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Pve players, why don't you like PvP?
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't know, why it is so hard to understand, that a lot of players have no interest to fight other players or stay in any competition to them. This is not a matter of fear, it is just a lack of interest and if they would be forced to, they just wouldn't enjoy it at all. And that is ok, no reason to bash on them - as well as there is no reason to bash on those, who enjoy fighting each other or take part in competitive gameplay in PvE. Each to it's own, we do not have to agree on this matter.12 -
Mirelurk✭✭✭✭Let's see ...The PvP community is its own worst enemy.
Exhibit 1:Man I love kids like you do anything to defend your easy mode content. Maybe one day the big bad pvpers won't kill you.
Exhibit 2:Lmao right dude am sorry I don't like easy content like yourself.I never insulted you that would have caused me to be banned but hey I really don't care about what you think but as it is you just shows me that your another carebear pver who scared the big bad pvper will kill them and know that their not the best in the world.
Exhibit 3 (weirdly this one is an attempt to rebut the idea that PvPers can be toxic):The only person broken here is you kid.Its obvious but no person on these forum have told you to kill yourself so your lying just to make others look bad and prove you point that pvpers are toxic.Telling you to got gud isn't being toxic its telling you as it is get better at the game.If your struggling with a part of the game and learn how to do for example last boss of VMa that's you learning and getting better at the game.I know what your real issue is your a self entitled child who parents never told you no and given participation trophy's all your life.
I'm inclined to agree with Tandor.
Knights of Nirn | Daggerfall Covenant | PC | NA server
Swamplurk | V16 | Breton | Sorceror
Morass | V16 | Breton | Templar
Knightmire | V16 | Imperial | Dragonknight
Catagory | V9 | Khajit | Nightblade12 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Let's see ...The PvP community is its own worst enemy.
Exhibit 1:Man I love kids like you do anything to defend your easy mode content. Maybe one day the big bad pvpers won't kill you.
Exhibit 2:Lmao right dude am sorry I don't like easy content like yourself.I never insulted you that would have caused me to be banned but hey I really don't care about what you think but as it is you just shows me that your another carebear pver who scared the big bad pvper will kill them and know that their not the best in the world.
Exhibit 3 (weirdly this one is an attempt to rebut the idea that PvPers can be toxic):The only person broken here is you kid.Its obvious but no person on these forum have told you to kill yourself so your lying just to make others look bad and prove you point that pvpers are toxic.Telling you to got gud isn't being toxic its telling you as it is get better at the game.If your struggling with a part of the game and learn how to do for example last boss of VMa that's you learning and getting better at the game.I know what your real issue is your a self entitled child who parents never told you no and given participation trophy's all your life.
I'm inclined to agree with Tandor.
So am I. Peoples behavior speak volumes.1 -
svartorn✭✭✭✭✭
✭I quit going to Cyrodiil because the game is unplayable for me there. 10 minute loading screens any time I try to go anywhere and if I step out of the keep I get one-shotted by stealthed proctards or a 7000 man japanese zerg.
The game is broken and unplayable and I won't go back till ZOS fixes it.
Edit: and I know people are gonna say repair launcher or some other ***, but I've done that. Many times. Also deleted and reinstalled the game.Edited by svartorn on December 21, 2016 10:33PM0 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭In my opinion PVP in MMO's suck for a bunch of reasons.
Firstly : Lag. I'm in Australia so at best my ping is 250 to 300. Even when it's that "good" it'll randomly spike.
Secondly : Dying in Cyrodiil sucks. You have to ride for 5 minutes to get back to where you were last killed. When you add in the lag this is stupid and frustrating and very very boring.
Thirdly : MMO combat is not only unbalanced from a "class" point of view, it's unbalanced from a group size and gear perspective. Sure there is skill involved, but it never FEELS like it because numbers matter more.
Because of these reasons I don't enjoy the competitive aspects of an MMO.
I play Starcraft2 or CS:GO for competition instead, which actually has a level playing field, is NOT dependant on the gear you have, and if you ignore the possibility of cheaters, entirely come down to skill.
Both these games have match making which puts you against people of roughly equal skill and it's always equals number of players.
MMO's are easily the most unbalanced and unenjoyable arena for competitive online gaming.Edited by Tannus15 on December 21, 2016 10:56PM2 -
Stopnaggin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Let's see ...The PvP community is its own worst enemy.
