combine Morrowind, Oblivon and Skyrim into Tamriel

jaye63 · January 2017

Just like the title says... remaster all of the games and add them as expansions into ESO.

susmitds · January 2017

Combine also the thousands of bugs while you are at it, zose!

jaye63 · January 2017

susmitds wrote: »

Combine also the thousands of bugs while you are it, zose!

Always a forum troll available to offer nothing but doom and gloom

JD2013 · January 2017

If they have Skyrim areas, Morrowind areas etc it wold make no sense to put the old games in. They will have new quests and people as this is the second era of Tamriel, and Skyrim takes place 1000 years in the future.

jaye63 · January 2017

JD2013 wrote: »

If they have Skyrim areas, Morrowind areas etc it wold make no sense to put the old games in. They will have new quests and people as this is the second era of Tamriel, and Skyrim takes place 1000 years in the future.

So this is where expansion and creativity come in. There are tons of dwemmer ruins in Skyrim. Why not have some actual functioning ones? There are huge swaths of the world map that are unoccupied. Take the lore of 4 games and get creative man.

Matching the games themselves to fit exactly into Tamriel.... bad idea. Game time moves more rapidly than real time. Development man.... development. And insurance of a continuing game. I would rather that than a half hearted ES6 that horrible.

Vaoh · January 2017

You're in luck.

Much of Oblivion is contained within Cyrodiil and The Gold Coast.

Morrowind took place on Vvardenfell. The massive zone of Vvardenfell will eventually come to ESO - we've datamined a ton of info on it

Skyrim not so much. It is extremely popular and contains snow. It's be a great DLC location once they've released the 4 eventual DLC zones we already know about (Murkmire, Vvardenfell, Clockwork City, and Spiral Skein aka Mephala's Realm).

Either way The Rift and Eastmarch both take place is Skyrim so there's still a decent amount of Skyrim in ESO.

jaye63 · January 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

You're in luck.

Much of Oblivion is contained within Cyrodiil and The Gold Coast.

Morrowind took place on Vvardenfell. The massive zone of Vvardenfell will eventually come to ESO - we've datamined a ton of info on it

Skyrim not so much. It is extremely popular and contains snow. It's be a great DLC location once they've released the 4 eventual DLC zones we already know about (Murkmire, Vvardenfell, Clockwork City, and Spiral Skein aka Mephala's Realm).

*looks to the sky thru joyful tears* THERE IS A GOD!

Browiseth · January 2017

because new things are scary and i only want to see the same things i've already seen

or i dunno maybe eso could be its own game thats always a possibility

no it's elder scrolls and elder scrolls only functions off of its own nostalgia value go back to cod you're not a real fan

ok bye

Acrolas · January 2017

No to the original games, yes to revising the original soundtracks. Literally any activity in this game can be elevated just by playing Peaceful Waters or Caprice behind it. If they don't reprise those (and other tracks from TES3) for Vvardenfell I will never ever understand why.

Waffennacht · January 2017

Acrolas wrote: »

No to the original games, yes to revising the original soundtracks. Literally any activity in this game can be elevated just by playing Peaceful Waters or Caprice behind it. If they don't reprise those (and other tracks from TES3) for Vvardenfell I will never ever understand why.

Im looking for to clock work city etc and also hope the music has such things... yes...

TheShadowScout · January 2017

jaye63 wrote: »

Just like the title says... remaster all of the games and add them as expansions into ESO.

You are saying, combine the american independence war, the french revolution and the napoleonic wars into an "Viking Raider themed game" expansion???

Because that's roughly how much time will have to pass between second-era ESO and those third and fourth era settings, lore-wise!

As for the places... there you may get more joy!
Some are there (Cyrodil and Gold Coast are paret of the TES:Oblivion map, Eastmarch and The Rift are TES:Skyrim regions, and Mournhold has already appeared in TES:Morrowind-Tribunal), the rest will someday come... probably not as extensive as they were in those solo games, because MMO & technical limitations... but Vvardenfell from TES:Morrowind is coming, and sooner or later they will add the other parts of cyrodil we had in TES:Oblivion and the other parts of skyrim we explored in TES:Skyrim.
And I for one will be eager to see how they envision all those places back in ESOs second era... will this or that be here already, and in what form? Does the ministry of truth already float over Vivec city? Is the bardic college of solitude already founded? How is Solstheim looking in this era? Is the Topal bay suitable as vacation spot or not? That sort of things

Vaoh · January 2017

Acrolas wrote: »

No to the original games, yes to revising the original soundtracks. Literally any activity in this game can be elevated just by playing Peaceful Waters or Caprice behind it. If they don't reprise those (and other tracks from TES3) for Vvardenfell I will never ever understand why.

I'm glad there are others who do this

AzuraKin · January 2017

jaye63 wrote: »

Just like the title says... remaster all of the games and add them as expansions into ESO.

why? we are a 1000 years before the games time period. it would make absolute zero sense.

