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Are you guys ever going to provide a defense to God Beam?
TheLordSoth
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It gets really old and boring when 98% of pvp'er using god beam and just sit at range and drain u of life and nothing you can do about it.
Stam roll out often don't work, blocking don't work unless your a shield bearing player. Just my thoughts as a level 610 I am getting disgusted with the utter stupidity of this games mechanics. You guys create 10 million stun locks which cost enormous stam to break, only to have it reapplied over and over until you run out of stam, then get killed unable to fight back. What is the sense of trying to gain skill in using abilities and class. Only two things matter now. Stun and Stam.
Stam roll out often don't work, blocking don't work unless your a shield bearing player. Just my thoughts as a level 610 I am getting disgusted with the utter stupidity of this games mechanics. You guys create 10 million stun locks which cost enormous stam to break, only to have it reapplied over and over until you run out of stam, then get killed unable to fight back. What is the sense of trying to gain skill in using abilities and class. Only two things matter now. Stun and Stam.
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americansteel✭✭✭✭TheLordSoth wrote: »It gets really old and boring when 98% of pvp'er using god beam and just sit at range and drain u of life and nothing you can do about it.
Stam roll out often don't work, blocking don't work unless your a shield bearing player. Just my thoughts as a level 610 I am getting disgusted with the utter stupidity of this games mechanics. You guys create 10 million stun locks which cost enormous stam to break, only to have it reapplied over and over until you run out of stam, then get killed unable to fight back. What is the sense of trying to gain skill in using abilities and class. Only two things matter now. Stun and Stam.
there are alot of templars so its going to happen, do you really expect an execute being spammed by 3or more not be able to touch your health?
its like 4 executioners spammed on you, its going to do something.NO LONGER PLAYING ESO
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Graynh✭Or play a templar yourself, you can cleanse the execute debuff
they keep casting but you get no dmg, win win for you 0 -
Ankael07✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭White wabbit wrote: »98% lol doubt that
as a pvp guy I can confirm that. Im a sorcerer and I use jesus beam.
Jokes aside if youre a stamina you can equip bow and use venom arrow to counter RD effectively.
If magicka then you have crushing shock from destro staff.If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.3 -
OOJIMMY✭✭✭So many defenses buuuuuttt ima go out on a limb here and say l2p.
What are the defenses? Line of site, when half the time it still gets a tick or two? Purge? Then they just spam it till you can't purge? Bash them? While the range greater than any gap closer?
I play a magic templar every once in a while and know it's a bull skill0 -
FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
✭So many defenses buuuuuttt ima go out on a limb here and say l2p.
What are the defenses? Line of site, when half the time it still gets a tick or two? Purge? Then they just spam it till you can't purge? Bash them? While the range greater than any gap closer?
I play a magic templar every once in a while and know it's a bull skill
Ward spam, burst heal, ranged cc, defensive rune, crushing shock, any damage mitigation mechanic, everything mentioned followed by offence.PC | EU2 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cloak, purge, ranged cc, gap closer/bash or cc, ranged interrupts, block, break Los, add health, increase points in cp relevant to reducing the damage, increase spell resistance, shields, heal.
I'm sure more I have forgot. Plenty of ways to defend against it.1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well beam compared to any other execute is very strong.
I think it needs a range nerf so people can actually do something about the beam spammers because when they're 40m away at the moment there isn't much you can do.
It double dips into cp which basically means a free 10-15% flat dmg boost than other executes.
It has a morph which gives 20% more damage.
Goes through dodge roll
Scales at 50%
The first tick is instant, it's so fast that if you use it on someone at like 30% hp you don't even see the beam animation the person just dies.
40m~ range
Not sure if the first tick of beam is still 100% a crit, that is how it used to be though.
PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Czirne✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Cloak, purge, ranged cc, gap closer/bash or cc, ranged interrupts, block, break Los, add health, increase points in cp relevant to reducing the damage, increase spell resistance, shields, heal.
I'm sure more I have forgot. Plenty of ways to defend against it.
This is mostly true, but there is problem with LoS, or maybe its lag related problem. Very often i LoS behind tree or rock, but beam does not break immediately, rather tick one or two more times.