Exhibit 1:Man I love kids like you do anything to defend your easy mode content. Maybe one day the big bad pvpers won't kill you.
Exhibit 2:Lmao right dude am sorry I don't like easy content like yourself.I never insulted you that would have caused me to be banned but hey I really don't care about what you think but as it is you just shows me that your another carebear pver who scared the big bad pvper will kill them and know that their not the best in the world.
Exhibit 3 (weirdly this one is an attempt to rebut the idea that PvPers can be toxic):The only person broken here is you kid.Its obvious but no person on these forum have told you to kill yourself so your lying just to make others look bad and prove you point that pvpers are toxic.Telling you to got gud isn't being toxic its telling you as it is get better at the game.If your struggling with a part of the game and learn how to do for example last boss of VMa that's you learning and getting better at the game.I know what your real issue is your a self entitled child who parents never told you no and given participation trophy's all your life.
I'm inclined to agree with Tandor.
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mvffins✭✭✭Simple:
I feel that PvE wise ESO is a very good MMO
I feel that PvP wise ESO is not a good MMO
ESO has the best quests, exceptional dungeon/boss fights (not the best, but still better than most), and enough content to keep me pre-occupied in PvE
My first impression of Cyrodiil however was....emptiness. And I'm not just talking about players, there wasn't enough resource nodes, and it just seemed like a vast wilderness with no mobs. Even the forts seemed vacant. In my opinion this emptiness is a bigger problem for PvP in ESO than balancing sets/skills.
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✭✭I just don't like being around a bunch of angry, toxic people. Mobs are much nicer to be around.5 -
Smitch_59✭✭✭✭✭Not only am I a strictly PVE player, I am mostly a SOLO PVE player. I guess this is because I've always preferred solo RPGs (not the least of which were the previous TES games). When ESO was announced, I swore I would never buy it. When they made it free-to-play, I finally decided to try it in spite of the fact that it's an MMO.
Been playing ESO for about a year and a half, and I have done precisely one group dungeon. Never done a trial. I've fought exactly one duel (which I won). I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've been to Cyrodiil. I guess when it comes to video games, I am very anti-social. I will join a bunch of folks to take down a world boss or a dolman, but that's different because I don't actually have to group for those.
As long as ZOS continues releasing new PVE content, I will keep playing. If not, I will probably get bored and eventually quit. Hopefully by then TES VI will be out so I can continue to get my solo TES fix.
By Azura, by Azura, by Azura!3 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not only am I a strictly PVE player, I am mostly a SOLO PVE player. I guess this is because I've always preferred solo RPGs (not the least of which were the previous TES games). When ESO was announced, I swore I would never buy it. When they made it free-to-play, I finally decided to try it in spite of the fact that it's an MMO.
Been playing ESO for about a year and a half, and I have done precisely one group dungeon. Never done a trial. I've fought exactly one duel (which I won). I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've been to Cyrodiil. I guess when it comes to video games, I am very anti-social. I will join a bunch of folks to take down a world boss or a dolman, but that's different because I don't actually have to group for those.
As long as ZOS continues releasing new PVE content, I will keep playing. If not, I will probably get bored and eventually quit. Hopefully by then TES VI will be out so I can continue to get my solo TES fix.
Can highly recommend doing some of the normal dungeons solo. Fungal Grotto 1 is a good one to start. A lot of the "group" dungeons can be solo'd and it would be a shame for you to miss out on some great content
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TX12001rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Here is a fact...
If you don't like PvE you don't like ESO because 95% of the content is PvE.
And that other 5% AKA the Minority Content is Boring as it is the same thing over and over again which now serves little to no purpose and hasn't changes since launch, the game would be better if they just removed that content from the game and recreated Cyrodiil into a fully fledged PvE Zone, If you want to fight each other you got duels for that.Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on December 22, 2016 5:00AM4 -
Volrion✭✭✭✭I PVP, and I do end-game group PVE.
Questing for me is too easy and the stories aren't engaging enough to hold me longer than two minutes. If I want story/immersion I'll go play a single player RPG or I'll watch a movie.
My only gripe with PVP is the lag and the imbalance it creates. I play from Japan so I'll always be at a disadvantage to a guy playing from Texas. But it is what it is. (WTB Oceana server).
