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Would you still PvP if...
Dreyloch
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If proc sets, monster sets, and poisons were not allowed? With no CP's involved? If all you could wear was gold level rubidite, with gold glyphs. Using only gold tempered player crafted weapons? (and I mean to say no player crafted proc sets either)
I pose this question to you all. With so many flaws in the balance of PvP coming from all these different gear types, would you still play without any of it? Just relying on your skill bars and how you allocated your HP/Stam/Mana points? It seems the only way to kill the lag, rely on skill, and have everyone on some kind of even balance imo. So I'd be interested to hear what folks have to say, or would you all just leave the game?
I pose this question to you all. With so many flaws in the balance of PvP coming from all these different gear types, would you still play without any of it? Just relying on your skill bars and how you allocated your HP/Stam/Mana points? It seems the only way to kill the lag, rely on skill, and have everyone on some kind of even balance imo. So I'd be interested to hear what folks have to say, or would you all just leave the game?
"The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"
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✭I don't see why poisons are a problem. How exactly are they causing any lag? Poisons and potions have been a staple in TES games and go well with the lore so I see no reason to remove them. But as for the other things...yes I would play without all of them.0 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭I don't care about proc/sets/whatever. Yeah, it's skill-less trash but whatever.
My only Christmas Wish List is this:
1) No more long load screens - this is main thing that makes me logout and stop playing
2) Remove implosion - only thing that ever gets killing blows on me and it's a freaking passive. QQ L2P I know, I don't care. This is worse than proc sets.
3) Make Eye of the storm morph blockable, leave the other morph unblockable but negateable.
Everything else can stay the same and I'd be fine.
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✭I've already suggested naked pvp a while back. Skills only, no armor, no proc cheddar. Nothing.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »I've already suggested naked pvp a while back. Skills only, no armor, no proc cheddar. Nothing.
I agree. At this point, just have the cyro debuff remove CP, armor, sets, procs, etc. This would be across the entire campaigns.
If the CP taketh, give it back via the cyro debuff.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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sirston✭✭✭✭✭I used to PVP naked! and got an award for it!
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✭I don't care about proc/sets/whatever. Yeah, it's skill-less trash but whatever.
My only Christmas Wish List is this:
1) No more long load screens - this is main thing that makes me logout and stop playing
2) Remove implosion - only thing that ever gets killing blows on me and it's a freaking passive. QQ L2P I know, I don't care. This is worse than proc sets.
3) Make Eye of the storm morph blockable, leave the other morph unblockable but negateable.
Everything else can stay the same and I'd be fine.
I swear every time I get zerged down Implosion is what ended up killing me. I know I would have probably died anyways, but the fact that implosion gets the killing blow always makes me mad. Especially when the implosion was the only damage ability the guy gets on my death recap.3 -
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✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »I don't care about proc/sets/whatever. Yeah, it's skill-less trash but whatever.
My only Christmas Wish List is this:
1) No more long load screens - this is main thing that makes me logout and stop playing
2) Remove implosion - only thing that ever gets killing blows on me and it's a freaking passive. QQ L2P I know, I don't care. This is worse than proc sets.
3) Make Eye of the storm morph blockable, leave the other morph unblockable but negateable.
Everything else can stay the same and I'd be fine.
I swear every time I get zerged down Implosion is what ended up killing me. I know I would have probably died anyways, but the fact that implosion gets the killing blow always makes me mad. Especially when the implosion was the only damage ability the guy gets on my death recap.
RNG in PvP is bad, agreed.
Remove implosion, burning light, evasion and any other dice rolls.
Replace with more predictable mechanics.1 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »I don't care about proc/sets/whatever. Yeah, it's skill-less trash but whatever.
My only Christmas Wish List is this:
1) No more long load screens - this is main thing that makes me logout and stop playing
2) Remove implosion - only thing that ever gets killing blows on me and it's a freaking passive. QQ L2P I know, I don't care. This is worse than proc sets.
