Why do people frequently post up their DPS results on each boss fight?

Xundiin · November 2016

DPS meters are a tool that if used properly can better yourself. That being said, some people have no other accomplishments in life other than a game and so they must show the world just how special they really are.

I run meters, I never post them because it doesn't matter to you what I'm pulling.... but it does matter to me to better myself as a player. If two players are from the same guild trials group and they want to compare meters that's fine. There is this thing called tells. But yeah that's to hard and so it must be posted in group where the lower skilled people who could give two *** less on what it says has to read it.

Prof_Bawbag · November 2016

The best part is are those people who claim it's important to see all those numbers during any given fight. What they fail to accept that it's impossible to be fighting a boss or large trash mobs and for the human brain to process all those numbers as they're appearing on-screen. Even when you're not concentrating on the fight, your brain isn't capable of processing all those numbers in any true and meaningful way if they're appearing on screen quickly. Only a computer can do those types calculations as they appear or someone truly gifted whether it be because they're a freak of nature or some other reason. It's only handy if you're recording the fight.

It's a bit similar to those people who claim they can spot the difference between a £5 HDMI cable and one that costs £30. They have to say it as to justify why they have all those numbers popping up on the screen and why they were gullible enough to waste an extra £25 on that HDMI cable respectively. They convince themselves so I don't believe the people who claim all those numbers aren't meaningless at the time are out right liars, they're just deluded.

anitajoneb17_ESO · November 2016

My leitmotiv of "If you have expectations, don't PUG" applies here too.

If other players like to post their DPS, for whatever reason, so be it. It might be..

- because they're a group of guildies actually working on their DPS
- because e-peen
- because they're simply used to doing it
- because they think it's common courtesy to show they're contributing to the fight
- because they don't want to be kicked and want to show it's not their fault if overall group DPS is on the lower end
- because it's shorter to paste it into chat than to look it up in a separate window
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or a million other reasons.

I agree it can be annoying though, but... PUGs cannot always be like we would like them to be. If we want to run only with people we like, we must stick with guildies and friends.

Docmandu · November 2016

Mayrael wrote: »

1. When I play tank or heal its good to know that dps actually deals some damage not just spam useles skills.

Don't need them to post their DPS for that... you can see your own contribution to the total damage, so you know if you as a healer/tank do 40-60% of the damage, that some fights will get "interesting".

Dymence · November 2016

Docmandu wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

1. When I play tank or heal its good to know that dps actually deals some damage not just spam useles skills.

Don't need them to post their DPS for that... you can see your own contribution to the total damage, so you know if you as a healer/tank do 40-60% of the damage, that some fights will get "interesting".

Had a pug where I did 4k DPS as tank which was 30% group damage. Rip my life

deevoh1991 · November 2016

I've never seen such a thing being posted and even if the number is plus 20 trillion, I won't really care since it's irrelevant to my gameplay

KochDerDamonen · November 2016

I'll take meter readouts over dead silence or inane whining any day of the week.

Normal conversation is nicer, sometimes these things lead into that.

There's no reason to be upset or make assumptions about people when they share simple information.

DoccEff · November 2016

So many comments about such an unimportant topic.
It's only one line in chat. Some people simply like to share it if they think they did well. If you want to go through a dungeon without communicating with your group, turn off the chat. Problem solved.

ValkynSketha · November 2016

I don't have any issue dds posting numbers, what i have issue is these ungrateful dds that don't say thank you to my buffs(prayer, drain, aether, spc, minor sorcery), resources support while keeping them alive.

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bottleofsyrup · November 2016

ValkynSketha wrote: »

I don't have any issue dds posting numbers, what i have issue is these ungrateful dds that don't say thank you to my buffs(prayer, drain, aether, spc, minor sorcery), resources support while keeping them alive. .

Why should they? You're doing your job, they're doing theirs. If you're doing an exceptionally good job it might be nice to hear it, but doesn't make them "ungrateful".

redspecter23 · November 2016

Do they have an addon that will post to the group your percentage of damage done? I know you can see it yourself, but not sure if any will post it to chat.

"Your dps in that last fight was 31,534 providing 94.5% of the entire group dps on that boss"

Is much more enlightening to a group than the standard message that just gets ignored unless you wanted to read it.

I figure if anyone else in the group actually cares about my dps, they'll have FTC damage sharing enabled so they can just see it themselves.

