Armitas wrote: »

New players are vital to the longevity of a game so you will be doing yourself a favor in the long run as well.

A good point well made.

i had to ride horseback from Davon's Watch to Windhelm yesterday with an alt char lvl 15 with riding speed of 4 , even with rapid manouver it was painfull beeing stopped all the time by some npc mobs near or on the roads .
then back again towards the quest spot , mind that i have atm 2 playable chars that are DC races but i play in AD .
seriously after finishing it and with the issues of lag andd the fact to go back on the spot to renew xp boost made me stop playing , the desire to play was off

Enodoc wrote: »

DPG76 wrote: »

i had to ride horseback from Davon's Watch to Windhelm yesterday

Should've used the Navigator

Can we go there with a boat ride ? didn't saw that written somewhere

DPG76 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

DPG76 wrote: »

i had to ride horseback from Davon's Watch to Windhelm yesterday

Should've used the Navigator

Can we go there with a boat ride ? didn't saw that written somewhere

That's what I was saying just above. The Navigators really aren't promoted very well.

Navigator Routes

For your purposes, the quickest would be Davon's Watch - Riften - Windhelm. The Navigator can be found at the Davon's Watch Dockyards.

Perhaps one of the addon authors can add map pins for navigators, (that is until the Devs add this feature to the vanilla version of the game), that would really help the new players out.

It did cross my mind that one subtle purpose of the Festival was designed around introducing newer players to travelling around Tamriel, getting them to explore new locations and leading them to areas where pivotal quests to the main storeyline are located, or having to travel past other quest-giver locations.

Many of the destinations are in proximity of existing Fighters Guild, Mages Guild and Undaunted (Bolgrul) Daily Pledges. I will not list them here and there might not be a quick-fix solution - appart from cadging a lift - for getting to a destination but what is the problem with that? I do not know any game where new players have everything handed to them on a plate.

I had to get an AD vet char - whom has not done Cadwell's Gold - to Betnikh. I used the 'Locations' cart from Elden Root (Grahtwood) to Daggerfall, caught a ship from Daggerfall to Stros M'Kai and from there, a sailing boat to Betnikh. I could probably have sailed directly from Daggerfall but I was too impatient to find the correct sailing vessel and so took the scenic route. On the way I picked up 6 skyshards, resulting in 2 (much needed) skill-points for the said Char.

Other locations, for example, Alclair Castle is close to the Rivenspire, Glenumbra and the Friendship Gate to Wrothgar - for those with access to the DLC, so with levelling there is no reason why anyone with the DLC cannot get there and why any of the 3 Alliences cannot get there using either their Alliance Gates or Locations Cart.

I agree wholeheartedly that the Location carts are not well advertised, nor well signposted and it sometimes takes a bit of problem solving to get from A to B but if ZOS's intention was to get players to explore, then I have no problem with that. It helps with immersion into the game and in the long-term, it might sort out the one-shot wonders from long-term players.

Armitas wrote: »

You may not realize this but this game has a constant influx of new players. Lots and lots of them. Few of those player will be able to participate in this New Life Festival because they don't have the way shrines. They can get there but it's a bit complicated for a new player. So if you are not doing anything, or you have a small chunk of time left over before you have to log, run a quick shuttle to the festival, or from the festival to the quest spots. I saw a lot of people helping them out, one even made a stack of twice spiked ale for the stonetooth achievement and was giving them all out to the people doing the festival. Just hit up some lowbie areas and ask in zone if anyone needs a shuttle to the New Life Festival. New players are vital to the longevity of a game so you will be doing yourself a favor in the long run as well.

Cool, I saw the person giving out the free ale. Very comendable. Also, I have been helping people get their ports ti different wayshrines.

I also created a new character (for the first time since One Tamriel started) and discovered that the ships in the harbors of the major cities actually take you places! So this is really cool.