IMO it should be dodgable - every other execute in game is, right? And mostly, when you are gettign executed from 30+ metres, you cant bash, and blocking seems useless.I believe in lagless Cyrodiil!1 -
Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭OP is clearly new here, probably doesn't know about a search function or the plethora of these threads that were already made. I'm sure OP thought this was the first time anyone is bringing this up...0 -
Preston✭✭The good thing is there are loads of templars that spam it and it barely tickles unless used when opponent has low hp. I'm a pvp heal templar so I don't bother with it. I've had 4 on me at a time and easily healed though it while healing my whole group.K'tin Vayen - AD PVP healer with s**t damage. Sometimes I poke things with my stabby sticks2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The good thing is there are loads of templars that spam it and it barely tickles unless used when opponent has low hp. I'm a pvp heal templar so I don't bother with it. I've had 4 on me at a time and easily healed though it while healing my whole group.
lmaoPS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Preston✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
I'm HA with 5 impen, that *** barely knocks the dust off my armor, imo it doesn't need a nerfK'tin Vayen - AD PVP healer with s**t damage. Sometimes I poke things with my stabby sticks1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
I'm HA with 5 impen, that *** barely knocks the dust off my armor, imo it doesn't need a nerf
Ofc it doesn't when your a heavy armor s&b healbot.
When your spamming BoL (usually for no reason) and holding block nothing can really damage you.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...2 -
Preston✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »
I'm HA with 5 impen, that *** barely knocks the dust off my armor, imo it doesn't need a nerf
Ofc it doesn't when your a heavy armor s&b healbot.
When your spamming BoL (usually for no reason) and holding block nothing can really damage you.
spamming bol=death for a healers group when he runs out of magicka. Perma block=death for the healer when he's out of stam. BoL is the last layer of heals, after springs, ritual, and rapid regen. Spamming as a healer gets you nowhere in pvp. It's a great panic heal though
K'tin Vayen - AD PVP healer with s**t damage. Sometimes I poke things with my stabby sticks1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »
I'm HA with 5 impen, that *** barely knocks the dust off my armor, imo it doesn't need a nerf
Ofc it doesn't when your a heavy armor s&b healbot.
When your spamming BoL (usually for no reason) and holding block nothing can really damage you.
spamming bol=death for a healers group when he runs out of magicka. Perma block=death for the healer when he's out of stam. BoL is the last layer of heals, after springs, ritual, and rapid regen. Spamming as a healer gets you nowhere in pvp. It's a great panic heal though
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Springs? Really a full zerg healer?PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Preston✭✭yeah man, made for large groups, kagrenacs, transmutation and troll kings, it's great with a coordinated group. Resto ulti just when they gather to EoTS, then hunker down and heal. the *** out of the group Edit: Springs is awesome for magicka regen in pvp, combine with resto attacks and you regen sooo fast Edited by Preston on January 1, 2017 5:32PMK'tin Vayen - AD PVP healer with s**t damage. Sometimes I poke things with my stabby sticks0
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Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Cloak, purge, ranged cc, gap closer/bash or cc, ranged interrupts, block, break Los, add health, increase points in cp relevant to reducing the damage, increase spell resistance, shields, heal.
I'm sure more I have forgot. Plenty of ways to defend against it.
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭yeah man, made for large groups, kagrenacs, transmutation and troll kings, it's great with a coordinated group. Resto ulti just when they gather to EoTS, then hunker down and heal. the *** out of the group Edit: Springs is awesome for magicka regen in pvp, combine with resto attacks and you regen sooo fast
Why am i having a conversation about beam with a guy whose only character is a magicka templar and who only runs around pvp in zergs spamming heals.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
Preston✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »yeah man, made for large groups, kagrenacs, transmutation and troll kings, it's great with a coordinated group. Resto ulti just when they gather to EoTS, then hunker down and heal. the *** out of the group Edit: Springs is awesome for magicka regen in pvp, combine with resto attacks and you regen sooo fast
Why am i having a conversation about beam with a guy whose only character is a magicka templar and who only runs around pvp in zergs spamming heals.
wrong on 2 counts:
1. It's not my only character
2. PVP healing is far from just "spamming" heals, if that's how you do it, you're doing it wrong. It requires a massive amount of situational awareness and prioritizing.