ValkynSketha · November 2016

bottleofsyrup wrote: »

ValkynSketha wrote: »

I don't have any issue dds posting numbers, what i have issue is these ungrateful dds that don't say thank you to my buffs(prayer, drain, aether, spc, minor sorcery), resources support while keeping them alive. .

Why should they? You're doing your job, they're doing theirs. If you're doing an exceptionally good job it might be nice to hear it, but doesn't make them "ungrateful".

But

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OrphanHelgen · November 2016

Im the one posting high dps number after every boss fight, and will tell you why I do it.

First of all, calm down. if you are doing a vet dungeon and have dd who can pull 50k dps, then you should be happy. Those pugs are rare. I also know a few healers who are interested in what dps I get, which also means if I get extreemly high, the buffs are spot on as well. This is also a way to improve in this game, and to be fair, those people (me) who care alot of dps, are the main reason people who dont care (you) are able to complete a veteran dungeon easy. Funny you mentioned the ignore list, because I did the same last week with a tank who didnt care about dps, running around with corrosive armor and selfish tank stats. Other dd was very low dps and didnt care either. City of ash veteran pledge hardmode, yes sure lets do that. Barely killed it on last platform number 3. I posted lower number then usual since I didnt get any buffs, I think it was 35k or something, but still 80% of group dps in combat meteics.

I always think: if it was 4 of me, how would we complete this? Am I the reason we cant complete? I can tell you right now, 4 of me I would'nt even need to taunt the boss before it died. 4 of you, you would ignorelist yourself and ragequit the dungeon.

With this attitude you should always no matter what situation, do only normal dungeons and never anything that has the word veteran in it, even more importent a 12 man raid. People dont deserve having you on their team. A player like you should stick to soloquesting only.

Mayrael · November 2016

Docmandu wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

1. When I play tank or heal its good to know that dps actually deals some damage not just spam useles skills.

Don't need them to post their DPS for that... you can see your own contribution to the total damage, so you know if you as a healer/tank do 40-60% of the damage, that some fights will get "interesting".

Yeah when im in my DPS tank setup for easier dungs usualy I do something like 25-35% of total damage. When Im in full tank setup its like 5% but, you can have situation where one dps does 60%, I do 10%, healer 10%, so one dps is what? 20%? Sorry but no thank you for bosses like Skoria, Velidreth, Selene or even daedroth in CoAII. There are bosses that need to be burned down asap or you will simply hit unbreakable barrier and even best healer and tank wont help you. If even one of your DPSs is to weak, you wont break it.

bottleofsyrup · November 2016

ValkynSketha wrote: »

bottleofsyrup wrote: »

ValkynSketha wrote: »

I don't have any issue dds posting numbers, what i have issue is these ungrateful dds that don't say thank you to my buffs(prayer, drain, aether, spc, minor sorcery), resources support while keeping them alive. .

Why should they? You're doing your job, they're doing theirs. If you're doing an exceptionally good job it might be nice to hear it, but doesn't make them "ungrateful".

But ...

Most likely, though, they don't even notice. I do because I tend to notice details like that and I recently started healing myself (about a month ago), so it's easy to tell between the BoL spammer and the healer using HoTs and buffs/resource management. Because of that I will be like, "Thanks for the heals!" before we disband, just not "Thanks for this and this and that."

modaretto · November 2016

haha yea dps so evil, let's find 10k dds on aoe and spend 1 hour in banished cells xD

Reverb · November 2016

ValkynSketha wrote: »

I don't have any issue dds posting numbers, what i have issue is these ungrateful dds that don't say thank you to my buffs(prayer, drain, aether, spc, minor sorcery), resources support while keeping them alive. .

No one ever thanks me for that, and I don't expect it. That would be like expecting the tank to thank me for shards. That's just silly. When I'm healing, I don't need the party acknowledging my buffs or heals to somehow feel validated, I know I'm doing my job.

modaretto · November 2016

Reverb wrote: »

ValkynSketha wrote: »

I don't have any issue dds posting numbers, what i have issue is these ungrateful dds that don't say thank you to my buffs(prayer, drain, aether, spc, minor sorcery), resources support while keeping them alive. .

No one ever thanks me for that, and I don't expect it. That would be like expecting the tank to thank me for shards. That's just silly. When I'm healing, I don't need the party acknowledging my buffs or heals to somehow feel validated, I know I'm doing my job.

