Maximam Magica and Spell Damage

khandakar.faisal · December 2016

ESO Fighters, Good day
Is maximum Magica increase my Spell Damage? Say 30,000 magica and Spell Damage 2016 in My Character Menu, Without the Champion Point.
My Attack is only base on Distraction Staff Weapon. Or does it has something to do with Weapon damage also?

Sorry for 2 query. Need some guide from ESO Champions.

And Thanks.

Bryanonymous · December 2016

Redacted. I'm actually not sure.

FloppyTouch · December 2016

Max magic does not increase ur spell power on the character sheet but it does increase the amount of damage you do with magic skills

khandakar.faisal · December 2016

Yes, It do increase the amount of damage, still does it anything to do with spell damage and DPS? very curios.
Also in my character menu my spell damage show 2061, is it very low? Also I put 18% in my Light and heavy attack with distraction staff and 16% in Magic damage In my Champion Point menu. So is my DPS ok?

pcar944 · December 2016

increasing your magicka does not increase your SPELL damage - it does increase damage of your magicka ABILITIES

you can have 2k spell damage and have as much as 51k+ magicka on a Nightblade with Necropotence set and be able to dish out good damage

your DPS really depends on your whole build, just having enough magicka or spell damage means nothing if you don't have a good rotation for your buffs - and your AOE's are just as important as Single Target

MalakithAlamahdi · December 2016

It doesn't add spell damage, so you won't see it in the stats screen, however:

10 magicka equals roughly 1 spelldamage, so it does add extra damage and effect shields (shields don't get effected by spellpower however).

Let's say you have 2.000 spelldamage and 40.000 magicka, this means you'll have the damage of about 2.400 spelldamage. Do keep in mind that this extra damage from max magicka is not buffed by major sorcery.

Chelo · December 2016

It just increase the dmg tooltip of your Magicka Skills... So you should check tooltips...

Erasure · December 2016

Distraction Staff?

Yes, more magicka will make your spells stronger.
No, more matters than just your staff. Glyphs for magic or Spell Damage help, Set bonuses help, buffs from friends and curses to the enemy can help too.
No, Weapon Power is for Stamina skills.

Minalan · December 2016

MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »

It doesn't add spell damage, so you won't see it in the stats screen, however:

10 magicka equals roughly 1 spelldamage, so it does add extra damage and effect shields (shields don't get effected by spellpower however).

Let's say you have 2.000 spelldamage and 40.000 magicka, this means you'll have the damage of about 2.400 spelldamage. Do keep in mind that this extra damage from max magicka is not buffed by major sorcery.

1. Your math is off mate. If you're trying to decide between 300 spell damage on a Julianos suit, and say 5000 max magicka from another set, the other set is worth 500 spell damage equivalent.

Julianos has one max magicka bonus worth roughly 100 more spell damage for 400 total (not counting crit).

2. Max magicka isn't affected by major sorcery. Just.. everything else:
Might of the Guild Passive
Racial Bonuses
Undaunted Bonus
Blue CP
Set bonuses
Mage light
Bound Aegis
That NB passive that gives 8% max magicka.

3. Some defenses like shield strength scale with max magicka.

MalakithAlamahdi · December 2016

Minalan wrote: »

MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »

It doesn't add spell damage, so you won't see it in the stats screen, however:

10 magicka equals roughly 1 spelldamage, so it does add extra damage and effect shields (shields don't get effected by spellpower however).

Let's say you have 2.000 spelldamage and 40.000 magicka, this means you'll have the damage of about 2.400 spelldamage. Do keep in mind that this extra damage from max magicka is not buffed by major sorcery.

1. Your math is off mate. If you're trying to decide between 300 spell damage on a Julianos suit, and say 5000 max magicka from another set, the other set is worth 500 spell damage equivalent.

Julianos has one max magicka bonus worth roughly 100 more spell damage for 400 total (not counting crit).

2. Max magicka isn't affected by major sorcery. Just.. everything else:
Might of the Guild Passive
Racial Bonuses
Undaunted Bonus
Blue CP
Set bonuses
Mage light
Bound Aegis
That NB passive that gives 8% max magicka.

3. Some defenses like shield strength scale with max magicka.

Yea, it was a very rough estimation to give the idea. Might be 15-20 Magicka = 1 spellpower. I remember reading the exact calculation somewhere on the forums long ago but I can't really remember.

I meant that you won't benefit more from major sorcery if you get your damage from max magicka, as it buffs the actual spelldamage stat and not your damage overal. So more spelldamage = more benifit from this buff.

I also meant that shields are scaled off of max magicka and not spelldamage, so if you are a sorc for instance that relies on shields you might wanna stack in more max magicka instead of spelldamage.

For the OP:

What I forgot to add: The weapon damage stat might be a bit confusing, it's the same as spellpower but for all stamina abilities instead. This will of course also buff your light and heavy attacks with all the melee weapons and bows, but not with the staffs. Staffs are effected by spellpower.

Masel · December 2016

Double post

Izaki · December 2016

@MalakithAlamahdi @Minalan For most skills in the game 10.46 max magicka = 1 spell damage.
This value however isn't static and changes with each active ability. You can find all the skill coefficients on UESP wiki. Check out the Sorcerer Arithmagic post, there are a lot of very useful links and information.

I always laugh at the sorcs who are sitting with 39k magicka and a lot of spell damage. As long as your max magicka is high enough, you don't need more than 2.7k spell damage.

Masel · December 2016

The formula to calculate the tooltip damage of skills is a*Max magicka +b*spell damage + c, where b/a is usually 10.5, that means that 10.5 points in magicka will convert to 1 spell damage for the skill.
The ratio differs for, E.g. Heavy attacks, where the ratio is 40.5, which means that for them, spell damage is much more important than max magicka. b is 0 for Shields, so they only scale off of max magicka, with "a"being 0,36 for empowered ward, so empowered ward Shields you for 36% of your max magicka.
So basically, a and b determine the weight of max magicka and spell power in the basic power of the skill. The values are different from skill to skill, but the conversion ratio is more important anyway because it determines whether you'd be better off putting more into magicka or spell damage, depending on your skill setup.
The exact coefficients calculated by linear regression over ingame observations can be found here: http://esoitem.uesp.net/viewSkillCoef.php

Izaki · December 2016

^ that's the link I was talking about

khandakar.faisal · December 2016

Many Thanks everyone. As far I can tell, If I increase my Magica, my damage increase. I have checked this in practical in game. for example, before increase, Damage Show 4000!, after increase Magica, shows 5000!. just don't know why sometime it shows 16000!.
So it is good to have more magica.

darthsithis · December 2016

Imma try math!

So elemental blockade cast with 40k max magick and 3900 spell power

$1= (.0249883 x 40000) + (.26267 x 3900) - .535192 = 2022.464 damage per tick

that right? Also, should your max magic / sd ~ equal to the ratio always? My 40000/3900 is. Just wondering if this is the sweet spot, as it is the inverse of the coefficient ratio.

pizzaow · December 2016

Here is another link that does most of the math for you; it's the skill browser you're used to, but the damage numbers change as you change the max magic/spell damage numbers:
http://esoitem.uesp.net/viewSkills.php

Xvorg · December 2016

pizzaow wrote: »

Here is another link that does most of the math for you; it's the skill browser you're used to, but the damage numbers change as you change the max magic/spell damage numbers:
http://esoitem.uesp.net/viewSkills.php

And it's up to date

khandakar.faisal · January 2017

Just wonder, is Distraction Staff also anything to do with Weapon Damage Critical (Precise Strike) or Physical Damage (Mighty)!!! I meant only on Distraction Staffs.