Some people just don't have an interest in PVP and the intensity of it all. I have a friend who just collects everything in game. He doesn't like dungeons. Rarely PVPs with us. Whenever I log in he's always cruising around looking for collectibles and motifs etc.
I think the sad part about many of the comments I see here are that many of the complaints from people who have tried and don't enjoy it are L2P issues. Just like it took time to optimize your play style and build for end game PVE, PVP also takes time to figure it out, and it can be brutal trying to learn.
With that said, you should start in Black Water. There's no one shot builds in there. Make yourself tanky and get some high regen, you'll be fine.
Complaining about ganks etc. There are so many counters to being ganked these days. Just do the research and figure it out.
Everyone has access to the same gear, and everything has a counter. Most people who complain just want it all.
For example; I created a reactive Templar the other night to see what the fuss was about. I'm ungankable so far. Any one on one fight I just heal through everything they do until they give up. I play support buff/de-buff in small groups and it's really rewarding helping the team.
The drawback is that I can't really kill many people on my own.0 -
Vorkrunne✭✭✭I don't like PvP because I rather be the reason people triumph. I like helping people.
It's hard for me to enjoy something that puts someone else down.
I was never into games where someone wins and someone loses. I'm at my happiest when I am always having a positive impact on people.
I do engage in PvP in games that are FFA or Guild vs Guild. If there is someone out there who is a complete jerk, I enjoy killing them.
I simply don't enjoy killing other players without a *reason*
I don't PvP in games with factions because someone picking a dragon over a bird as their symbol doesn't exactly immerse me into enjoying killing them.
I need a reason like... a player decided to grief my low level friend. Or someone was harassing RPers. Or someone said something racist/homophobic. Then I can gleefully slaughter them without remorse ^^2 -
Volrion✭✭✭✭I don't like PvP because I rather be the reason people triumph. I like helping people.
It's hard for me to enjoy something that puts someone else down.
I was never into games where someone wins and someone loses. I'm at my happiest when I am always having a positive impact on people.
I do engage in PvP in games that are FFA or Guild vs Guild. If there is someone out there who is a complete jerk, I enjoy killing them.
I simply don't enjoy killing other players without a *reason*
I don't PvP in games with factions because someone picking a dragon over a bird as their symbol doesn't exactly immerse me into enjoying killing them.
I need a reason like... a player decided to grief my low level friend. Or someone was harassing RPers. Or someone said something racist/homophobic. Then I can gleefully slaughter them without remorse ^^
Just go in stealth and watch all those *** tea bagging your fallen brothers after a Zerg rolls over them... Motivation acquired
Edited by Volrion on December 22, 2016 6:23AM0 -
Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have chronic social anxiety from having spent nearly ten years stuck doing customer service, playing pvp makes my brain react as if I am litteraly about to die, my stress levels go so high it could theoretical give me a heart attack. This is because the primitively brain knows I'm playing a human and not just another story element. When you die in pvp you laugh it off, when I die my body dumps so much adrenaline I have to go to the doctor for a god dam sedative. I litteraly want to kill the other person, as in beat them to death with their own keyboard. No that is not an exaggeration.
Pve by contrast is essentially a story telling tool, I don't do vet dungeons because now all the stories can be done on normal. I like a certain amount of challenge, because it gives the world reality, but that simply cannot involve competing with other people in a battle of survival.3 -
Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sadly this topic almost only gets replies from people who don't like PvP.
Well, I do like the PvP. I love the castle sieges, the fighting the screaming and dying.
The PvE is also beautiful and atmospheric. But it is also bland, static and plain boring. If I didn't like the PvP that much I doubt I would stick with this game. Quest and story wise, SWTOR did a better job. Especially the part where you can co-op every quest. World-PvE wise I rather have a game like Vanguard was.
PvP might be a mess currenly but I hope they will fix that soon.
I play PvP since the early access days and I hardly came across toxicity from players. Most of them are very friendly. I find more toxicity when trying to do dungeons when you encounter lots of ragequiters and people whispers you about another members about how stupid they are. Hence the reason I only join guild groups to do pledges and this guild is PvP orientated and very very friendly.
Many times in cyrodill or IC when you encounter an enemy player and you do a /wave or /surrender you hardly get attacked.
