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Trueflame -NA- Mid-Campaign Summary
Minno
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Good fights so far! Equally good trash talk.
Here's the summary of the score:
This is based on score from 1am and remainder of ticks based on 19d duration left. This also assumes the factions will keep the same score for 24 hours.
AD will win this cycle if they can keep -DC below 55-54 points. But, they must keep EP 55 as well. This means AD must hit EP the same time they hit DC or at least bottle neck -EP till score eval before hitting -EP.
-DC has a projected win if they can keep AD and EP below 55 points. With a 3rd place slot, -DC can have advantage in that they can bottle neck AD at Ash while adding more troops against -EP since 3rd place means you aren't focused on by the enemy as much.
- -EP has a projected win if they can keep themselves above 60 and keep AD/-DC below 59. I'll give -EP the expected win, if AD continues their trend of pushing past Ash leaving an opening in their front against -EP near alessia.
The numbers don't take into account of day time score snap shot(Eastern time). Only early morning Eastern time. And the scores usual flux a bit above or way below the 60 point base datum I sometimes use.
So it's still anyone's game. I'll be doing this consistently.
Here's the summary of the score:
This is based on score from 1am and remainder of ticks based on 19d duration left. This also assumes the factions will keep the same score for 24 hours.
AD will win this cycle if they can keep -DC below 55-54 points. But, they must keep EP 55 as well. This means AD must hit EP the same time they hit DC or at least bottle neck -EP till score eval before hitting -EP.
-DC has a projected win if they can keep AD and EP below 55 points. With a 3rd place slot, -DC can have advantage in that they can bottle neck AD at Ash while adding more troops against -EP since 3rd place means you aren't focused on by the enemy as much.
- -EP has a projected win if they can keep themselves above 60 and keep AD/-DC below 59. I'll give -EP the expected win, if AD continues their trend of pushing past Ash leaving an opening in their front against -EP near alessia.
The numbers don't take into account of day time score snap shot(Eastern time). Only early morning Eastern time. And the scores usual flux a bit above or way below the 60 point base datum I sometimes use.
So it's still anyone's game. I'll be doing this consistently.
Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual
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Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭We may not be winning the battle, but we are winning... The Bridge.
It's so hot over there even the DC show up for some.Edited by Armitas on December 6, 2016 8:31PMRetired.
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✭Were you bored or on adderall?Rhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
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✭✭✭✭✭caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »Were you bored or on adderall?
Nope. Just wanted to promote map-play mechanics instead of 1vx elitist play/ zerg rushes/ troll tower lag farms.
This way guild leads can get a little snapshot on where they can attack next or spread out to.
Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Celas_Dranacea✭✭✭✭✭Thanks Minno - this was fun to look at and I appreciate the effort!
I will add my humble punditry to this thread:
The current score gap of a few hundred points means nothing. DC just has a slight "we won 3 campaigns" hangover. I predict they will kick into high gear and take the lead in the last 1.5 weeks.
We saw this last campaign when they closed the gap on a 1,000 point AD lead and finished the campaign with a 1,000+ lead of their own.A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf3 -
pcar944✭✭✭✭and remember this is Cyrodil, anything can happen
One Tamriel killed PVP
DC Magicka Orc Necromancer climbing those ranks ...1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Celas_Dranacea wrote: »Thanks Minno - this was fun to look at and I appreciate the effort!
I will add my humble punditry to this thread:
The current score gap of a few hundred points means nothing. DC just has a slight "we won 3 campaigns" hangover. I predict they will kick into high gear and take the lead in the last 1.5 weeks.
We saw this last campaign when they closed the gap on a 1,000 point AD lead and finished the campaign with a 1,000+ lead of their own.
Thanks!
Adding to your thoughts, the same can be said of any of the factions. Last night AD had a strong raid at 12:30-1am before I logged and several of EP's small man crew took the fight to -DC near dragon claw the night before.
But you are correct, at any time the factions can rally to take the win, I just hope the above chat shows a path to each player of a possible faction win and what that win looks like in terms of what you need to capture.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »Were you bored or on adderall?