Stovahkiin · January 2017

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

Vaoh · January 2017

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Stovahkiin · January 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

idk · January 2017

JD2013 wrote: »

If they have Skyrim areas, Morrowind areas etc it wold make no sense to put the old games in. They will have new quests and people as this is the second era of Tamriel, and Skyrim takes place 1000 years in the future.

This is the appropriate response. Wrong part of the timeline.

AzuraKin · January 2017

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

fresh playthrough? what you have a 1990s computer or something? that game doenst work on modern computers at least not playably.

KochDerDamonen · January 2017

AzuraKin wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

fresh playthrough? what you have a 1990s computer or something? that game doenst work on modern computers at least not playably.

DOSBox, you can find precompiled launchable copies of Arena and Daggerfall on the UESP wiki (I would link but, google, and not the topic of the thread)

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There's such a big fat time gap between the events of ESO and other titles in TES, pretty much everything barring long-standing monuments and ruins would have to be scrapped. Really all they would be doing is taking the map of known Dwemer/Ayleid/Other ruins and putting them in those spots, and then doing all the work they would have done on an entirely fresh design from there. Even Elves are pretty much guaranteed dead in this time difference, no returning NPCs. Quests couldn't be recycled without either being pointlessly vague and uninteresting, or being entirely reworked and essentially new anyhow.

Final Verdict? I would be happy to see the whole of Tamriel fleshed out map-wise, but looking to the singleplayer titles does not help much other than the placements of ruins and mountains on the map.

AzuraKin · January 2017

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

fresh playthrough? what you have a 1990s computer or something? that game doenst work on modern computers at least not playably.

DOSBox, you can find precompiled launchable copies of Arena and Daggerfall on the UESP wiki (I would link but, google, and not the topic of the thread)
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There's such a big fat time gap between the events of ESO and other titles in TES, pretty much everything barring long-standing monuments and ruins would have to be scrapped. Really all they would be doing is taking the map of known Dwemer/Ayleid/Other ruins and putting them in those spots, and then doing all the work they would have done on an entirely fresh design from there. Even Elves are pretty much guaranteed dead in this time difference, no returning NPCs. Quests couldn't be recycled without either being pointlessly vague and uninteresting, or being entirely reworked and essentially new anyhow.

Final Verdict? I would be happy to see the whole of Tamriel fleshed out map-wise, but looking to the singleplayer titles does not help much other than the placements of ruins and mountains on the map.

dude yes i know about dosbox and the game is unplayable. you move 1 fram every 10s at max dosbox frame speedup. and that was on a 2006 built economy computer. worse on windows 7/10 devices.

KochDerDamonen · January 2017

AzuraKin wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

fresh playthrough? what you have a 1990s computer or something? that game doenst work on modern computers at least not playably.

DOSBox, you can find precompiled launchable copies of Arena and Daggerfall on the UESP wiki (I would link but, google, and not the topic of the thread)
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
There's such a big fat time gap between the events of ESO and other titles in TES, pretty much everything barring long-standing monuments and ruins would have to be scrapped. Really all they would be doing is taking the map of known Dwemer/Ayleid/Other ruins and putting them in those spots, and then doing all the work they would have done on an entirely fresh design from there. Even Elves are pretty much guaranteed dead in this time difference, no returning NPCs. Quests couldn't be recycled without either being pointlessly vague and uninteresting, or being entirely reworked and essentially new anyhow.

Final Verdict? I would be happy to see the whole of Tamriel fleshed out map-wise, but looking to the singleplayer titles does not help much other than the placements of ruins and mountains on the map.

dude yes i know about dosbox and the game is unplayable. you move 1 fram every 10s at max dosbox frame speedup. and that was on a 2006 built economy computer. worse on windows 7/10 devices.

Emulation is heavily dependent on your CPU, I know a lot of people skimp in that department when building their machine since more modern titles stress your GPU moreso. If you have a more recent CPU there might be a technical issue.

But uhh, off topic.

AzuraKin · January 2017

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

fresh playthrough? what you have a 1990s computer or something? that game doenst work on modern computers at least not playably.

DOSBox, you can find precompiled launchable copies of Arena and Daggerfall on the UESP wiki (I would link but, google, and not the topic of the thread)
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
There's such a big fat time gap between the events of ESO and other titles in TES, pretty much everything barring long-standing monuments and ruins would have to be scrapped. Really all they would be doing is taking the map of known Dwemer/Ayleid/Other ruins and putting them in those spots, and then doing all the work they would have done on an entirely fresh design from there. Even Elves are pretty much guaranteed dead in this time difference, no returning NPCs. Quests couldn't be recycled without either being pointlessly vague and uninteresting, or being entirely reworked and essentially new anyhow.

Final Verdict? I would be happy to see the whole of Tamriel fleshed out map-wise, but looking to the singleplayer titles does not help much other than the placements of ruins and mountains on the map.

dude yes i know about dosbox and the game is unplayable. you move 1 fram every 10s at max dosbox frame speedup. and that was on a 2006 built economy computer. worse on windows 7/10 devices.

Emulation is heavily dependent on your CPU, I know a lot of people skimp in that department when building their machine since more modern titles stress your GPU moreso. If you have a more recent CPU there might be a technical issue.