I once ganked a heavy armor dude but I could not het past his defences. I could easily escape and avoid his fire whiplash. After my 2nd try we stood a few feet apart and he did a /laugh. I did a /bow and we parted ways. No stab in the back from both of us.
No, the PvP community here rules. Of course there are a few that might seem rude. But those are also in PvE, RP and IRL
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"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."2 -
Nyghthowler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Knootewoot wrote: »Sadly this topic almost only gets replies from people who don't like PvP.
Well, I do like the PvP. I love the castle sieges, the fighting the screaming and dying.
The PvE is also beautiful and atmospheric. But it is also bland, static and plain boring. If I didn't like the PvP that much I doubt I would stick with this game. Quest and story wise, SWTOR did a better job. Especially the part where you can co-op every quest. World-PvE wise I rather have a game like Vanguard was.
PvP might be a mess currenly but I hope they will fix that soon.
I play PvP since the early access days and I hardly came across toxicity from players. Most of them are very friendly. I find more toxicity when trying to do dungeons when you encounter lots of ragequiters and people whispers you about another members about how stupid they are. Hence the reason I only join guild groups to do pledges and this guild is PvP orientated and very very friendly.
Many times in cyrodill or IC when you encounter an enemy player and you do a /wave or /surrender you hardly get attacked.
I once ganked a heavy armor dude but I could not het past his defences. I could easily escape and avoid his fire whiplash. After my 2nd try we stood a few feet apart and he did a /laugh. I did a /bow and we parted ways. No stab in the back from both of us.
No, the PvP community here rules. Of course there are a few that might seem rude. But those are also in PvE, RP and IRL
This post got so many replies from the PvE player base because the OP called them out with the title. He or she wanted to know why PvE'ers don't like PvP. This wasn't a bash thread started by PvE players; for the most part the response' have been civil by both sides.
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Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nyghthowler wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Sadly this topic almost only gets replies from people who don't like PvP.
Well, I do like the PvP. I love the castle sieges, the fighting the screaming and dying.
The PvE is also beautiful and atmospheric. But it is also bland, static and plain boring. If I didn't like the PvP that much I doubt I would stick with this game. Quest and story wise, SWTOR did a better job. Especially the part where you can co-op every quest. World-PvE wise I rather have a game like Vanguard was.
PvP might be a mess currenly but I hope they will fix that soon.
I play PvP since the early access days and I hardly came across toxicity from players. Most of them are very friendly. I find more toxicity when trying to do dungeons when you encounter lots of ragequiters and people whispers you about another members about how stupid they are. Hence the reason I only join guild groups to do pledges and this guild is PvP orientated and very very friendly.
Many times in cyrodill or IC when you encounter an enemy player and you do a /wave or /surrender you hardly get attacked.
I once ganked a heavy armor dude but I could not het past his defences. I could easily escape and avoid his fire whiplash. After my 2nd try we stood a few feet apart and he did a /laugh. I did a /bow and we parted ways. No stab in the back from both of us.
No, the PvP community here rules. Of course there are a few that might seem rude. But those are also in PvE, RP and IRL
This post got so many replies from the PvE player base because the OP called them out with the title. He or she wanted to know why PvE'ers don't like PvP. This wasn't a bash thread started by PvE players; for the most part the response' have been civil by both sides.
Agree on that.
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"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
attackjet✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Sadly this topic almost only gets replies from people who don't like PvP.
Well, I do like the PvP. I love the castle sieges, the fighting the screaming and dying.
The PvE is also beautiful and atmospheric. But it is also bland, static and plain boring. If I didn't like the PvP that much I doubt I would stick with this game. Quest and story wise, SWTOR did a better job. Especially the part where you can co-op every quest. World-PvE wise I rather have a game like Vanguard was.
PvP might be a mess currenly but I hope they will fix that soon.
I play PvP since the early access days and I hardly came across toxicity from players. Most of them are very friendly. I find more toxicity when trying to do dungeons when you encounter lots of ragequiters and people whispers you about another members about how stupid they are. Hence the reason I only join guild groups to do pledges and this guild is PvP orientated and very very friendly.
Many times in cyrodill or IC when you encounter an enemy player and you do a /wave or /surrender you hardly get attacked.
