Complicated Feelings About ESO -- Are You Worried?

  • The Uninvited
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    I am a bit worried. A lot of in-game friends switched to Ark it seems.

    My guess is it's because of the lack of "new zone/new trials" updates.

    Or because playing the game for 2 years everyday makes you look for something fresh to do.
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  • HeroOfNone
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    It's the same stuff all over again to me.

    The devs are doing their job and improving things as they need to. They have even been doing extra from what they promised.

    GMs are improving the game, removing toxic elements, getting more involved in game and on the forums. Though they have been lacking an ESO Live for a while.

    Marketing is... strange, and I feel are doing the same mediocre job they have always been. The promotions they host are restrictive and don't allow certain groups to go. They have comercials but barely show half the game, vontent, and it lacks cinematic element. The crown store crates are poorly sold to the customer base and I'm assuming they had a big part in their pricing, RNG, and the lack of promotion material surrounding them. It's the same sort of lame performance ESO's marketing team has had since launch: gimmicky, lacking creativity, and lack ingenuity in its sales technique.

    So as for the game over all, nothing bad for me, but I feel we'll lose some with this crown crate business.
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  • nexxus_ESO
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    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Yeah yeah. Have you seen the cool kids rocking their new atronach mounts? I should have bought more crowns when they were on sale because I need one bad!

    +the game is getting old, and there's still soooooo much to do. Most full retail priced games have maybe one season worth of playtime, before they get boring. Not ESO

    I'm not the least bit concerned because there's sooo many dedicated players out there....and many new players getting drawn in

    I've seen the atronach mounts, and I'm not impressed. Lol. I actually think they look ridiculous and don't want one. Of all the things available in the crates, there's maybe 5 items I wouldn't mind having. I want that little Loon pet more than anything. I've wanted one as a pet since I first ran across them in Orsinium DLC though.

    There are some full-priced games that don't even have 50 hours worth of play in them. ESO at least has the benefit of being able to change in significant ways. Sometimes it will be for the better, sometimes it will be for the worse, but it can change and that's reason enough to hold out hope and not go full on panic mode.
  • the_man_of_steal
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    I am semi-worried but for different reasons than OP. The fact that crafters basically have no real source for economic gains is egregious and wrong. That being said, I started this game at launch but I started very casually and did not immediately start to craft from day or even week 1. This lag in crafting sets keeping up with dropped sets has allowed me to catch up and I am almost 9 traits in everything now. I do understand any crafter's complaint about this and it is highly valid. My heart goes out to crafters who spent months investing in these lines and now barely have any recompense out of it. But I am not worried about this... ZOS will fix this issue I'm certain.

    I LOVE the dueling environment. I don't think it ruins the experience for role players at all! I do think there should be an option to never allow dueling requests. But this is a tiny thing and again I am not worried about this at all.

    I also don't think the world boss stuff is an issue. I just simply wait it out till ppl come along... make a sandwich. This doesn't worry me either.

    I HIGHLY dislike micro-transactions and believe they are the blackest spot on any game (they are the reason I quit Destiny as a player with one of the highest K/Ds in the game). But again, this doesn't worry me as long as one cannot benefit in terms of game power of game gold from these box rewards.

    So you might ask "well what does worry you?" Great question:

    What worries me most of all is the quite obvious focus ZOS Devs have changed to which forces new content and big updates every few months. Don't get me wrong, content is amazing! We all want new fun trials, dungeons, gear, adventures. But none of the Community want a game full of content... and game breaking bugs.

    You Devs are going too fast for yourselves. You need to slow it down and take a look at the last year of updates and changes. Some changes are greatly appreciated and heralded on these forums. But other changes are unintended and have horrid ramifications of making the community dissolve. And in an MMO... Community is the game.

    I do want to stay in group just before the last dungeon boss... but I also don't want to be stuck in group limbo waiting for 15 mins to get into another group.

    I do want MVA to be tough and hard to beat... I don't want to have to do it 1,000 times to get that one item.

    I do want to have all armor (heavy, medium, light) be relative and usable in the game... I don't want to be forced into playing heavy just for the sake of tanks or to be playing a meta in which everyone has insane DPS.

    I do want new gear, new sets, new ways to DPS... I Don't want to be forced to do just one meta... I also DONT want to join the META late only to have it nerfed to oblivion once I have invested the time and gold to get there.

    I do want to be able to withstand a small zerg if I play it right and use LOS to my advantage... I don't want to be forced to use Heavy Armor.

    I do want new changes and things to this game... I DONT want ZOS to spring stuff on us a month or sometimes weeks before the updates so we have virtually zero time to prepare...

    These are a few things off the top of my head and I am sure there are dozens more things I will think of. But really I think the largest issues are ZOS balancing the game by nerfing things or buffing other things so much that they are OP... that's not balance. The other largest issue is I Do NOT want to be investing weeks and months into something and have it completely changed due to balancing efforts. The biggest step toward finding a solution starts with ZOS:

    COMMUNICATE WITH US MORE ABOUT YOUR DECISION CONFLICTS. Make the forum community influential in your decisions BEFORE you make huge changes.

    Sincerely,

    An Avid ESO Player
    Edited by the_man_of_steal on December 2, 2016 5:27PM
  • GraniteDevil
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    I don't worry about video games. They are my escape from constant worry and anxiety. Of which I have plenty IRL.
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    I don't want to participate in a poll to answer this . I am concerned about the game but I've always been concerned , it's nothing new . It's painful to always worry though . A game should not be painful . So I worry less and play despite the issues...

