Devs get rid of the damage portion of Hurricane

Kutsuu · December 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Well Magic Sorcs are forced to use a Lighting Staff, Endless Fury, Thunder Form, or Liquid Lighting to get an Implosion proc(Shock damage)

Stam Sorcs get an Implosion Proc of ANY physical damage....bow skills, tow handed skills, dual wield skills, sword and board skills, Hurricane, etc....i mean liaterlaly everything they do with no effort they get Implosion Procs...Mag Sorc has to hadicap himself with a Lighting Staff that you can't meduim weave with, with an ungoldy channel...just to have half the chance the stam sorc gets...yup thats balanced there i tell ya.....

Yeah, it's not like magsorcs have an amazing undodgeable execute that can be used from range and even pre-loaded for 4 seconds to combine with other burst like curse and a frag proc. Nope. Magsorcs just get the shaft.

Kutsuu · December 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

So funny. Look how quiet unbiased Fengrush is now

Who's Fengrush? I just thought he was some [snip] to the MMO world. Who just create, and farm potatoes for sponsorships and donations, by promoting [snip] gear and build options in ESO. But hey, capitalism right?

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Did you mean Sypher?

DHale · December 2016

Seriously, if you think hurricane is op.....

loki547 · December 2016

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

So you're a magblade that got chased by a stam sorc using hurricane and crit rush, very impartial.

Yea look at my signature, no magblade at all :)I main on a sorc, my Nightblade is a Heavy Armor non fotm build with no cloak or fear
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FearlessOne_2014 · December 2016

Kutsuu wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

So funny. Look how quiet unbiased Fengrush is now

Who's Fengrush? I just thought he was some [snip] to the MMO world. Who just create, and farm potatoes for sponsorships and donations, by promoting [snip] gear and build options in ESO. But hey, capitalism right?

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Did you mean Sypher?

Lol I see what you did there.

Well do Sypher even get's sponsorships? I thought he just get donations from other players and viewers?

leepalmer95 · December 2016

The only thing OP about hurricane is it's radius in later stages.

Is it even worth slotting cloak nowdays when everything has a counter.

A single stam sorc (which there are many of) literally makes cloak useless due to the sheer size hurricane can become.

For a basic armor buff skill it's got some nasty damage and radius with it.

Bring it's max radius down to grothdarr's level or something.

Dk is mean't to be the dot class, yet volatile armor has a basically useless dot on it.

Izaki · December 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

The only thing OP about hurricane is it's radius in later stages.

Is it even worth slotting cloak nowdays when everything has a counter.

A single stam sorc (which there are many of) literally makes cloak useless due to the sheer size hurricane can become.

For a basic armor buff skill it's got some nasty damage and radius with it.

Bring it's max radius down to grothdarr's level or something.

Dk is mean't to be the dot class, yet volatile armor has a basically useless dot on it.

Max radius of Hurricane is only 1 meter larger than Grothdarr.

leepalmer95 · December 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

The only thing OP about hurricane is it's radius in later stages.

Is it even worth slotting cloak nowdays when everything has a counter.

A single stam sorc (which there are many of) literally makes cloak useless due to the sheer size hurricane can become.

For a basic armor buff skill it's got some nasty damage and radius with it.

Bring it's max radius down to grothdarr's level or something.

Dk is mean't to be the dot class, yet volatile armor has a basically useless dot on it.

Max radius of Hurricane is only 1 meter larger than Grothdarr.

8m = 50 SqM area
9m = 63 SqM area

It's 26% bigger area

Izaki · December 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

The only thing OP about hurricane is it's radius in later stages.

Is it even worth slotting cloak nowdays when everything has a counter.

A single stam sorc (which there are many of) literally makes cloak useless due to the sheer size hurricane can become.

For a basic armor buff skill it's got some nasty damage and radius with it.

Bring it's max radius down to grothdarr's level or something.

Dk is mean't to be the dot class, yet volatile armor has a basically useless dot on it.

Max radius of Hurricane is only 1 meter larger than Grothdarr.

8m = 50 SqM area
9m = 63 SqM area

It's 26% bigger area

Yes, but its not like it will affect things much. A NB is only going to be touched in 1 place, so its basically only a 1m difference. Don't know if you see what I mean, I'm kinda struggling to explain it. Like the sorcerer is going to cover a larger area sure. The distance between the sorc and the NB is the problem you're talking about though.

If anything I think Boundless Storm should be buffed, cause right now its pitiful compared to Hurricane. Make it remove snares or something idk.