I once ganked a heavy armor dude but I could not het past his defences. I could easily escape and avoid his fire whiplash. After my 2nd try we stood a few feet apart and he did a /laugh. I did a /bow and we parted ways. No stab in the back from both of us.
No, the PvP community here rules. Of course there are a few that might seem rude. But those are also in PvE, RP and IRL
Yeah I know exactly what your saying man. The pvp in this game is so dope because the community. Like, granted you always get those couple of scumbags who tbag or talk a bunch of trash, but it dosnt matter.
Its fun, I never really played in any of the big servers until I got capped. I played mostly in azuras star because right when I got to 160 the thieves guild dlc came out and they switched azuras to non cp. So it was just perfect timing, and I basically level to max cp just in cyrodiil, with the occasional dungeon or grind for gold.
I just can't stand pvp anymore, most servers are just dead now except for the few like haderus which is always population locked.
It's why in my opinion they need to introduce battlegrounds and arenas. Then they should just lower the population cap on the cyrodiil servers so people branch out into other servers so its not 50v50 zergfest 98% of the time. Smaller battles even 20v20 are always so much funner and way less laggy. I can't stand the lag in haderus, there was like no lag in azuras though it was so nice.0 -
LadyScarlett✭✭✭I am 60 and my husband is 65. We enjoy the game a lot and play together, PVE. We have no interest in PVP because we don't want to be yelled at by some young, faster than us, players. We have both had our fill of getting kicked out of groups, in the middle of a dungeon. Because of that, we stopped grouping with others.
I know some players have this down to an art, everything figured out mathematically. I respect that. To me this is just a game, something to do with my husband that we both enjoy. No stress, no drama, just plain fun.
It does get very frustrating when other people have little to no patience. We might not have the fastest reaction times but we have a lot of fun together. Guilds are helpful but many do PVP which leaves us behind. And then there are the elitists.
So simply put, we play PVE to have fun, when it stops being fun we will move on to something else.
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SickDuck✭✭✭✭✭While you are fighting your silly and pointless war, monsters and criminal scum terrorises the homeland. Someone has to deal with that.Holdviola - Khira'de Regalo - Lélekvadász - Used To Be An Adventurer - Zetor - Does-Not-Give-A-Duck - Lord Sugar - Tenar Arha - Da'rinka - Violent Moon - Extreme Runner2 -
Koensol✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It's fun reading all these posts claiming the PvP community is toxic and immature. Do yourselves a favor and take a wayshrine to Craglorn. You will see the elitism and condescending 'big dog pro players' dominating zone chat. Ask a simple question? Get told to read the *** patchnotes or l2p. Then the next 5 minutes is chat exploding with people that are all too eager to capitalize on the opportunity to make fun of someone. Stuff like "Yea, reading patchnotes give you cancer!" and "Did you know that patchnotes decreases you IQ by 100" is very common. There's the competitive trials PvE crowd for you. Stop trying to generalize a playstyle.3 -
SickDuck✭✭✭✭✭The whole forced play concept from ZOS getting very old. Need to play pve to get better in pvp. Need to play pvp to get essential skill for pve. Need to play solo challenge to get BiS weapons for group content. This is a big contributor to the toxicity in the game - people being grumpy of doing unwanted chores. When will this finally end?Holdviola - Khira'de Regalo - Lélekvadász - Used To Be An Adventurer - Zetor - Does-Not-Give-A-Duck - Lord Sugar - Tenar Arha - Da'rinka - Violent Moon - Extreme Runner4
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Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Thread still going, huh.
Did post previously about how I now love BOTH pve AND pvp. (Although am finding pvp more satisfying at the moment.) I just wanted to reiterate to all those who think they will get stressed / anxious etc about pvp - I was like that for over a year of playing. Then I went as I wanted the skyshards & quests, thought I might as well have a look at a fight as long as I was there, ended up getting involved & loving it ever since. It was incredibly daunting at first. And I died. A lot. Still do, but now can do some damage first. Have found my role (support / defender - will never be emp as spend all my points on ballistas & masonry kits) and thst suits me.
Most people are funny & helpful & you can just ignore any idiots in text chat. (On PS4 EU thornblade so don't know if we're just ok here or what)
Would really suggest giving it a try. If AD and have any idea about strategies would be really appreciated as all the majority seem to want to do is fight over the damned bridge.......3 -
Majic✭✭✭✭✭So... who won the thread?