Nope. Just wanted to promote map-play mechanics instead of 1vx elitist play/ zerg rushes/ troll tower lag farms.
This way guild leads can get a little snapshot on where they can attack next or spread out to.
I salute youRhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
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pcar944✭✭✭✭remember that end of the month is like a week-2 week holiday so anything can happenOne Tamriel killed PVP
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✭Nice Minno!DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault1 -
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✭Honestly Telel feels so very lonely lately when they go and try to murder elves for the glory of Kate Beckinsale.
Humble khajiit goes to cyrodiil hoping to have many fun frolicks with the many other responsible, wise, and hopefully superior players who lead groups and work with others to try and accomplish useful things.
But lately..oh it is much sadness for khajiit.
Hours upon hours upon hours (this would go on longer but khajiit believes in brevity) spent asking if there is even one other Dumbminion player out there running a group only to be met with people arguing over proc sets, and statements about how it's unfair they have learn how to siege and retake alessia if they want to fight be farned by their friends at the bridge.
https://youtu.be/PHTVuP5P4ok
Oh and the hordes of stick wielding griffs whose primary skill is either running forward, or holding block. Those are kind of tiresome. But at least Telel can murder and eat them..because Razum-Dar said it's legal.
#lonelyatthebottom , #diebridgedie,Character: Telel
Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.
Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.6 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Honestly Telel feels so very lonely lately when they go and try to murder elves for the glory of Kate Beckinsale.
Humble khajiit goes to cyrodiil hoping to have many fun frolicks with the many other responsible, wise, and hopefully superior players who lead groups and work with others to try and accomplish useful things.
But lately..oh it is much sadness for khajiit.
Hours upon hours upon hours (this would go on longer but khajiit believes in brevity) spent asking if there is even one other Dumbminion player out there running a group only to be met with people arguing over proc sets, and statements about how it's unfair they have learn how to siege and retake alessia if they want to fight be farned by their friends at the bridge.https://youtu.be/PHTVuP5P4ok
Oh and the hordes of stick wielding griffs whose primary skill is either running forward, or holding block. Those are kind of tiresome. But at least Telel can murder and eat them..because Razum-Dar said it's legal.
#lonelyatthebottom , #diebridgedie,
My AD protected win assumes the dirty elves take 1 DC keep and 1 EP resource while holding your base 54 points (aka holding home objectives).
You don't need those elves; make Razum-Dar proud and go "James Bond" on the faction of your choice.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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I completely forgot about this. Thanks!
I'll be traveling for the holidays in 2 weeks, but if someone gets me a screen shot of the score/map, I can do some "forum pvp" And keep a summary update for those that can play.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭This is cool thanks for putting it together!Invictus
Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
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✭✭✭✭Indeed!
Nice work Minno!Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
Juste Gandolphi Dark Elf Templar Daggerfall Covenant
Richter Gandolphi - Dark Elf Dragonknight Daggerfall Covenant
Mathias Gandolphi - Breton Nightblade Daggerfall Covenant
RinaldoGandolphi - High Elf Sorcerer Aldmeri Dominion
Officer Fire and Ice
Co-GM - MVP
Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)
"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak0 -
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✭✭✭✭This is very nice! Not the average complaining about aggresive zerg v. zerg or farming, but actual statistics on how each faction can win. Very nice indeed."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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Celas_Dranacea✭✭✭✭✭I think Minno might also be doing some sneaky psychological operations here to give math that will lead EP/AD to pursue victory in the way that is least disruptive to DC.
Just sayin'
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✭✭✭✭✭Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I think Minno might also be doing some sneaky psychological operations here to give math that will lead EP/AD to pursue victory in the way that is least disruptive to DC.
Just sayin'
Haha I can see that. I'm a better forum-plar than a player anyway lol.
But seriously, AD was going on a path that leads to an -EP victory. You needed Dc to commit their troops to lessen the gap on EP. AD was hitting DC as hard as -EP, rightly thinking to push DC away from another campaign win. But the effect was that EP saw you left the road to alessia relatively uncontested. So while AD took ash/rayles/tried to seige glade (8 points total, potential 12 total if glade gets taken), you lost alessia/faregyl/bloodmayne (24 total points loss).
