Haven't bought anymore since release. Gonna keep it that way.

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

There should be a title we can get in game if you have never opened a crown crate.

"The unsuckered" has a nice ring to it.

You can always just put something in your signature...

I hope its the oposite, that they take money earned from crowncrates and invest in a long therm quality game.

This is just smart, theres lots of people who doesnt know what to do with their money and not to mention whales. I know one guy in Neverwinter who've spent 7k on the game, less than in year, that is.

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

There should be a title we can get in game if you have never opened a crown crate.

"The unsuckered" has a nice ring to it.

You can always just put something in your signature...

So how do i become a member of never bout a crown club? Is there a code for the current date and time or do you have to update that value every day?

It is incredibly simple. All you need to do is never have purchased a Crown Crate, and keep it that way. With that simple action, you can live the rest of your life as a member! There are no dues, and no other membership requirements. You don't even have to tell anyone about your deviant behavior.

The potential ranks of our membership are absolutely stunning. There are, literally, billions of people, dead and alive, who qualify for membership. Sadly, in these modern times, it can be more difficult to find those who are dedicated to this simple ideal, but we estimate there are still billions of people today who could be members. Could you be one of them?

Did I mention that Lifetime membership is FREE?

There is one catch though. This club lacks forgiveness. If you fall off the wagon, even once, you are no longer a member, and cannot ever be a member again. We expect dedication from our members. They must stand strong against the Crown Crates.

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

GrumpyMuffin wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Let me just get out my salt repellent and put on my goggles before this (anagram alert!) hits the fan...

PSA:
If you buy crown crates, you are part of the reason ESO will continue lacking actual new content in the future. If nobody purchased the crates, then ZoS would not make money off of them, and they would have to come up with another way. Perhaps they would be forced to release new content in order to bring in revenue (either through direct purchase or subs).

So if you purchase the crates, you are sending a message that the crates are a viable way to earn revenue. It's just a business, and you play a crucial role letting the supplier know what you demand.

While I agree, I would also posit that if sales start going down, then the reasons for HAVING to purchase them will be increased. More and more items will appear in there rather than the crown store. Unfortunately I do not see a great correlation between crown crates and lack of content. We had a sub for a long time and went pretty much a year without any new content. The game is being run by accountants these days. In terms of $ per man hour, I would guess that Crates are by far the most profitable, then the shop and finally a very long way back DLC

And you know what, in that case I too would agree the crates would be needed at that point. If I wanted to continue playing the game, and the only way they could keep it going was to sell trinkets in gamble crates, then I would be all for it.

You're right, the gaming industry is run by accountants (I am one of them), and this is the age of the microtransaction. But every decision carries an opportunity cost. That cost would be much higher if people didn't just buy them up while there is much more game to develop. That will obviously slow game development because they can of course make more money from the crates.

But people gotta have their shinies. And that's what is ruining the game.

So, yeah, games like Clash of Clans and Clan Royale have shifted the paradigm a bit more now, just check this out:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/19/technology/super-mario-run-nintendo-share-price/

Games like "Camelot Unchained" areserved being developed with a sub as the central model, but I think it is taking its time to develop its own engine to be very stable so they can deliver and not have to worry about constantly fixing a half-baked product.

STEVIL wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Let me just get out my salt repellent and put on my goggles before this (anagram alert!) hits the fan...

PSA:
If you buy crown crates, you are part of the reason ESO will continue lacking actual new content in the future. If nobody purchased the crates, then ZoS would not make money off of them, and they would have to come up with another way. Perhaps they would be forced to release new content in order to bring in revenue (either through direct purchase or subs).

So if you purchase the crates, you are sending a message that the crates are a viable way to earn revenue. It's just a business, and you play a crucial role letting the supplier know what you demand.

Then thats cool cuz i did the crown crate thing and am Ok with it continuing.

I am so glad you pointed out to me and the others who did not know before you said it that our buying products from retailers encourages them to produce more of what we buy.

Such... insight.

as usual, you call it out.
I know my resolve against crown crates won't last. Eventually, I'll cave.
took me a year to sub, craft bag finally got me. lol

Buying crates only gives ZoS incentive to allocate their resources (especially valuable artists) to crate resources. If you like crates, all the more power to you, but understand that any game that has released a RNG crate model has always had a significant increase in time between content updates post-crate release. Buying them only encourages the company to continue down that path.