3) Make Eye of the storm morph blockable, leave the other morph unblockable but negateable.
Everything else can stay the same and I'd be fine.
I swear every time I get zerged down Implosion is what ended up killing me. I know I would have probably died anyways, but the fact that implosion gets the killing blow always makes me mad. Especially when the implosion was the only damage ability the guy gets on my death recap.
That's what I'm saying! It's always implosion. Sure, will die anyway but implosion makes me rage and I hate it lol. Especially the hurricane proc'ing implosion.Duraeon / Maoh
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AND remove the damage from hurricaneI don't care about proc/sets/whatever. Yeah, it's skill-less trash but whatever.
My only Christmas Wish List is this:
1) No more long load screens - this is main thing that makes me logout and stop playing
2) Remove implosion - only thing that ever gets killing blows on me and it's a freaking passive. QQ L2P I know, I don't care. This is worse than proc sets.
3) Make Eye of the storm morph blockable, leave the other morph unblockable but negateable.
Everything else can stay the same and I'd be fine.
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✭I run with Hundlings or Kags currently. The lag is what has driven more players from ESO than anything else, IMO."IMO"Aldmeri Dominion1 Nightblade - 1 Templar - 7 Hybrid Mutt Abominations2 -
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✭✭✭✭You are going to have to define "proc set." Is Kagneracs a proc set? How about Eternal Hope?1 -
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Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭I think most of you are a little off topic. You can PvP neked if ya want right now. But there are many races I'd prefer not to see that way lol. No, I'm talking about using nothing but skills and the highest plain old Ruby armor and weapons. Nothing else. I thought this might please the die hard "L2P noob, skill is king!" crowd. Even in Azura's Star you can still win depending on what proc sets your wearing.
But I think it'd be interesting to see the most feared/hated/talented/streamers and the like in a bracket contest of pure skill and "even"armor sets duke it out."The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"1 -
Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭You are going to have to define "proc set." Is Kagneracs a proc set? How about Eternal Hope?
Anything that gives a 5th trait(in some cases 3rd etc.)...ability is a proc. If it gives you an offensive buff or defensive debuff etc. It's a proc set technically. Ya know that Rubidite armor you probably sell as vendor trash or use to break down for mats? That's the armor/weapons I'm talking about. It's just plain ol' armor. No traits, no procs, no buffs.Edited by Dreyloch on December 7, 2016 6:29PM"The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"0 -
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sooooooo basically what i've already said was the best just in another thread?Stamblade- Legate
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Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/306440/blackwater-blade-the-best-pvp#latest
sooooooo basically what i've already said was the best just in another thread?
Your close, but Hundings and the like enhance things like crit damage, weapon damage, etc. Anything like that would be out."The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"0 -
Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »I don't see why poisons are a problem. How exactly are they causing any lag? Poisons and potions have been a staple in TES games and go well with the lore so I see no reason to remove them. But as for the other things...yes I would play without all of them.
It's not ab out poisons causing lag. It's about having everyone on the most even keel possible. Depending on what class/race you are, and what plain jane armor your wearing, with no enhancements outside of player made runes/glyphs (w/e you want to call them). Your then relying on armor and weapons passives, and what skills are on your bars."The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭I don't care about proc/sets/whatever. Yeah, it's skill-less trash but whatever.
My only Christmas Wish List is this:
1) No more long load screens - this is main thing that makes me logout and stop playing
2) Remove implosion - only thing that ever gets killing blows on me and it's a freaking passive. QQ L2P I know, I don't care. This is worse than proc sets.
3) Make Eye of the storm morph blockable, leave the other morph unblockable but negateable.
Everything else can stay the same and I'd be fine.
Doesn't care about proc sets
Cares about destro ult, the only counter to proc sets
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✭I have never nor will ever stop. It's just plain fun. I don't mind proc sets or destro ulti. The more cheese the better. As long as I can get what you get I am fine with cheese.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.1 -
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✭God_flakes wrote: »I don't see why poisons are a problem. How exactly are they causing any lag? Poisons and potions have been a staple in TES games and go well with the lore so I see no reason to remove them. But as for the other things...yes I would play without all of them.
