Thoughts about ESO light festival

Abeille · December 2016

Well, ZOS is a little new on this "seasonal event" kind of thing. This is the first year they are doing something more than just putting special offers in the Crown Store.

Maybe next year we get a few more quests. The Imperials are in need of one

Number_51 · December 2016

Completed all nine quests in just under 40 minutes last night. That includes an extra trip from Breda, and back, to the high waterfall snow bear plunge because I managed to hit land and didn't realize the objective wasn't completed. I already have all the achievements so I was skipping optionals. Also have stacks of the fish in the bank so didn't need to do the actual fishing. Four skill points in the Locksmith passive meant I was probably less then 35 seconds from wayshrining in to wayshrining out of Rawl'kha.

All said, it takes me less time to complete all nine quests on 1 character then it does to complete all the writs I do on 5 characters. Really liking the event. If I had one complaint it's that we're forced to kill anything. I know, I'm messed up, and that's what the game is about, but I have a character I'm leveling with zero kills. That means I can't complete the optional objective on the High Elf Orphan quest, and can't even start the Orc quest.

Elsonso · December 2016

rebornhunter25 wrote: »

So I enjoy this to a degree mainly because it's ESO of course ha.. and the fact that they do try and come out with new and different events which I'm sure is a daunting task on its own .. but why not make each day for the festival different quests to do ? Doing the same quests over and over and over again every 24 hours is so repetitive and annoying yet I feel with this event is a real love/hate relationship .. also I feel I am going to miss out of the achievement for lockpicking al chests within 35 secs or less just because my skill level is not high enough.. I don't understand why we couldent group up and tackle it anyways let me know guys

Why not make a different quest for each day? People cannot play every day, so this makes it possible to do the event in a single day, at least for the basic part. The whole achievement can be done on a single character in a couple days.

Why make them daily quests? So that people who want to collect all of the items that are available have the opportunity to do that, if they wish.

Karius_Imalthar wrote: »

I've been enjoying the dailies for the most part but I have the same criticism for New Life Festival as I did for Witches Festival. It doesn't really have a festive feel to it. It would have been nice if some of the art assets found throughout the cities could have been temporarily altered to give some seasonal decorations. Maybe holly on fireplace mantles or snowy doormats or something.

It is as festive as you allow it to be, and a whole lot more festive than the Witches Festival. You don't have to run through Stonefalls, quickly dance, then move on. You don't have to rush from place to place to perform in Stormhaven. You can sit in Betnikh and party all day, if you want. You can dance around the fires in Eastmarch for as long as you want.

Most people are making a bee-line through the quests to get them done as fast as possible. This is not really required. Only two quests actually have timers on them. For the rest, you can spend as much time doing the New Life Festival stuff as you want.

Here are some suggestions.
1. Hang around Skywatch and bean players with mudballs. Not only is this fun, but it adds to the festive nature of the event for others.
2. Hang out in Stonefalls, Betnikh, and Alcaire later in the event, when fewer people are doing quests, so that individuals that come in can get the "with other players" stuff accomplished. It's more festive if there are other players around.
3. Hand out free Twice-Spiked Ale in Betnikh or free bait in Shadowfen.

As for the art, all I can say is that this is not a Christmas-In-Tamriel Festival. We will see how it ends, but right now I am pleased with the level of restraint. This is festive, without being Christmas, and that makes it refreshing and new.

P.S. - There is one art change they can do. I have realized that I am tired of looking at those two guys in front of the waterfall watching the spear fisherman.

Darkestnght · December 2016

I tired out a couple of the quest and found them to take too much time away from what I really want to be doing. I am skipping this festival it is just no fun having to travel so many places.

Katahdin · December 2016

Darkestnght wrote: »

I tired out a couple of the quest and found them to take too much time away from what I really want to be doing. I am skipping this festival it is just no fun having to travel so many places.

Lol its 9 quests total and they take about an hour to do for the achieves. Just do it on your main/achieve character and be done

Or, you have 3 weeks, do one character a day and get them all done.

Darkonflare15 · December 2016

I find it funny that people rush through the content in a grinding manner without treating it like a festival. Then complain that it boring, too much of a grind, and that it is not a real festival. I never really can understand players who play this game most of the time.

Elsonso · December 2016

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

I find it funny that people rush through the content in a grinding manner without treating it like a festival. Then complain that it boring, too much of a grind, and that it is not a real festival. I never really can understand players who play this game most of the time.

I shudder to consider that some of them might be among the people that race from Dolmen to Dolmen all day long, or ran from boss to boss in some dungeon or delve for 2 weeks during Witches Festival.