I have better things to spend my money, and my crowns, on. I'll keep my sub and focus on buying things off the store directly. You can have your atro mounts. (And the mudballs that I will happily sling at anyone that passes me with one.)

Ahnastashia wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Let me just get out my salt repellent and put on my goggles before this (anagram alert!) hits the fan...

PSA:
If you buy crown crates, you are part of the reason ESO will continue lacking actual new content in the future. If nobody purchased the crates, then ZoS would not make money off of them, and they would have to come up with another way. Perhaps they would be forced to release new content in order to bring in revenue (either through direct purchase or subs).

So if you purchase the crates, you are sending a message that the crates are a viable way to earn revenue. It's just a business, and you play a crucial role letting the supplier know what you demand.

I absolutely agree. Making things for gamble crates will quickly take the forefront of what ZOS does if people do not send a clear message that, that's not going to work for them and they would prefer content over gamble crates. Unfortunately, every time I see someone else with a storm atronach mount, I feel like there is little hope to turn back the tide of people more than willing to spend their money on crates because... reasons! They don't seem to see the long term picture, and just want the cool mount. I get that they can spend their money on whatever they wish to, I get their wanting the cool mount... (I want it too, but won't cave to buying the crates to get it), but how they spend their money does impact future behavior on ZOS's part.

So frequently people who play MMOs seem to forget that we are the customers... and the game company is simply that... a company that relies on our financial support to stay open.

Ok but here's the thing you can not control how someone spends their own money. We have no idea what they are spending that revenue on, and I doubt they would tell us. If the games becomes one big cash grab then players will move onto the next thing.

As of yet none of us can say what that revenue is going towards, with happens if they en up fixing the game with update 13? All we got were small snipettes of what is to come. I bought a 15 pack, didn't get much so I won't buy anymore untill they either up the gem conversion rate, add more substance, ie no potions and meals, or up the chances of apex rewards. That is my decision to make. And to those that spent $300 to get what they wanted, that was their decision.

You nor anyone else in here can control someone else's money. And if boils down to a question of ethics for any individuals they are free to complain or leave. Insinuating that it is somehow a group of consumers is the reason for the evil crown crates and their continuation is a false statement.

While we are the customers in an mmo, they have no obligation to remove anything from their game because we complain about something. How many of the people that are calling ZOS greedy for introducing crown crates went and bought a 5000 crown elk? Nothing in the crates gives anyone a competitive advantage and it's too soon to say that they aren't using that money to better the game.

K

I can spend my money on whatever I want so if that makes me part of the problem then oh well.

I see a lot more atro mounts and funny wizard hats in-game than I see forum posts complaining about crates.

I think people are aware of what they are contributing to, and are fine with it.

And all the forum psa's in the world aren't going to change anything.

for effort tho

Stopnaggin wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Let me just get out my salt repellent and put on my goggles before this (anagram alert!) hits the fan...

PSA:
If you buy crown crates, you are part of the reason ESO will continue lacking actual new content in the future. If nobody purchased the crates, then ZoS would not make money off of them, and they would have to come up with another way. Perhaps they would be forced to release new content in order to bring in revenue (either through direct purchase or subs).

So if you purchase the crates, you are sending a message that the crates are a viable way to earn revenue. It's just a business, and you play a crucial role letting the supplier know what you demand.

I total agree with you and what i think is even more fun in all this that people have gut to whine that the think the Great Elk cost so much when i have see people run around with mount from crown crates which cost 400 gem which mean that those people have spend more then 4500 crown to get those mount

I so love the dubble stand on this forum people can whine about event mount that cost so much but the dont care the spend 5000+ crown to the crown crates just to get some gem.

You know we can flip that argument right? How about the people that went nut over crown crates are now riding an elk?

I am hoping a lot of people buy the Elk. It is expensive, yes, but it has nothing to do with Crown Crates. It is the lesser evil, and they are taking advantage of that. Expensive, but at least we know how much it costs and can make an honest decision about whether to buy it. If it, or a cousin, shows up in Crown Crates, we have no idea what it costs, in Crowns.

Yea and I am perfectly fine with them making money off the crates.

You should actually be thanking the people buying crates. Now you will get housing absolutely free.

If you had used that salt repellant on yourself you could have saved yourself from making this thread. No need in continuing to be salty as the crates are here to stay.

So get over it, nobody is forcing you to buy them. Oh and btw the idea that they will only add in crown crate items has already been shattered.

Housing anyone?