Would you like to see heavy armor sets that increase raw spell damage?
Savos_Saren
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I'm a big fan of heavy armor sets (because I love to solo regular dungeons and tank vet dungeons)- but I find that there's an imbalance of heavy armor sets that increase weapon damage vs spell damage.
There are a couple of Heavy armor sets that have equivalent (or somewhat similar counterparts) such as Dreugh King Slayer and Rattlecage... or Hundings Rage and Julianos. And I know there's sets that deal flame damage (strangely, there's more weapon-damage sets that proc flame damage)... but I'd like to see some sort of raw spell damage increasing sets. For instance- I'd like to see magicka equivalents of:
Armor of Truth
Armor of the Veiled Heritance
Beserking Warrior
Knight's Errant
Ravager
Seventh Legion Brute (one of my personal favorites)
Warrior's Fury
These weapon-based sets provide raw weapon power (not secondary damage like disease or poison). So, I'd like to see magic-based sets that provide raw spell power (not secondary damage like flame or shock).
EDIT: To clarify- I'm talking about the 5th piece bonus that usually gives a larger amount of weapon damage... not the small, incremental 2-4pc bonuses.
Edited by Savos_Saren on December 28, 2016 5:34PM There are a couple of Heavy armor sets that have equivalent (or somewhat similar counterparts) such as Dreugh King Slayer and Rattlecage... or Hundings Rage and Julianos. And I know there's sets that deal flame damage (strangely, there's more weapon-damage sets that proc flame damage)... but I'd like to see some sort of raw spell damage increasing sets. For instance- I'd like to see magicka equivalents of:
Armor of Truth
Armor of the Veiled Heritance
Beserking Warrior
Knight's Errant
Ravager
Seventh Legion Brute (one of my personal favorites)
Warrior's Fury
These weapon-based sets provide raw weapon power (not secondary damage like disease or poison). So, I'd like to see magic-based sets that provide raw spell power (not secondary damage like flame or shock).
EDIT: To clarify- I'm talking about the 5th piece bonus that usually gives a larger amount of weapon damage... not the small, incremental 2-4pc bonuses.
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Would you like to see heavy armor sets that increase raw spell damage? 50 votes
Yes- it's good to have diverse builds.
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No- there's plenty of magick-based sets out there.
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Maybe- as long as they're equal counterparts.
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Other- please explain.
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Taternater✭✭✭Other- please explain.My characters are stamblades in medium armor doing weapon damage. They should be focusing on medium armor for stamblades doing weapon damage exclusively. In fact they should nerf all the armor sets except the ones I wear, which is a mix of viper and red mountain. Better yet nerf all armor except for just mine.1
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Chelo✭✭✭✭✭No- there's plenty of magick-based sets out there.LOL, its totally the opposite, the heavy armor meta needs to end now...6
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✭✭✭LOL, its totally the opposite, the heavy armor meta needs to end now...
I get where you're coming from... you're talking about just PVP-only. I'm looking at the broad spectrum of the game... both PVP and PVE. As you can see in my initial post- I mainly use heavy armor for soloing normal dungeons and tanking vet dungeons.
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runagate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Armor of Truth should be a magicka set anyway, considering the classes and skills that set enemies off balance.
Then again, only a Way of Air/Senche user would ever put 120 pts into Atronach for Tactician (set enemies off balance when you dodge roll their attacks) and if you had the 75 point Butcher passive you'd want to combine it with Kvatch, Undaunted Unweaver, Sergeant or Sunderflame. It's pretty hard to theorycraft something that makes these sets useful.1 -
Elder_III✭✭✭✭There are 8 HEavy Armor Sets (at least) already that increase Spell Damage....
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Heavy+Armor+Sets
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HatchetHaro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Rattlecage is as "raw spell damage" as heavy armor gets.
I'd say there are plenty of dropped sets already. We don't need more.Edited by HatchetHaro on December 27, 2016 6:57AMBest Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it
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✭Other- please explain.remove every set on heavy armor which increasing any damage type, this is just sick on pvp with heavy armors, only exception will be crafted sets because they are just crafted
EDIT: this is damn heavy armor for tanks...not for dpsEdited by Edziu on December 27, 2016 10:44AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭HatchetHaro wrote: »Rattlecage is as "raw spell damage" as heavy armor gets.