Number_51 · December 2016

In my defense, and I know no one pointed the finger at me, I was only mentioning that it could be done in 40 minutes or less. I got a late start last night and was rushed, but otherwise I have been taking my time and enjoying the festival.

On the second day I forgot to make some Twice-Spiked Ale for an alt and asked if anyone had any in zone chat. Someone wanted to charge me 1k, so I swapped chars, made 40, and came back handing them out for close to an hour. That actually put me in a festive mood and I've been thoroughly enjoying it since. Other favorites include extended performances at Alcaire Castle, midnight raves in Ebonheart, and Fishmas (handing out free fish) in Shadowfen.

rebornhunter25 · December 2016

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

I find it funny that people rush through the content in a grinding manner without treating it like a festival. Then complain that it boring, too much of a grind, and that it is not a real festival. I never really can understand players who play this game most of the time.

Well then maybe eso should make it more festive ? With lights and enemies dressed up in Christmas hats .. a visit from Santa everyday that gives you a rare item you don't already have..

mmm.. they could just seriously have done more .. it feels rushed and doesn't feel like a festival

mandrakethebard_ESO · December 2016

rebornhunter25 wrote: »

So I enjoy this to a degree mainly because it's ESO of course ha.. and the fact that they do try and come out with new and different events which I'm sure is a daunting task on its own .. but why not make each day for the festival different quests to do ? Doing the same quests over and over and over again every 24 hours is so repetitive and annoying yet I feel with this event is a real love/hate relationship .. also I feel I am going to miss out of the achievement for lockpicking al chests within 35 secs or less just because my skill level is not high enough.. I don't understand why we couldent group up and tackle it

lehran wrote: »

You can group for all the speed challenges, but you can also complete them solo. I've done both the lockpicking and the signal fires solo, so I know it's doable. For lockpicking the easiest way is to force one or more of the locks, but that requires good legerdemain; otherwise get good at the minigame and hope that the pin positions are near the top of the lock instead of the bottom. For the signal fires, a buff that increases your move speed helps a lot; if your class doesn't have one or you don't have one specced, a rogue's escape draught should be sufficient to do it (as that's what I used).

The point is that the achievements are not necessarily meant to be something you grind out (though some are)... they're meant to be your reward for achieving something. For example, both speed challenges can be done without resorting to grouping or waiting for the perfect setup... you just need to do it once without making any mistakes. (I'm not completely certain about the Sprint, I've used a speed enhancer each time, but the lockpicking can be done even if the pins are in very low positions I can attest)

As for changing up the quests each day, I personally feel that would be a very bad idea. As a casual player it would be impossible for me to access all of the material if I had to play every day in order to catch a quest when it shows up. If you're getting bored with the holiday event quests just go do something else. Anyway, after the first day (carefully obtaining the achievements and fishing a lot) I found that it only took me about 15 min to do the daily holiday quests the next day... leaving out the Mudball thing, Skywatch is just kind of annoying this month.

Arciris · December 2016

Number_51 wrote: »

Completed all nine quests in just under 40 minutes last night. That includes an extra trip from Breda, and back, to the high waterfall snow bear plunge because I managed to hit land and didn't realize the objective wasn't completed. I already have all the achievements so I was skipping optionals. Also have stacks of the fish in the bank so didn't need to do the actual fishing. Four skill points in the Locksmith passive meant I was probably less then 35 seconds from wayshrining in to wayshrining out of Rawl'kha.

All said, it takes me less time to complete all nine quests on 1 character then it does to complete all the writs I do on 5 characters. Really liking the event. If I had one complaint it's that we're forced to kill anything. I know, I'm messed up, and that's what the game is about, but I have a character I'm leveling with zero kills. That means I can't complete the optional objective on the High Elf Orphan quest, and can't even start the Orc quest.

I happen to have a character that i'm leveling with 0 Kills too and was also disappointed my little pacifist will not be able to wear the Magnanimous title that would have fit her so well.
I really don't understand why, in a festival celebrating Life, we have to kill stuff in the first place. Of course, it had to be the Orcs and the Altmers ruining it :P

Tasear · December 2016

It was, fun. I sorta like fishing more.. and can pick a chest better. Also playing with mud, fire and skinny dipping was funny. 5 stars on design here!

pattyLtd · December 2016

+ Implementing new quests for everyday of the event isn't reasonable (development takes time)
+ I'm terrible at lockpicking but the 35secs achievement becomes very easy if you do the quest grouped with a friend that you share the quest with. I only had to lockpick the simple quest while my friend did the other two. Achievement completed.