Epopt Of The Everspinning Logo, Church Of The Eternal Loading Screen
And verily, verily, spaketh the Lord: "Error <<1>>"0 -
Artis✭✭✭✭✭
✭I actually recommend all PvErs to try PvP in ESO. It's not much different from PvE, the way it plays and feels. Yes, there are toxic players (but there're some in pve as well), and yes right now there are a lot of procs. But it's still ESO that you love, and there's no reason not to try every aspect of the game. This one can be fun too. And you can learn too, just like you learn to pve wiping and dying a lot.What was happening is the tank would taunt the harvester and tank both the harvester and boss at the same time. Being in melee with the harvester subjects you to a nasty attack where they send 3 waves along the ground. Well the tank was being hit by all 3 being that close and getting one shot for 45k damage (15k x3). I suggested that the tank not taunt and the DPS just focus it ourselves with the agro on us so it fires the attack away from the tank.
Sound plan right? It was a tactic a group of friends of mine and I came up with when we ran this dungeon for the first time when we came back to the game. Worked in other PUG groups before as well. However the other DPS was just adamantly against the idea. Of course his response was DPS the harvester down faster. Sure.. if you had the damage to down it before it does the attack, you literally have 5-10 seconds to pull it off. But everyone in the group, myself and the DPS included was under 50. Like this guy was making personal attacks at me for making the suggestion.
Well, a tank should take both and interrupt the harvester by bashing her. Or someone else goes melee to bash and interrupt the cast, there's no reason for tank not to taunt. Just so you know. Try this next time.
Edited by Artis on December 22, 2016 10:33AM2 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually recommend all PvErs to try PvP in ESO. It's not much different from PvE, the way it plays and feels. Yes, there are toxic players (but there're some in pve as well), and yes right now there are a lot of procs. But it's still ESO that you love, and there's no reason not to try every aspect of the game. This one can be fun too. And you can learn too, just like you learn to pve wiping and dying a lot.What was happening is the tank would taunt the harvester and tank both the harvester and boss at the same time. Being in melee with the harvester subjects you to a nasty attack where they send 3 waves along the ground. Well the tank was being hit by all 3 being that close and getting one shot for 45k damage (15k x3). I suggested that the tank not taunt and the DPS just focus it ourselves with the agro on us so it fires the attack away from the tank.
Sound plan right? It was a tactic a group of friends of mine and I came up with when we ran this dungeon for the first time when we came back to the game. Worked in other PUG groups before as well. However the other DPS was just adamantly against the idea. Of course his response was DPS the harvester down faster. Sure.. if you had the damage to down it before it does the attack, you literally have 5-10 seconds to pull it off. But everyone in the group, myself and the DPS included was under 50. Like this guy was making personal attacks at me for making the suggestion.
Well, a tank should take both and interrupt the harvester by bashing her. Or someone else goes melee to bash and interrupt the cast, there's no reason for tank not to taunt. Just so you know. Try this next time.
I have, once or twice, I have warhorn so that says some things.
And quite frankly walking into Cyro makes me sick to my stomache. It feels nothing like PVE and usually ends in angry whispers/me leaving because I feel useless because I, the tank, does not last longer than five seconds. By contrast, dueling is fun for me, because it's usually either an even match up or I can take something away from it. In Cyro, I usually die because proc sets, hand of god, outnumbered, et cetera et cetera. Too many variables to provide a cohesive experience. It's actually alot better a test, in one v one.
Oddly enough, people screamed and cried when they mentioned dueling because smaller scale stuff wasn't what the game was built for, but IMO, it works better. But Cyro is hell. It's not balanced, and quite frankly, I sitll dont believe it can be balanced.Edited by Doctordarkspawn on December 22, 2016 10:53AM0 -
Zyrudin✭✭✭✭I actually recommend all PvErs to try PvP in ESO. It's not much different from PvE, the way it plays and feels. Yes, there are toxic players (but there're some in pve as well), and yes right now there are a lot of procs. But it's still ESO that you love, and there's no reason not to try every aspect of the game. This one can be fun too. And you can learn too, just like you learn to pve wiping and dying a lot.
Ah! Acting all casual and friendly to try to convince inexperienced PvE'rs to be farmed in PvP heh?
(Only a joke here, no offense intended
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