But uhh, off topic.

lol when i built my desktop in 2010 which consequentially would not play arena, barely plays daggerfall, i put in the 2nd from the top in terms of cpu. trust me when i say, modern day computers are too fast to play the old games like arena. bethesda would need to remake the game for it to be viable to play on a modern machine.

Danikat · January 2017

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

Daggerfall was set in Highrock and Hammerfell and those are already in the game. We even have one of the same villains.

I've never played Arena but my understanding is that it takes place in cities and areas all around Tamriel and many of them are in the game already.

Stovahkiin · January 2017

AzuraKin wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

fresh playthrough? what you have a 1990s computer or something? that game doenst work on modern computers at least not playably.

Arena and Daggerfall run just fine on my 3.8 ghz processor and 950 gtx (although I've also run them with lower specs as well) so it certainly isn't that hard to run them nowadays.

JKorr · January 2017

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

fresh playthrough? what you have a 1990s computer or something? that game doenst work on modern computers at least not playably.

DOSBox, you can find precompiled launchable copies of Arena and Daggerfall on the UESP wiki (I would link but, google, and not the topic of the thread)
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
There's such a big fat time gap between the events of ESO and other titles in TES, pretty much everything barring long-standing monuments and ruins would have to be scrapped. Really all they would be doing is taking the map of known Dwemer/Ayleid/Other ruins and putting them in those spots, and then doing all the work they would have done on an entirely fresh design from there. Even Elves are pretty much guaranteed dead in this time difference, no returning NPCs. Quests couldn't be recycled without either being pointlessly vague and uninteresting, or being entirely reworked and essentially new anyhow.

Final Verdict? I would be happy to see the whole of Tamriel fleshed out map-wise, but looking to the singleplayer titles does not help much other than the placements of ruins and mountains on the map.

About the only two possibilities I can think of off-hand would be Mistress Dratha from House Telvanni, and Lord Fyr, and he isn't definite. Dialog you can get in Morrowind gives the impression that Dratha was around when Nerevar was. You are also told she's extended her life with necromancy, soooo....who knows?

Other than that, only the locations would be the same, and not much else. Just the changes between Windhelm and Riften in ESO and their counterparts in Skyrim should show they can't simply dump new versions of the single player games into ESO without a LOT of changes.

The upcoming content will, eventually, open a little more of the map. We'll have to wait and see [and datamine and nag and rant.....]

Danikat · January 2017

I suppose in theory it's possible they could re-create all 3 games within ESO. Either make up some story about a god or daedra sending you through time (hey, it'd explain why your character has no known past or any friends or family in those games) or simply require you to make a new character.

The biggest problem is it'd be a huge amount of work because they'd have to basically rebuild the entire thing from scratch and even with the quests written and the locations designed that's a huge amount of work. And for many people it wouldn't add any new content.

Many people here have already played through Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. Even if you haven't all 3 games are still available (you can even buy a bundle of all 5 previous TES games). So the only benefit would be better graphics and the dubious advantage of multiplayer in games that were never designed for it.

Personally I'd prefer them to spend that time and effort making something new.

AzuraKin · January 2017

JKorr wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

No love for Arena or Daggerfall here I see

I played a lot of Daggerfall but not much Arena.

Very old games! (but still cool)

Just started a fresh playthru of Arena today; your days are numbered, Jagar Tharn! :P

fresh playthrough? what you have a 1990s computer or something? that game doenst work on modern computers at least not playably.

DOSBox, you can find precompiled launchable copies of Arena and Daggerfall on the UESP wiki (I would link but, google, and not the topic of the thread)
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
There's such a big fat time gap between the events of ESO and other titles in TES, pretty much everything barring long-standing monuments and ruins would have to be scrapped. Really all they would be doing is taking the map of known Dwemer/Ayleid/Other ruins and putting them in those spots, and then doing all the work they would have done on an entirely fresh design from there. Even Elves are pretty much guaranteed dead in this time difference, no returning NPCs. Quests couldn't be recycled without either being pointlessly vague and uninteresting, or being entirely reworked and essentially new anyhow.

Final Verdict? I would be happy to see the whole of Tamriel fleshed out map-wise, but looking to the singleplayer titles does not help much other than the placements of ruins and mountains on the map.

About the only two possibilities I can think of off-hand would be Mistress Dratha from House Telvanni, and Lord Fyr, and he isn't definite. Dialog you can get in Morrowind gives the impression that Dratha was around when Nerevar was. You are also told she's extended her life with necromancy, soooo....who knows?

Other than that, only the locations would be the same, and not much else. Just the changes between Windhelm and Riften in ESO and their counterparts in Skyrim should show they can't simply dump new versions of the single player games into ESO without a LOT of changes.

The upcoming content will, eventually, open a little more of the map. We'll have to wait and see [and datamine and nag and rant.....]

while the life expectancy of elves has never been specified exactly, we do know they live hundreds of years and many theorize their lifespan is roughly 10x that of humans which is the normalcy of most universe's elves lifespans.