I did not know that the xp buff went away if you drinked it before it ran out .... ty for that info

Tasear · December 2016

Arciris wrote: »

Number_51 wrote: »

Completed all nine quests in just under 40 minutes last night. That includes an extra trip from Breda, and back, to the high waterfall snow bear plunge because I managed to hit land and didn't realize the objective wasn't completed. I already have all the achievements so I was skipping optionals. Also have stacks of the fish in the bank so didn't need to do the actual fishing. Four skill points in the Locksmith passive meant I was probably less then 35 seconds from wayshrining in to wayshrining out of Rawl'kha.

All said, it takes me less time to complete all nine quests on 1 character then it does to complete all the writs I do on 5 characters. Really liking the event. If I had one complaint it's that we're forced to kill anything. I know, I'm messed up, and that's what the game is about, but I have a character I'm leveling with zero kills. That means I can't complete the optional objective on the High Elf Orphan quest, and can't even start the Orc quest.

I happen to have a character that i'm leveling with 0 Kills too and was also disappointed my little pacifist will not be able to wear the Magnanimous title that would have fit her so well.
I really don't understand why, in a festival celebrating Life, we have to kill stuff in the first place. Of course, it had to be the Orcs and the Altmers ruining it :P

Silly group with someone and have them kill for you! Don't get your hands dirty.

Tai-Chi · December 2016

lehran wrote: »

You can group for all the speed challenges, but you can also complete them solo. I've done both the lockpicking and the signal fires solo, so I know it's doable. For lockpicking the easiest way is to force one or more of the locks, but that requires good legerdemain; otherwise get good at the minigame and hope that the pin positions are near the top of the lock instead of the bottom. For the signal fires, a buff that increases your move speed helps a lot; if your class doesn't have one or you don't have one specced, a rogue's escape draught should be sufficient to do it (as that's what I used).

Thanks for that last bit of info. I am only 1-2 sec out on getting the speed-run achievement. I never needed to use any "rogue's escape draught " before. That should do it for me.

Enslaved · December 2016

Coatmagic wrote: »

As an aside (cue sarcasm), kudos to ZoS for providing yet another such efficient way for griefers to do what they do best at the dye stations! (In case you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm referring to the Mudball Pouch)

Sorry, ZoS, but overall, coal in too many stockings afaic .
Try again next year, and put some actual thought into the size of your community ffs!

As if you need to dye stuff every 10 minutes.
As if you don't have saved presets for colors you would use.
As if there is need to use anything but Molag Bal black.

Arciris · December 2016

Tasear wrote: »

Arciris wrote: »

Number_51 wrote: »

Completed all nine quests in just under 40 minutes last night. That includes an extra trip from Breda, and back, to the high waterfall snow bear plunge because I managed to hit land and didn't realize the objective wasn't completed. I already have all the achievements so I was skipping optionals. Also have stacks of the fish in the bank so didn't need to do the actual fishing. Four skill points in the Locksmith passive meant I was probably less then 35 seconds from wayshrining in to wayshrining out of Rawl'kha.

All said, it takes me less time to complete all nine quests on 1 character then it does to complete all the writs I do on 5 characters. Really liking the event. If I had one complaint it's that we're forced to kill anything. I know, I'm messed up, and that's what the game is about, but I have a character I'm leveling with zero kills. That means I can't complete the optional objective on the High Elf Orphan quest, and can't even start the Orc quest.

I happen to have a character that i'm leveling with 0 Kills too and was also disappointed my little pacifist will not be able to wear the Magnanimous title that would have fit her so well.
I really don't understand why, in a festival celebrating Life, we have to kill stuff in the first place. Of course, it had to be the Orcs and the Altmers ruining it :P

Silly group with someone and have them kill for you! Don't get your hands dirty.

Unfortunately, group kills count as yours as well, which means you won't have a 0 kills in your achievements anymore

WhiteCoatSyndrome · December 2016

I've gotten the speed run on all my characters that I've run the quest with, even the ones with no speed boosts, and I'm honestly having trouble seeing why so many people have problems with it. Until I checked the achievements on a character who hadn't run it yet I didn't even realize there was a time limit on the achievement, it's that easy.

But some tips anyway:

--As was pointed out earlier, some potions can increase your speed - there are the Thief Trove versions and some you can craft yourself
--Slot and use Rapids
--Steed constellation Mundus
--Boost your Stamina so you can run for longer
--Learn where the fires are before hand so you don't lose time looking for them (hint: they're all on the roofs connected by bridges)
--Don't wait for the animation to finish before running off to the next fire (note that there IS a sweet spot you need to hit or the game won't recognize that you've done it)

But this, and the Five-Claw Guile quest are both completely doable even without any speed boosts (or lock-smashing perks for the Five-Claw Quest).

