Please consider re-designing Argonian Architecture

zakfrickb14_ESO · December 2016

Altering the original post regarding argonian large houses - please ZOS, consider redesigning what argonian buildings look like? Because right now they look like the worst race to choose. They're armor, while appropriately themed, looks comical. Everyone else's racial armor looks great, but argonians look like cartoon characters (ESPECIALLY the heavy stuff).

Buy the biggest problem i have is the architecture (though i hesitate to even call it that). Why the heck are they making their homes and villages out of mud and feces? Why do all of their buildings look terrible and gross to be around? I understand tiny huts being like this, but EVERY building? Why don't they have any stone structures like their old temples? Why don't they have ANYTHING that looks nice?

I mean your even give the large house a stone wall boundary, but still make the building inside made of mud? Why is the wall more permanent looking than the keep?? Look at the houses of the other races and then look at the Argonians and tell me they are equally impressive...

Please, show some respect to the lizards.

you gave them they're own dungeon, why not improve their building skills a bit? At least some carved stone walls?

Naughty_Ryder · December 2016

zakfrickb14_ESO wrote: »

Anyone else got any requests/incites/concerns with the homestead update?

I... Want a log cabin.

Flak · December 2016

I'm afraid the large house is also a mudhut:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309582/homestead-video-all-large-houses-invaded-behind-the-walls

Maybe they will add some Aztec House later but then it's probably Crownstore-exclusive.

zakfrickb14_ESO · December 2016

Flak wrote: »

I'm afraid the large house is also a mudhut:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309582/homestead-video-all-large-houses-invaded-behind-the-walls

Maybe they will add some Aztec House later but then it's probably Crownstore-exclusive.

This... is very disappointing.

Dracindo · December 2016

Agreed. I mean, look at the Khajiit house. I'm going for that:

Nice and impressive outdoors
bigger and more impressive house

While that Argonian house... It looks like a medium house, really. They should at least give us Argonians more space for building outdoors. Like, maybe that we can have our own little Hist tree and a guar farm. That our houses may look like crap, but that there is no garden more beautiful and more natural than ours. I think we should have at least have that right.

Small edit: If this isn't going to be changed, it better be the cheapest house in the game. Not going to invest more than 100K on the Argonian small house and all it's upgrades.

greylox · December 2016

Do houses have to be race specific? Bit racist lol

LMar · December 2016

Some of the larger Argonian houses have Ayleid ruin leftovers. But the Argonians gave up building those pyramids (Xanmeer) a long time ago. Nothing is permanent in this word, so the Hist do not encourage building something that might form the illusion of something permanent. Change is always happening, the river always flows, mud ever churns.

However, moving into an old ruined Xanmeer could be a thought. A lot of Lukiul who want "normal" houses could use the other races houses!

Dracindo · December 2016

greylox wrote: »

Do houses have to be race specific? Bit racist lol

Well, I wouldn't call a Dwemer an Argonian house, obviously. Each race their own ways.

If you meant that you can only have a house matching your character's race, then wrong. You can get every house style with every race.

zakfrickb14_ESO · December 2016

LMar wrote: »

Some of the larger Argonian houses have Ayleid ruin leftovers. But the Argonians gave up building those pyramids (Xanmeer) a long time ago. Nothing is permanent in this word, so the Hist do not encourage building something that might form the illusion of something permanent. Change is always happening, the river always flows, mud ever churns.

However, moving into an old ruined Xanmeer could be a thought. A lot of Lukiul who want "normal" houses could use the other races houses!

I just wanted something more structurally attractive to show that argonians are as good as any other race, not just a bunch of primitive mudhut builders

. I mean the large house even has a stone wall, yet the building itself is mud? Wtf?

Mrs_Malaka · December 2016

What's on the outside shouldn't matter. It's what's on the inside that counts.
The More You Know =*

Enslaved · December 2016

I understand why Saxhleel folk choose to live in mudhuts and not in their sacred temples dedicated to the Hist or Sithis or both. Same as regular ppl don't live inside chapels/mosques/synagogues etc.

And don't forget all that mud. Altmers use mud to celebrate few days per year, Saxhleel must feel their entire life is a celebration

LMar · December 2016

zakfrickb14_ESO wrote: »

LMar wrote: »

Some of the larger Argonian houses have Ayleid ruin leftovers. But the Argonians gave up building those pyramids (Xanmeer) a long time ago. Nothing is permanent in this word, so the Hist do not encourage building something that might form the illusion of something permanent. Change is always happening, the river always flows, mud ever churns.

