Can someone please help me understand why sword and board is really overpowered?

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

In the video his shield bash hit critted for about 7k. Regardless of the fact that they were lower levels even if they were v16 with golden gear his shield bash would still hit for sizable amounts. If you put about 60 cp into hadry I think it's about 16% damage mitigation but that doesn't include the one where you get reduced damage from shield bash. I almost forgot to mention the critical resistance part. Those guys obviously were wearing divines or infused but even if they were wearing impen his shield bashes would still hit crit for about 4-5k. Regardless even if that's like 2-3k less damage, this guy is still pumping out decent damage with shield bash alone and it costs nothing to shield bash.

Kutsuu wrote: »

Like I said, bash in PVP (yes with battle spirit included) is usually a 1-3k damage hit depending on mitigation/crits/etc when using a 1h/shield. That's not crazy and the damage to stam ratio isn't so good unless you are investing CPs/jewelery enchants into cost reduction. It costs about 1k stam with 1h/shield passives. It can hit a lot higher if you interrupt a cast time or channel, but I think that's perfectly fair.

You must have not had it set up properly because it still hits like a truck. They said they fixed it but it's still broken.

Wollust · December 2016

Here is how it is:

Sword and Board provides you with the following stuff:
1) Significantly higher defense due to the shield and the passives and the CP passive that increases the amount of armor and spell resistance
2) The active skills are all great and useful. 2 spammables that are each very very very good (Ransack -> Tremorscale, armor debuff, minor resolve, ridiculously low cost, decent dmg and Heroic Slash -> higher dmg, minor heroism, strong snare, minor maim). Reverb for a spammable heal debuff and one of the most annoying CCs in the game. Defensive stance for reflect and more tankiness and as a last a gap closer (though crit rush is still better here)
3) Allows you to go 2-5-5 (easier than with 2h weapons at least)
4) Synergizes great with heavy armor
5) LA -> Skill -> Bash. Bash is just another portion of damage that sword and board allows you to do (much better than other weapons due to passives). And it's a significant amount of damage it adds.

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

Wollust wrote: »

Here is how it is:

Sword and Board provides you with the following stuff:
1) Significantly higher defense due to the shield and the passives and the CP passive that increases the amount of armor and spell resistance
2) The active skills are all great and useful. 2 spammables that are each very very very good (Ransack -> Tremorscale, armor debuff, minor resolve, ridiculously low cost, decent dmg and Heroic Slash -> higher dmg, minor heroism, strong snare, minor maim). Reverb for a spammable heal debuff and one of the most annoying CCs in the game. Defensive stance for reflect and more tankiness and as a last a gap closer (though crit rush is still better here)
3) Allows you to go 2-5-5 (easier than with 2h weapons at least)
4) Synergizes great with heavy armor
5) LA -> Skill -> Bash. Bash is just another portion of damage that sword and board allows you to do (much better than other weapons due to passives). And it's a significant amount of damage it adds.

So what you're saying is the combo, not just bash alone is what makes it OP. Regardless even if I wasn't talking about shield bash there are a lot of sword and shield builds that are strong as hell and tanky too. I think that the sword and shield was meant for tanking originally but of course like everything else in this game it becomes abused by players.

kalitoslime · November 2017

We need a block breaker set ! I have no choice but to go sword and shield and two handed. I hate sword and board but it boss in pvp.. can dps and block can heal and block can block and dodge can block and reflect can block and shield come on now!! Block breaker set please ! Or remove dps while canceling blocking dodging healing !

raasdal · November 2017

Nice Necro.

Wreuntzylla · November 2017

The_Duke wrote: »

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5-rO8xHcnQ

Tell me again that it isn't broken. This was 7 months ago but it still works.

I noticed that the 2 guys who were killed were vet 7 and level 28. Not exactly geared up to compete in Cyrodiil.

I have rocked 1h and S since day 1 of console release so Im biased regarding its damage output. It still doesnt compare to 2h as an all around weapon. You could fill a 2h bar with all 2h skills and do great. That cant be said about 1h and S. LA, ransack bash is great burst if animation cancelled but it takes more skill than wrecking blow spam.

I may not recall exactly, but i think a friend of mine mapped bash to his right mouse button and block to a keyboard button, says its easy to LA-->Ransack-->Bash once you do that.

Witar · November 2017

Cause you can permablock and still do damage with it