Enslaved · December 2016

Yeah, Five Claw Guile is fun, and compared to other events it does require at least minimum attention.
Water dipping one is boring, I welcomed cold snare as immersive but after 100 runs it is simply time consumer.
Orphan quest is 69 gold P2W Box quest, pretty fast.
Bergama is boring quest, but it was expected since Redguards are involved. At least we don't have to hear about Tu'wacca, that was pleasant surprise.
Alclaire is completely broken, and that made it boring one.
Mass murder fishing brought few lols, especially with ppl asking for master bait in zone chat.
Bethnik burping got old the second day I did it, would be slightly less annoying if we could stack wolves meat and wasp "honey" like we can do with fishes in Shadowfen.
Dancing. I tried everything I can to make it less tedious, like dancing on tables, dancing naked, dancing as pumpkin or werewolf lord. All I can say is that for some reason, elven races dances like rettarrddss. No offence, but they really do.
At last, quest that made many mud. I really want to kill guards in Skywatch. I mean, I get bounty every single day just for celebrating with others. They stripped me of my ill gotten possessions a few times just because I mudded them a little.
Damn you, Skywatch guards. Its a mudball event.

anadandy · December 2016

pattyLtd wrote: »

+ I'm terrible at lockpicking but the 35secs achievement becomes very easy if you do the quest grouped with a friend that you share the quest with. I only had to lockpick the simple quest while my friend did the other two. Achievement completed.

I grouped up with my Master Thief buddy and did the same

Number_51 · December 2016

Tasear wrote: »

Arciris wrote: »

Number_51 wrote: »

Completed all nine quests in just under 40 minutes last night. That includes an extra trip from Breda, and back, to the high waterfall snow bear plunge because I managed to hit land and didn't realize the objective wasn't completed. I already have all the achievements so I was skipping optionals. Also have stacks of the fish in the bank so didn't need to do the actual fishing. Four skill points in the Locksmith passive meant I was probably less then 35 seconds from wayshrining in to wayshrining out of Rawl'kha.

All said, it takes me less time to complete all nine quests on 1 character then it does to complete all the writs I do on 5 characters. Really liking the event. If I had one complaint it's that we're forced to kill anything. I know, I'm messed up, and that's what the game is about, but I have a character I'm leveling with zero kills. That means I can't complete the optional objective on the High Elf Orphan quest, and can't even start the Orc quest.

I happen to have a character that i'm leveling with 0 Kills too and was also disappointed my little pacifist will not be able to wear the Magnanimous title that would have fit her so well.
I really don't understand why, in a festival celebrating Life, we have to kill stuff in the first place. Of course, it had to be the Orcs and the Altmers ruining it :P

Silly group with someone and have them kill for you! Don't get your hands dirty.

You can't do that as you would get credit for the kill if you're grouped.

Elsonso · December 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

I've gotten the speed run on all my characters that I've run the quest with, even the ones with no speed boosts, and I'm honestly having trouble seeing why so many people have problems with it. Until I checked the achievements on a character who hadn't run it yet I didn't even realize there was a time limit on the achievement, it's that easy. But some tips anyway:

I have seen this statement a lot, and I admit that I was unaware that there were timed events until the 2nd or 3rd attempt. I just thought that the question about taking too long was idle banter. I read the text, but I misunderstood.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom ... A suggestion for the devs might be to mention the time limit in the text asking about what happens if I take too long. Something like, "I have to complete it in a certain amount of time? What happens if I take longer?"

BruceLeeroy91 · December 2016

Arciris wrote: »

Number_51 wrote: »

Completed all nine quests in just under 40 minutes last night. That includes an extra trip from Breda, and back, to the high waterfall snow bear plunge because I managed to hit land and didn't realize the objective wasn't completed. I already have all the achievements so I was skipping optionals. Also have stacks of the fish in the bank so didn't need to do the actual fishing. Four skill points in the Locksmith passive meant I was probably less then 35 seconds from wayshrining in to wayshrining out of Rawl'kha.

All said, it takes me less time to complete all nine quests on 1 character then it does to complete all the writs I do on 5 characters. Really liking the event. If I had one complaint it's that we're forced to kill anything. I know, I'm messed up, and that's what the game is about, but I have a character I'm leveling with zero kills. That means I can't complete the optional objective on the High Elf Orphan quest, and can't even start the Orc quest.

I happen to have a character that i'm leveling with 0 Kills too and was also disappointed my little pacifist will not be able to wear the Magnanimous title that would have fit her so well.
I really don't understand why, in a festival celebrating Life, we have to kill stuff in the first place. Of course, it had to be the Orcs and the Altmers ruining it :P

What about grouping up, letting the group get the kill?

Edit: Nevermind, seems to have been addressed on the second page which I did not read lol.