However, moving into an old ruined Xanmeer could be a thought. A lot of Lukiul who want "normal" houses could use the other races houses!

I just wanted something more structurally attractive to show that argonians are as good as any other race, not just a bunch of primitive mudhut builders . I mean the large house even has a stone wall, yet the building itself is mud? Wtf?

Argonians are as good as any race, mudhats don't indicate a level of sophistication. Consider this, would you rather spend your time building a prison to "protect you from the elements outside" or relax in the swamp with your body already fine tuned to live in it with no problems?

If you want to look at it from another perspective, mud buildings in a swamp make more sense than other materials. Plenty of material and suited to the damp and heat. Wooden structures rot, stone structures sink and grow all over with moss etc. The Argonians are sophisticated enough to build for the local environment.

Darkonflare15 · December 2016

But the Argonian mud houses are so cozy in the inside. That is all that matters to Argonian trio.

Jim_Pipp · December 2016

It is confirmed that they are working on a number of crown store only houses - it is implied that dwemer and daedrik homes will be available and I expect an argonian pyramid temple is on their list.

Dracindo · December 2016

As an Argonian, I can live with the style of the currently planned houses for Argonians. However:

The large house looks really small in comparisson to other houses. So, not alot indoor decoration options.
The outdoors also looks very limited.

I already said it before and I'll say it again, but Argonian large houses should get alot of space outdoors where we can build a lovely swamp garden, with a little hist tree to place our eggs and room for our Guars. If not, then why not give the large Argonian house as the first house you get after a quest? Then you can call it a gift from the Argonians, so they'll get more respect in this world. Seriously.

Most awesome race gets all the hate out of jealousy.

zakfrickb14_ESO · December 2016

LMar wrote: »

zakfrickb14_ESO wrote: »

LMar wrote: »

Some of the larger Argonian houses have Ayleid ruin leftovers. But the Argonians gave up building those pyramids (Xanmeer) a long time ago. Nothing is permanent in this word, so the Hist do not encourage building something that might form the illusion of something permanent. Change is always happening, the river always flows, mud ever churns.

However, moving into an old ruined Xanmeer could be a thought. A lot of Lukiul who want "normal" houses could use the other races houses!

I just wanted something more structurally attractive to show that argonians are as good as any other race, not just a bunch of primitive mudhut builders . I mean the large house even has a stone wall, yet the building itself is mud? Wtf?

Argonians are as good as any race, mudhats don't indicate a level of sophistication. Consider this, would you rather spend your time building a prison to "protect you from the elements outside" or relax in the swamp with your body already fine tuned to live in it with no problems?

If you want to look at it from another perspective, mud buildings in a swamp make more sense than other materials. Plenty of material and suited to the damp and heat. Wooden structures rot, stone structures sink and grow all over with moss etc. The Argonians are sophisticated enough to build for the local environment.

Oh, no, i get the mudhuts design from that perspective - but I'm saying the argonian "large house" isnt on Par with the other races large houses. If anything, it's a medium dwelling at best. And aesthetically its very jarring, because you have this ancient carved and beautifully overgrown stone wall... protecting a mudhut. Either make the walls out of mud or the house out of stone. My argument is to change the larger, or "grander" houses to be something more permanent and decorative.

Right now the housing for argonians just looks very poor compared to other races, and i feel like it reflects poorly on the race, whom many people already hate for some reason. I just want SOMETHING about them to be visually pleasing, and right now they got nothing. Their large house is comparable to a,medium dwelling of other races.

Betheny · December 2016

The Argonian houses kind of look like giant piles of poop.

zakfrickb14_ESO · December 2016

Betheny wrote: »

The Argonian houses kind of look like giant piles of poop.

Yes... while this makes sense for small and medium dwellings, i think the larger buildings should be something more permanent. Or at least more structurally designed. Like square walls maybe... a stucco house?

Betheny · December 2016

zakfrickb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

The Argonian houses kind of look like giant piles of poop.

Yes... while this makes sense for small and medium dwellings, i think the larger buildings should be something more permanent. Or at least more structurally designed. Like square walls maybe... a stucco house?

The slapped together mud styles wouldn't be structurally sound at larger scales, you'd need to make the mud into mud bricks and yes, build proper walls to support the roof.