It's not ab out poisons causing lag. It's about having everyone on the most even keel possible. Depending on what class/race you are, and what plain jane armor your wearing, with no enhancements outside of player made runes/glyphs (w/e you want to call them). Your then relying on armor and weapons passives, and what skills are on your bars.
Then you also have to demand no potions.0 -
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Resources draining poisons are the problem remove those and keep the rest.God_flakes wrote: »I don't see why poisons are a problem. How exactly are they causing any lag? Poisons and potions have been a staple in TES games and go well with the lore so I see no reason to remove them. But as for the other things...yes I would play without all of them.1 -
Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I don't see why poisons are a problem. How exactly are they causing any lag? Poisons and potions have been a staple in TES games and go well with the lore so I see no reason to remove them. But as for the other things...yes I would play without all of them.
It's not ab out poisons causing lag. It's about having everyone on the most even keel possible. Depending on what class/race you are, and what plain jane armor your wearing, with no enhancements outside of player made runes/glyphs (w/e you want to call them). Your then relying on armor and weapons passives, and what skills are on your bars.
Then you also have to demand no potions.
Potions have always been in the game since day one. Poisons were not. This is about getting us all down to the base gear the game started with. Do I need to make a video to explain this? sheesh
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I don't see why poisons are a problem. How exactly are they causing any lag? Poisons and potions have been a staple in TES games and go well with the lore so I see no reason to remove them. But as for the other things...yes I would play without all of them.
It's not ab out poisons causing lag. It's about having everyone on the most even keel possible. Depending on what class/race you are, and what plain jane armor your wearing, with no enhancements outside of player made runes/glyphs (w/e you want to call them). Your then relying on armor and weapons passives, and what skills are on your bars.
Then you also have to demand no potions.
Potions have always been in the game since day one. Poisons were not. This is about getting us all down to the base gear the game started with. Do I need to make a video to explain this? sheesh
LOL but potions are a buff, they're not a skill. I mean I agree it would be fun to one night run around in soul shriven rags or briefs and bikinis but Drey.....u ain't taking mah potionz!!!Edited by God_flakes on December 7, 2016 7:31PM0 -
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Resources draining poisons are the problem remove those and keep the rest.God_flakes wrote: »I don't see why poisons are a problem. How exactly are they causing any lag? Poisons and potions have been a staple in TES games and go well with the lore so I see no reason to remove them. But as for the other things...yes I would play without all of them.
Those are the only effective ones and a critical tool in taking down tanktards.0 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »I don't care about proc/sets/whatever. Yeah, it's skill-less trash but whatever.
My only Christmas Wish List is this:
1) No more long load screens - this is main thing that makes me logout and stop playing
2) Remove implosion - only thing that ever gets killing blows on me and it's a freaking passive. QQ L2P I know, I don't care. This is worse than proc sets.
3) Make Eye of the storm morph blockable, leave the other morph unblockable but negateable.
Everything else can stay the same and I'd be fine.
Doesn't care about proc sets
Cares about destro ult, the only counter to proc sets
Yeah good joke lmfao
Except proc sets only affect 1v1 and are plenty counterable and have mitigatable damage. Ever block a tremorscale? It hardly even hurts. Proc sets do make it irritating when you are small man and or solo and get Xv1 but you would likely die anyway eventually, so it's whatever.
Proc sets have very little bearing on group based PVP. Did you miss the portion where I said EOTS should be blockable damage while the placed morph stays the way it is? Btw EOTS is a terrible counter to proc sets in a 1v1. You can easily heal through one EOTS, it's not even an issue. When you have an organized ball group timing them, it then becomes an issue because the only mitigation you have is run away or be in a ball group with enough heals to keep you alive.
Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
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✭✭✭✭✭I am not in favor of playing without set bonuses, but I am in favor of a crafted armor only campaign. This would eliminate most of the cheese.2