Edziu · December 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

I don't care abot it doing damage, i can out heal it with vigor. The only problem i have with hurricane is the huge radius and cloak becomes useless when you're fighting a stam sorc, imo it should not break cloak or break you out from stealth.

add also 95% of all stam sorcs on pvp ar running with viper and tremor so you have also guaranteed 70% snare 100% time until die because of 8 sec duratin with 4 sec cooldown so at all cloak is just useless in faight against stam sorc because you maybe will do rolldodge from this but huge snare 8 seconds and huge aoe around sorc = rip, with that huge and long snare you are unable to run from this sorc and hurricane dot will almost supress your vigor healing without damn major mending and vitality pots -.-

roigseguib16_ESO · December 2016

"Nerf what kills me or I can't kill", story of spoiled classes

roigseguib16_ESO · December 2016

Tbh people complaining about cloack not being an instawin are hilarious.

"Let me use my one-button i'm-out-of-here panic-solver mechanic without anything countering it! It's a Nightblade role you know? We should kill you and if we fail we should be able to leave with no challenge. Duh."

If you want the damage of nightblades, you have to give up survailability!

Kutsuu · December 2016

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Tbh people complaining about cloack not being an instawin are hilarious.

"Let me use my one-button i'm-out-of-here panic-solver mechanic without anything countering it! It's a Nightblade role you know? We should kill you and if we fail we should be able to leave with no challenge. Duh."

If you want the damage of nightblades, you have to give up survailability!

if cloak had a long cooldown and disarmed your character like "Vanish" in DAOC, then yeah it should be a nearly guaranteed escape. But that's not the case like you said.

Cloak is still a very reliable escape when used intelligently. Combining it with teleport shade is one of the most effective ways to use it to escape. It's all about the juke so their cloak counters don't help them.

roigseguib16_ESO · December 2016

Kutsuu wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Tbh people complaining about cloack not being an instawin are hilarious.

"Let me use my one-button i'm-out-of-here panic-solver mechanic without anything countering it! It's a Nightblade role you know? We should kill you and if we fail we should be able to leave with no challenge. Duh."

If you want the damage of nightblades, you have to give up survailability!

if cloak had a long cooldown and disarmed your character like "Vanish" in DAOC, then yeah it should be a nearly guaranteed escape. But that's not the case like you said.

Cloak is still a very reliable escape when used intelligently. Combining it with teleport shade is one of the most effective ways to use it to escape. It's all about the juke so their cloak counters don't help them.

That is entirely my point. Sarcasm, I guess I will make it clearer next time.

Yiko · December 2016

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Tbh people complaining about cloack not being an instawin are hilarious.

"Let me use my one-button i'm-out-of-here panic-solver mechanic without anything countering it! It's a Nightblade role you know? We should kill you and if we fail we should be able to leave with no challenge. Duh."

If you want the damage of nightblades, you have to give up survailability!

NBs give up survivability by not having things like Purifying Ritual, Major Mending passives, Dark Deal, Streak, Crit Surge, etc..
Counterplay is healthy, but when cloak is breaking to things like light attacks, single targets abilities, infernal guardian set, and having more than 1 channel on you, it's bugged.
I'd like to see it fixed WITH legitimate counters still in check, and then we can talk about potential balancing once it functions reliably.

If you're upset with stealth mechanics in general, that's an entirely different discussion.
Personally I'd like to see the guaranteed critical damage & stun from stealth removed entirely, as the advantage of stealth should be stealth itself.

FloppyTouch · December 2016

Stam sorc is fine nerf proc sets and blackrose

kyle.wilson · December 2016

funny, I play a magblade from time to time. I don't see an issue with hurricane from the stealth perspective. Playing a magblade is about target selection and eventually that stam sorc will drop hurricane whether intentionally or not. then you got them.

Infernal Guardians ability to hit you while in stealth is a whole different case.

I believe though that mag sorcs outnumber stam sorcs now. due to the aggressive use of destroy ults in ball groups and zergs.

And Fengrush was mentioned. The only time I've seen him lately he was on a Templar.

Kutsuu · December 2016

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Tbh people complaining about cloack not being an instawin are hilarious.

"Let me use my one-button i'm-out-of-here panic-solver mechanic without anything countering it! It's a Nightblade role you know? We should kill you and if we fail we should be able to leave with no challenge. Duh."

If you want the damage of nightblades, you have to give up survailability!

if cloak had a long cooldown and disarmed your character like "Vanish" in DAOC, then yeah it should be a nearly guaranteed escape. But that's not the case like you said.

Cloak is still a very reliable escape when used intelligently. Combining it with teleport shade is one of the most effective ways to use it to escape. It's all about the juke so their cloak counters don't help them.

That is entirely my point. Sarcasm, I guess I will make it clearer next time.

I think you mistook me agreeing with you for something else.

Malamar1229 · December 2016

Anazasi wrote: »

One set, one conclusion--Fascillia's Guile.

Stam sorc not going to keep hurricane up long when he or she realizes what debuff is killing them. Fact I do it all the time.

doesnt synergize well for magicka sorcs, who has no access to major defile btw