But as you wanna be the rude *** who is automatically dismissive when someone tries engaging in a conversation and brings up valid points, then jog on, sausage tiitsEdited by Preston on January 1, 2017 6:01PMK'tin Vayen - AD PVP healer with s**t damage. Sometimes I poke things with my stabby sticks8 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »yeah man, made for large groups, kagrenacs, transmutation and troll kings, it's great with a coordinated group. Resto ulti just when they gather to EoTS, then hunker down and heal. the *** out of the group Edit: Springs is awesome for magicka regen in pvp, combine with resto attacks and you regen sooo fast
Why am i having a conversation about beam with a guy whose only character is a magicka templar and who only runs around pvp in zergs spamming heals.
wrong on 2 counts:
1. It's not my only character
2. PVP healing is far from just "spamming" heals, if that's how you do it, you're doing it wrong. It requires a massive amount of situational awareness and prioritizing.
But as you wanna be the rude *** who is automatically dismissive when someone tries engaging in a conversation and brings up valid points, then jog on, sausage tiits
No.. pvp healing isn't hard, you spam heals the end? Especially in a zerg.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's not a CC. So just heal through it. If you die just to JB you're just bad.
... Serious?
Beam is the only execute i bother taking notice of if i'm abobe like 50% hp. Because if any other execute was being spammed at that hp value they i'd ignore them because it would do nothing.
However if it's beam they there is going to be a problem because all it takes is someone rando dmg to bring me to 50% or a cc and it's over.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Cloak, purge, ranged cc, gap closer/bash or cc, ranged interrupts, block, break Los, add health, increase points in cp relevant to reducing the damage, increase spell resistance, shields, heal.
I'm sure more I have forgot. Plenty of ways to defend against it.
This is mostly true, but there is problem with LoS, or maybe its lag related problem. Very often i LoS behind tree or rock, but beam does not break immediately, rather tick one or two more times.
IMO it should be dodgable - every other execute in game is, right? And mostly, when you are gettign executed from 30+ metres, you cant bash, and blocking seems useless.
Im pretty darn sure the range is 28 meters. This is the same range as many ranged cc and interrupts. I do agree that there are times that beam goes through walls and rocks, but this is true of an channeled ability in pvp. That is not a beam problem.0 -
Paneross✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »It's not a CC. So just heal through it. If you die just to JB you're just bad.
... Serious?
Beam is the only execute i bother taking notice of if i'm abobe like 50% hp. Because if any other execute was being spammed at that hp value they i'd ignore them because it would do nothing.
However if it's beam they there is going to be a problem because all it takes is someone rando dmg to bring me to 50% or a cc and it's over.
Sounds like you need to play more defensively when your health gets low. I get beamed @ 20% all the time and I still live.1 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »It's not a CC. So just heal through it. If you die just to JB you're just bad.
... Serious?
Beam is the only execute i bother taking notice of if i'm abobe like 50% hp. Because if any other execute was being spammed at that hp value they i'd ignore them because it would do nothing.
However if it's beam they there is going to be a problem because all it takes is someone rando dmg to bring me to 50% or a cc and it's over.
Sounds like you need to play more defensively when your health gets low. I get beamed @ 20% all the time and I still live.
Flat out lie. Unless you're playing against people using mix match gear they pick up from questing. Average health in PvP is 25k, 20℅ is 5k. If you get beamed there you're dead 99℅ of the time.
It needs a range nerf. If you want to execute me, you should have to be in the fight with me, not 30+m away.Edited by Brrrofski on January 3, 2017 7:26AM3 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »It's not a CC. So just heal through it. If you die just to JB you're just bad.
... Serious?
Beam is the only execute i bother taking notice of if i'm abobe like 50% hp. Because if any other execute was being spammed at that hp value they i'd ignore them because it would do nothing.
However if it's beam they there is going to be a problem because all it takes is someone rando dmg to bring me to 50% or a cc and it's over.
Sounds like you need to play more defensively when your health gets low. I get beamed @ 20% all the time and I still live.
Flat out lie. Unless you're playing against people uding mix match gear they pick up from questing. Average health in PvP is 25k, 20℅ is 5k. If you get beamed there you're dead 99℅ of the time.
It needs a range nerf. If you want to execute me, you should have to be in the fight with me, not 30+m away.
28 meters. Besides, any execute at 25% or less should kill you in one hit. It is an execute. Above 25% sure it hits fine, but so long as I play defensively you will be alright.
What about impale, I don't have to be in your face to use that. What about poison injection, I don't have to be in your face for that. Poison injection ticks hard at low health too, plus I can keep hammering on you while it ticks.1
