for pvp... Gapcloser? A non-gimmick-y heal?

    Gained 8% damage from using an inferno. That's actually made magblade minor beserk useless.
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  • Hutch679
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    Bashev wrote: »
    So dragon blood now. 40k magika...pop DB whilst at 20k magika and heal for 6600? About right? But it can crit...so up to a 9k heal..oddly though the more you spam it the bigger the heal.
    You forgot the battle spirit!

    Ah yes battle spirit... cool so the biggest heal I'll ever get will be around 11k....and it'll be the last spell I cast before I run out of magika and die anyway...

    #dissapointed.

    Lmao this.

    Arrrgggghhhh I need a heal, oh I used my last bit of magicka to stay alive. Sweet half health! Damn, only got to 49% health and that templar was spamming radiant destruction on me from 33 yards out of my reach because he dodged my gap closer.

    *logs off*

    *changes discs to a different game*
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