Actually, I like to travel on foot most of the time to pick up skyshards, read lorebooks, gather mats, kill the occasional mob for the chance of aetheric cipher drop, and to loot treasure chests. I got a boat to Rifton then made my way to Kynesgrove Wayshrine the site of the New Life Festival.

Tai-Chi wrote: »

I had to get an AD vet char - whom has not done Cadwell's Gold - to Betnikh. I used the 'Locations' cart from Elden Root (Grahtwood) to Daggerfall, caught a ship from Daggerfall to Stros M'Kai and from there, a sailing boat to Betnikh. I could probably have sailed directly from Daggerfall but I was too impatient to find the correct sailing vessel and so took the scenic route. On the way I picked up 6 skyshards, resulting in 2 (much needed) skill-points for the said Char.

In Daggerfall, the same boat that takes you to Stros M'kai also takes you to Betnikh, you just pick different dialogue tree options. (And if anyone else is wondering, it's the little bitty boat near the lighthouse.)

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Tai-Chi wrote: »

I had to get an AD vet char - whom has not done Cadwell's Gold - to Betnikh. I used the 'Locations' cart from Elden Root (Grahtwood) to Daggerfall, caught a ship from Daggerfall to Stros M'Kai and from there, a sailing boat to Betnikh. I could probably have sailed directly from Daggerfall but I was too impatient to find the correct sailing vessel and so took the scenic route. On the way I picked up 6 skyshards, resulting in 2 (much needed) skill-points for the said Char.

In Daggerfall, the same boat that takes you to Stros M'kai also takes you to Betnikh, you just pick different dialogue tree options. (And if anyone else is wondering, it's the little bitty boat near the lighthouse.)

Also, if you're on the Betnikh daily, a 'door' will appear on the map indicating that will take you to the quest location. I noticed that the Betnikh travel option is only available if you have the daily quest - if you do not, you won't see that travel option to go to Betnikh.

Suter1972 wrote: »

If I was to help one out, do I just group with them?

Group with the person, make sure you are the leader (have the 'crown'). Then have the other player open their party menu ("P" key), then right-click your name, then select "Travel to Leader"...the person will appear at the closest wayshrine to you.

Of course, you need to travel to the desired location so you can act as the taxi.

Epona222 wrote: »

unhander_2 wrote: »

Perhaps one of the addon authors can add map pins for navigators, (that is until the Devs add this feature to the vanilla version of the game), that would really help the new players out.

There are map pins for navigators. Ships and boats are an anchor, and carts are... well a cart symbol. If you hover over the map pins, it even tells you which destinations the navigator goes to. This is in the vanilla game, not from an addon.

Right. These are the Transport Services icons:

These same icons are used for Navigators and all other transportation services.

When you mouse-over them, you get the icon and the details of where you can travel to.

Yeah, I got a female character called Lust, thief-in-chief this one. She goes in the starting area calling people to teleport them, although she takes 1000 gold for the teleport action. And people do buy the service. I guess it's because she is cute. The thing is, she take them directly to a sacrifice pit dedicated to Molag Bal.
Mouhahaha.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

New players are vital to the longevity of a game so you will be doing yourself a favor in the long run as well.

A good point well made.

Not really. If they join a decent sized guild they can travel to guild members.

And if they don't join a decent sized guild the chances of them staying in the game a long time is less.

So, OPs suggestion isn't needed.

I have and will play taxi for new players. Isn't a huge issue for me, and NOT being an unhelpful jerk is a bonus. I help out people with crafting questions and quest questions too. :shrug: People helped me when I started, I see no reason to stop being friendly/helpful/nice.

If no one helps them out, or tells them about decent guilds because "If they don't join a decent sized guild they won't be in the game long" then a self-fulfilling prophecy has been started. When I help with questions or play taxi I also ask new players if they would be interested in joining a guild. You know, since they are new and have no idea about guilds and all....I'm in two guilds that are new-player friendly with many members who don't mind answering questions or lending a hand.