    This kind of sums up my feelings as well. I, too, don't feel the need to participate in a poll on this issue. I've continued to play lately despite a number of issues, but I can see the day coming when I would uninstall ESO. I'm not disappointed, I'm not angry. I'm just getting done with the game.

    Last night after I got home from work, I started up my game computer and was about to log onto ESO. But I stopped at looked at desktop, which has almost a dozen game shortcuts on it. These are games that I really enjoy and used to play regularly. The TES series, the Borderlands series, Bioshock, and a bunch of others. Since ESO came I out, I play them a lot less. But I still enjoy them and some of them more than ESO.

    At the end of the day, it's just a game; it's entertainment. When I walk out of a movie or finish watching a television show, I'm not logging onto the internet to try and get the directors to change something. I either liked it or I didn't, and I move on.

    And so I'm not sitting around thinking, "Wow, this game will be awesome when X happens," (whatever X might be - housing, new content, whatever). Sure, I want to see some of those things. But if I keep thinking more and more about playing other games, then that means I'll probably move on to something else soon.

    It's really just another game.

    Edited by IrishGirlGamer on December 2, 2016 6:50PM
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  • Phinix1
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    One thing seems certain. We'll never see cool stuff on the straight up Crown store for reasonable prices ever again. Everything new and cool will go immediately into the predatory Casino Crates (TM) where you gamble your paycheck away and throw $100's of dollars down the digital hole just to (hopefully) get some new gimicky mount.

    I have spent probably hundreds of dollars on the Crown store willingly since launch, but this extortion gambling is just corrupt as it gets and makes me not really want to buy ANYTHING they are offering or even log on really.

    So much time and energy invested playing, modding, and hyping this game.

    Does this feel like a betrayal of loyal fans and customers? HELL YES it does.
  • Cazic
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    Not worried at all. I've played since beta and the game is better now than ever.
  • svartorn
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    I'm a bit worried. This is by far the best mmo I've ever played. All my RL friends and Guildies are here too. But, eso is starting to make those oh so familiar decisions that I've seen many times in the past with other games. No need to write an essay, it's pretty simple. Lack of significant updates, limited communication with the playerbase, cash shop/scam crate focus over actual gameplay issues, nagging bugs and imbalances being ignored. I'm hoping it's just a rough season for eso and the new year will bring the type of news from ZOS that can set my mind at ease.

    Nailed it.
  • Vrienda
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    The game's only gotten better since launch. I think the issue is playing the game too hardcore.

    Min/maxing all the best sets, stats, builds, food buffs etc... would drive me insane. I pick a character I like and play the way I want to play, regardless of it being optimal. I wish everyone would play like that.

    ZOS have obviously gotten better at marketing the game too, considering how people feel about it now compared to at launch. There's a lot less hate.

    As for crafting... it was necessary. The old zones were quickly becoming dead, now there's tons of people actively gathering up armor sets they need. Crafters still get to choose their traits, so its not all bad for them.

    I'll be worried when they start selling sets on the crown store or something like that. Pay to win will kill the game if they ever walk down that road. So far things are mostly cosmetic with a few consumables I doubt anyone really buys unless they're in a bundle.
    Edited by Vrienda on December 2, 2016 7:17PM
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  • maboleth
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    People are generally afraid of duels. Why? If anything it's the fairest of all PVP play in this game ever. It's fun and if fighting good players, it sharpens your skills. Duels can translate well in RPG, just use your imagination. And about world boss fights... Mind you, but in the past you could take world bosses without even watching the screen. World bosses finally look right and are challenging. Finally.

    But this all is just a mild annoyance for me. I canceled my subscription because I'm tired of the mindset this game has. Most players I played with just mindlessly roam Tamriel, without ever paying attention to the quests and details. They don't read and don't listen. Magic of exploration is gone. It's just fight this, fight that. Even if you play alone, which I prefer most of the time, it's hard to take yourself seriously on anything when there's XY amount of people doing same things, killing the mysterious boss you wanted to quest. Everything is kind of shallow, feeling like the movie set, rather than being inside the pure fantasy world. Your actions don't affect the world around you. Well, hardly. ZOS openly said that Orsinium was the only place where the world changed depending on your actions. Really, of the whole Tamriel? Beh...

    Some are here just for heavy, ZOS sponsored, grind. Some are for end-game gear. Repeating everything to death just to get their heavily sought armour piece or golden jewelry. And then do what? Rinse and repeat. Or Cyrodiil, full of pompous impenetrable tanks or rookies just trying to fit in. And then the proc sets... use less skill, just count on the gear to get your job done. Meh. For these reasons I'm back Skyrim and other games. But, ironically, ESO is better than ever since One Tamriel update, yet I almost completely lost interest because of the player base and trouble with getting myself immersed again.
  • pirate3
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    I'm not worried, I'm just adapting to the new reality by cancelling my subscription. It feels like a F2P game now, so why pay? There's still fun to be had for no cost. Let them bleed the whales dry. Take what you can. Give nothing back.
  • darthsithis
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    I'll be concise-

    Not worried, as many things are indicative of zos wanting to maintain the life of the game world. Sometime they go too far with mystery loot boxes for collectaholics and that's kinda like dot dot dot...

    But other than that, dueling is great for making builds and testing armor sets and new skill bar setups, crown store is justified by the humble but mighty crown repair kits, both casual and hardcore players are being offered engaging content, and medium-difficulty exists for those transitioning, drop sets make infinite possibilities which equals fun, and every year, my game lags out 1 or 2 fewer times than the last year :)

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