I'd say there are plenty of dropped sets already. We don't need more.
Was just thinking about this. Even tho it isn´t a specific number of spelldamage this was the first set that came to mind.remove every set on heavy armor which increasing any damage type, this is just sick on pvp with heavy armors, only exception will be crafted sets because they are just crafted
EDIT: this is damn heavy armor for tanks...not for dps
Why shouldn´t a tank be able to deal damage in pvp??? You´re mixing up a tank role in PvE (which is to aggro and tank mobs, not to do damage) and PvP (where you need to be able to heal, survive/tank and do damage). Nothing wrong with heavy armor in pvp.2 -
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✭Other- please explain.Set diversity is something ZOS should strive to.
BUT!
Heavy Armor is not and should not be a source of great damage. They did the mistake to make some of the existing HA sets too powerful while giving players a much higher sustain.
I think you have many options already, and can make a magicka HA character very powerful.
For example:- use a magicka set on jewelry pieces and weapons
- craft a HA magicka set
The HA meta needs to be toned down, not the other way around. Make HA set more versatile and utility based, less powerful.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No- there's plenty of magick-based sets out there.Rattlecage.
Of of the 3 of out the 4 possivle set bonuses give spell dmg.
What more could you want?PS4 EU DC
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✭Other- please explain.@Qbiken for me no, for me heavy armor on pvp isnt fine while you in heavy armor with tankly build you can have still burst to be able to kill anyone who isnt a full tank build where medium or light armor is much more squishy and have not much higher damage in compare to this heavy armor1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No- there's plenty of magick-based sets out there.leepalmer95 wrote: »Rattlecage.
Of of the 3 of out the 4 possivle set bonuses give spell dmg.
What more could you want?
Agreed.
The OP is asking for something that already exists. It also gives major sorcery, increasing spell power even further by a percentage.
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This^ nearly every tier boosts spell damage...which is why I'm annoyed that this doesn't come in light armor.HatchetHaro wrote: »Rattlecage is as "raw spell damage" as heavy armor gets.
I'd say there are plenty of dropped sets already. We don't need more.
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✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Rattlecage.
Of of the 3 of out the 4 possivle set bonuses give spell dmg.
What more could you want?
Agreed.
The OP is asking for something that already exists. It also gives major sorcery, increasing spell power even further by a percentage.
@leepalmer95 @Jeremy @HatchetHaro
I think you're missing the point of this. I understand that Rattlecage gives raw spell damage and I compare it as the magicka equivalent to Dreugh King Slayer in the original post.... just like I compare Julianos as the equivalent to Hunding's Rage.
What I'm asking for is armor sets that are magicka based that would have somewhat comparable procs to the the sets I listed in the original post. For instance:
Armor of the Veiled Heritance:
2pc bonus: Adds 129 Weapon Damage
3pc bonus: Adds 1935 Physical Resistance
4pc bonus: Adds 688 Weapon Crit
5pc bonus: When you deal damage- you have a 10% chance to increase your weapon damage by 400 for 5 seconds.
This set's 5pc bonus increases raw weapon damage... it doesn't increase poison damage or disease damage. So, a magicka equivalent to it would be:
Armor of the Flying Spaghetti Monster:
2pc bonus: Adds 129 Spell Damage
3pc bonus: Adds 1935 Spell Resistance
4pc bonus: Adds 688 Spell Crit
5pc bonus: When you deal damage- you have a 10% chance to increase your spell damage by 400 for 5 seconds.
Thus, this set's 5pc bonus would increase raw spell damage just like Veiled Heritance increases raw weapon damage.
Edit: I went ahead and clarified my original post. I see how that can be confusing... I was mainly focusing on the 5th piece bonus that usually procs to give a large amount of damage.Edited by Savos_Saren on December 28, 2016 5:38PMWant to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »Like Elf Bane?
Elf Bane's 5pc proc increases fire ability duration by a couple of seconds. It doesn't increase raw spell damage.Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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