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Will Stam users get EXPOSED when Viper is nerfed next patch?
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AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭They are going to get SUBLIMATED, like DRY ICE on PLUTO doesn't.“Whatever.”
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Paneross✭✭✭✭✭Yes
Wrobels comments just look them up yourself. You can lie to yourself and say nothing is going to get nerfed. But procs sets will.0 -
Paneross✭✭✭✭✭YesPretty sure Viper is turning into a DoT next patch, so it'll deal its damage over 4-8 seconds. Fengrush mentioned it as well as a few others.
In other words, typical ZOS-style balancing.
Instead of balancing stuff they either overbuff it (Dark Brotherhood - Viper proc damage buffed by 500%)
OR
Nerf it into the ground (becomes a DoT = almost worthless)
Yep0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Noleepalmer95 wrote: »Some of these baddies getting carried by gear and going to get a shock when they gap close me and don't proc a free 20k tooltip of dmg.
I'm calling it now all the salt of these forums and going to be 'can't kill these anymore too tanky or i can't kill them anymore'
Yeah, but the heavy armor sorcs will still be out there.0 -
Paneross✭✭✭✭✭Yesstarkerealm wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Some of these baddies getting carried by gear and going to get a shock when they gap close me and don't proc a free 20k tooltip of dmg.
I'm calling it now all the salt of these forums and going to be 'can't kill these anymore too tanky or i can't kill them anymore'
Yeah, but the heavy armor sorcs will still be out there.
They won't have the burst damage from Viper anymore. So I look forward to them.0 -
Eshja✭✭✭✭Hasn't Wrobel said that they're aren't going to nerf it?@Eshja (PC EU) Master crafter | Roleplayer | Trial scrub | Love healing ♥
My characters: Nimpys Elenmir| Narielle Telvanni | Moans-Loudly | Vivienne The Zookeeper | Zamiatająca-Ogonem | Kha'mathre | Irgret Soul-Breaker0 -
Paraflex✭✭✭✭YesNot all players running proc sets are bad players. There is a majority of the players that run that set that will look for the next fotm set as this is the only way they have a chance to win fights.Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank
Max Stam/Mag Dk
Max Stam Sorc
Max Stam/Mag NB
Don't care to dps much so I heal.0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Pretty sure Viper is turning into a DoT next patch, so it'll deal its damage over 4-8 seconds. Fengrush mentioned it as well as a few others.
In other words, typical ZOS-style balancing.
Instead of balancing stuff they either overbuff it (Dark Brotherhood - Viper proc damage buffed by 500%)
OR
Nerf it into the ground (becomes a DoT = almost worthless)
This isn´t confirmed, just theory and speculations so far (regarding the viper set).
And exposed??? OP pls, viper isn´t even an issue tbh (maybe a bit over the top with the damage but nothing broken)0 -
GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Question about Viper. Does it scale off stamina or is the proc always a flat value? For instance, if a magicka user equipped viper and performed a melee, would it do the same amount of damage?0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesGrumpyDuckling wrote: »Question about Viper. Does it scale off stamina or is the proc always a flat value? For instance, if a magicka user equipped viper and performed a melee, would it do the same amount of damage?
Yes but it's affected by cp.
Also it it's effects by weapon pen and weapon crit.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoNot all players running proc sets are bad players. There is a majority of the players that run that set that will look for the next fotm set as this is the only way they have a chance to win fights.
but if player is good he dont need a proc sets to be still very good with killing other playersEdited by Edziu on December 19, 2016 9:38PM0 -
Paneross✭✭✭✭✭YesPretty sure Viper is turning into a DoT next patch, so it'll deal its damage over 4-8 seconds. Fengrush mentioned it as well as a few others.
In other words, typical ZOS-style balancing.
Instead of balancing stuff they either overbuff it (Dark Brotherhood - Viper proc damage buffed by 500%)
OR
Nerf it into the ground (becomes a DoT = almost worthless)
This isn´t confirmed, just theory and speculations so far (regarding the viper set).
And exposed??? OP pls, viper isn´t even an issue tbh (maybe a bit over the top with the damage but nothing broken)
Lets just give everyone golden guns with unlimited ammo. It's already who procs first wins. There'd be no difference!0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesPretty sure Viper is turning into a DoT next patch, so it'll deal its damage over 4-8 seconds. Fengrush mentioned it as well as a few others.
In other words, typical ZOS-style balancing.
Instead of balancing stuff they either overbuff it (Dark Brotherhood - Viper proc damage buffed by 500%)
OR
Nerf it into the ground (becomes a DoT = almost worthless)
This isn´t confirmed, just theory and speculations so far (regarding the viper set).
And exposed??? OP pls, viper isn´t even an issue tbh (maybe a bit over the top with the damage but nothing broken)
lol 'viper isn't broken'
Hahaha ...PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...4 -
Paneross✭✭✭✭✭YesNot all players running proc sets are bad players. There is a majority of the players that run that set that will look for the next fotm set as this is the only way they have a chance to win fights.
but if player is good he dont need a proc sets to be still very good with killing other players
Those players will survive the nerf with no problem. Theres going to be an astonishing amount of players who won't be able to keep up after the nerf.0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nostarkerealm wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Some of these baddies getting carried by gear and going to get a shock when they gap close me and don't proc a free 20k tooltip of dmg.
I'm calling it now all the salt of these forums and going to be 'can't kill these anymore too tanky or i can't kill them anymore'
Yeah, but the heavy armor sorcs will still be out there.
They won't have the burst damage from Viper anymore. So I look forward to them.
@leepalmer95 had a thread the other day, complaining about how it was impossible to kill Stamsorcs in heavy armor. You can look it up, if you really want. That's what I was referring to.0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoNot all players running proc sets are bad players. There is a majority of the players that run that set that will look for the next fotm set as this is the only way they have a chance to win fights.
but if player is good he dont need a proc sets to be still very good with killing other players
Those players will survive the nerf with no problem. Theres going to be an astonishing amount of players who won't be able to keep up after the nerf.
before nobody was using viper because was on 14vr instead of max 16vr and was no problem for stam build to play without it.
I still remember days while also ganging was pure skill without proc sets, at this moment until proc and heavy armor meta you cant go without viper because you will have no good burst, just have hope with procs nerf it will be also end of meta for heavy armor for everyone and then viper will be no needed that much to kill an average player because he wont have this heavy armor while proc sets nerf I have hope0 -
DHale✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoNo there will always be a set everyone flocks to that hits hard. People will still die and then get back on the forums complaining about the "next op thing" instead of just adapting or changing builds and play styles.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoNope.
As long as stam can combine vigor + rally + vitalilty pots + 2H weapon, decent players will be able to score kills without ViperMake Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesNo there will always be a set everyone flocks to that hits hard. People will still die and then get back on the forums complaining about the "next op thing" instead of just adapting or changing builds and play styles.
How does one adapt to being gap closed for the usual dmg + a free 20k tooltip dmg?
Or the fact bad players can block cast a ransack for 7.5k tooltip dmg and then proc 8k viper and 8k tremor for a free 16k tooltip dmg + 70% snare.
How does one adapt when 2/3's of peoples dmg are from 'RNG' armor sets.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesJoy_Division wrote: »Nope.
As long as stam can combine vigor + rally + vitalilty pots + 2H weapon, decent players will be able to score kills without Viper
A good player will and a good player should.
Now the bad players won't because the bad players rely on armor to do the pvping for you.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1