AD needed to bottle neck the second place faction, hold all home objectives, and flip resources on both enemies. My score predictions assume a keep and a few resources are flipped, which isn't crazy to achieve in primetime.
On Monday, I'll give another update that lists reach factions win potential as objectively as possible.
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✭✭Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I think Minno might also be doing some sneaky psychological operations here to give math that will lead EP/AD to pursue victory in the way that is least disruptive to DC.
Just sayin'
Haha I can see that. I'm a better forum-plar than a player anyway lol.
But seriously, AD was going on a path that leads to an -EP victory. You needed Dc to commit their troops to lessen the gap on EP. AD was hitting DC as hard as -EP, rightly thinking to push DC away from another campaign win. But the effect was that EP saw you left the road to alessia relatively uncontested. So while AD took ash/rayles/tried to seige glade (8 points total, potential 12 total if glade gets taken), you lost alessia/faregyl/bloodmayne (24 total points loss).
AD needed to bottle neck the second place faction, hold all home objectives, and flip resources on both enemies. My score predictions assume a keep and a few resources are flipped, which isn't crazy to achieve in primetime.
On Monday, I'll give another update that lists reach factions win potential as objectively as possible.
EP are free kills though. Can push them to the bottom of the leader board in a day. DC are all perma blocking healers that have a 24/7 presence.Edited by IxSTALKERxI on December 10, 2016 1:00AMNA | PC | Aldmeri DominionLaser Eyes AR 26 Arcanist | Stalker V AR 41 Warden | I Stalker I AR 42 NB | Stalkersaurus AR 31 Templar | Stalker Ill AR 31 Sorc | Nigel the Great of BlackwaterFormer Emperor x11 campaign cyclesVenatus Officer | RIP RÁGE | YouTube Channel5 -
aidenmoore✭✭✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I think Minno might also be doing some sneaky psychological operations here to give math that will lead EP/AD to pursue victory in the way that is least disruptive to DC.
Just sayin'
Haha I can see that. I'm a better forum-plar than a player anyway lol.
But seriously, AD was going on a path that leads to an -EP victory. You needed Dc to commit their troops to lessen the gap on EP. AD was hitting DC as hard as -EP, rightly thinking to push DC away from another campaign win. But the effect was that EP saw you left the road to alessia relatively uncontested. So while AD took ash/rayles/tried to seige glade (8 points total, potential 12 total if glade gets taken), you lost alessia/faregyl/bloodmayne (24 total points loss).
AD needed to bottle neck the second place faction, hold all home objectives, and flip resources on both enemies. My score predictions assume a keep and a few resources are flipped, which isn't crazy to achieve in primetime.
On Monday, I'll give another update that lists reach factions win potential as objectively as possible.
EP are free kills though. Can push them to the bottom of the leader board in a day. DC are all perma blocking healers that have a 24/7 presence.
With the attitude like this I am SO glad that EP is in lead.4 -
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✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I think Minno might also be doing some sneaky psychological operations here to give math that will lead EP/AD to pursue victory in the way that is least disruptive to DC.
Just sayin'
Haha I can see that. I'm a better forum-plar than a player anyway lol.
But seriously, AD was going on a path that leads to an -EP victory. You needed Dc to commit their troops to lessen the gap on EP. AD was hitting DC as hard as -EP, rightly thinking to push DC away from another campaign win. But the effect was that EP saw you left the road to alessia relatively uncontested. So while AD took ash/rayles/tried to seige glade (8 points total, potential 12 total if glade gets taken), you lost alessia/faregyl/bloodmayne (24 total points loss).
AD needed to bottle neck the second place faction, hold all home objectives, and flip resources on both enemies. My score predictions assume a keep and a few resources are flipped, which isn't crazy to achieve in primetime.
On Monday, I'll give another update that lists reach factions win potential as objectively as possible.
EP are free kills though. Can push them to the bottom of the leader board in a day. DC are all perma blocking healers that have a 24/7 presence.
yeah they are when you bring doubt the number of your opponent, which is your wont.Edited by Lucky28 on December 10, 2016 7:49PMInvictus0 -
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✭aidenmoore wrote: »IxSTALKERxI wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I think Minno might also be doing some sneaky psychological operations here to give math that will lead EP/AD to pursue victory in the way that is least disruptive to DC.
Just sayin'
Haha I can see that. I'm a better forum-plar than a player anyway lol.
But seriously, AD was going on a path that leads to an -EP victory. You needed Dc to commit their troops to lessen the gap on EP. AD was hitting DC as hard as -EP, rightly thinking to push DC away from another campaign win. But the effect was that EP saw you left the road to alessia relatively uncontested. So while AD took ash/rayles/tried to seige glade (8 points total, potential 12 total if glade gets taken), you lost alessia/faregyl/bloodmayne (24 total points loss).
AD needed to bottle neck the second place faction, hold all home objectives, and flip resources on both enemies. My score predictions assume a keep and a few resources are flipped, which isn't crazy to achieve in primetime.
On Monday, I'll give another update that lists reach factions win potential as objectively as possible.
EP are free kills though. Can push them to the bottom of the leader board in a day. DC are all perma blocking healers that have a 24/7 presence.
With the attitude like this I am SO glad that EP is in lead.
Honestly, I think EP having the 1st place is much better for the campaign than DC. This will be contested and apart from AD I hope EP does well. Time to kick DC in the nuts A is for Atronach.
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✭✭aidenmoore wrote: »IxSTALKERxI wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I think Minno might also be doing some sneaky psychological operations here to give math that will lead EP/AD to pursue victory in the way that is least disruptive to DC.
Just sayin'
Haha I can see that. I'm a better forum-plar than a player anyway lol.
But seriously, AD was going on a path that leads to an -EP victory. You needed Dc to commit their troops to lessen the gap on EP. AD was hitting DC as hard as -EP, rightly thinking to push DC away from another campaign win. But the effect was that EP saw you left the road to alessia relatively uncontested. So while AD took ash/rayles/tried to seige glade (8 points total, potential 12 total if glade gets taken), you lost alessia/faregyl/bloodmayne (24 total points loss).
AD needed to bottle neck the second place faction, hold all home objectives, and flip resources on both enemies. My score predictions assume a keep and a few resources are flipped, which isn't crazy to achieve in primetime.
On Monday, I'll give another update that lists reach factions win potential as objectively as possible.
EP are free kills though. Can push them to the bottom of the leader board in a day. DC are all perma blocking healers that have a 24/7 presence.
With the attitude like this I am SO glad that EP is in lead.
DC will pass EP again soon enough, just watch. :PNA | PC | Aldmeri DominionLaser Eyes AR 26 Arcanist | Stalker V AR 41 Warden | I Stalker I AR 42 NB | Stalkersaurus AR 31 Templar | Stalker Ill AR 31 Sorc | Nigel the Great of BlackwaterFormer Emperor x11 campaign cyclesVenatus Officer | RIP RÁGE | YouTube Channel1 -
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✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I think Minno might also be doing some sneaky psychological operations here to give math that will lead EP/AD to pursue victory in the way that is least disruptive to DC.
Just sayin'
Haha I can see that. I'm a better forum-plar than a player anyway lol.
But seriously, AD was going on a path that leads to an -EP victory. You needed Dc to commit their troops to lessen the gap on EP. AD was hitting DC as hard as -EP, rightly thinking to push DC away from another campaign win. But the effect was that EP saw you left the road to alessia relatively uncontested. So while AD took ash/rayles/tried to seige glade (8 points total, potential 12 total if glade gets taken), you lost alessia/faregyl/bloodmayne (24 total points loss).
AD needed to bottle neck the second place faction, hold all home objectives, and flip resources on both enemies. My score predictions assume a keep and a few resources are flipped, which isn't crazy to achieve in primetime.
On Monday, I'll give another update that lists reach factions win potential as objectively as possible.
EP are free kills though. Can push them to the bottom of the leader board in a day. DC are all perma blocking healers that have a 24/7 presence.
yeah they are when you bring doubt the number of your opponent, which is your wont.
primetime all factions locked hmmmmmmmmmmmm???1