I am grateful for a tank that doesn't pull a boss out of standard, I am grateful for dds that actually do have the damage, and even more to a healer because if he can give buffs that's around +10k dps per a dd. I check all buffs myself, i see group dps, I always mention when I see someone doing good in a pledge just because it is so rare. I don't see why it always should be about the negative that someone is doing bad and why not actually reward the people who save you time and effort in a pledge.

anitajoneb17_ESO · November 2016

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

those people (me) who care alot of dps, are the main reason people who dont care (you) are able to complete a veteran dungeontrial easy.

Fixed that for you. 30K+ DPS aren't required in vet dungeons. 20K is fine.

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

4 of me I would'nt even need to taunt the boss before it died.

Why do you PUG then instead of running with 3 others "like you" ? If you have expectations, don't PUG.

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

People dont deserve having you on their team. A player like you should stick to soloquesting only.

That's very untrue. Part of teaming up with other people in an MMO is to make up for others' weaknesses with our strength and vice-versa. Those who don't get that are the ones that should stick to solo questing only. Or, at least, to grouping up with their guildies of choice.

NewBlacksmurf · November 2016

I'm off PC now and on Xbox one but honestly I've never understood the logic in any game.

The meter...in my opinion...should be for the person who wants the info and not assumed that others want it cause they can get the add-on or they will ask that you msg them it.

I often see this as ppl who want to display their number compared to others however....here's the problem.
You shouldn't be competing against one another, you should be working together so if it's all about whose doing the most DPS, then your not working together cause the only way to always have the highest dps is often without support skills but while asking for others to support you.

It's what often kills group play which is often why ppl get kick happy and only want certain metas and such.

DPShiro · November 2016

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Im the one posting high dps number after every boss fight, and will tell you why I do it.

First of all, calm down. if you are doing a vet dungeon and have dd who can pull 50k dps, then you should be happy. Those pugs are rare. I also know a few healers who are interested in what dps I get, which also means if I get extreemly high, the buffs are spot on as well. This is also a way to improve in this game, and to be fair, those people (me) who care alot of dps, are the main reason people who dont care (you) are able to complete a veteran dungeon easy. Funny you mentioned the ignore list, because I did the same last week with a tank who didnt care about dps, running around with corrosive armor and selfish tank stats. Other dd was very low dps and didnt care either. City of ash veteran pledge hardmode, yes sure lets do that. Barely killed it on last platform number 3. I posted lower number then usual since I didnt get any buffs, I think it was 35k or something, but still 80% of group dps in combat meteics.

I always think: if it was 4 of me, how would we complete this? Am I the reason we cant complete? I can tell you right now, 4 of me I would'nt even need to taunt the boss before it died. 4 of you, you would ignorelist yourself and ragequit the dungeon.

With this attitude you should always no matter what situation, do only normal dungeons and never anything that has the word veteran in it, even more importent a 12 man raid. People dont deserve having you on their team. A player like you should stick to soloquesting only.

Very well said, completely agree.

DMuehlhausen · November 2016

Ozstryker wrote: »

Cos u NEED to know how awesome their numbers are...

My opinion, dps meters ruin MMO's

The biggest issue to MMOs is Gearscore mods. Then yes DPS meters.

Mojmir · November 2016

its great when they die to trash mobs and then blame the game. posting your DPS is sign of small genitalia.

G0ku · November 2016

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Im the one posting high dps number after every boss fight, and will tell you why I do it.

First of all, calm down. if you are doing a vet dungeon and have dd who can pull 50k dps, then you should be happy. Those pugs are rare. I also know a few healers who are interested in what dps I get, which also means if I get extreemly high, the buffs are spot on as well. This is also a way to improve in this game, and to be fair, those people (me) who care alot of dps, are the main reason people who dont care (you) are able to complete a veteran dungeon easy. Funny you mentioned the ignore list, because I did the same last week with a tank who didnt care about dps, running around with corrosive armor and selfish tank stats. Other dd was very low dps and didnt care either. City of ash veteran pledge hardmode, yes sure lets do that. Barely killed it on last platform number 3. I posted lower number then usual since I didnt get any buffs, I think it was 35k or something, but still 80% of group dps in combat meteics.

I always think: if it was 4 of me, how would we complete this? Am I the reason we cant complete? I can tell you right now, 4 of me I would'nt even need to taunt the boss before it died. 4 of you, you would ignorelist yourself and ragequit the dungeon.

With this attitude you should always no matter what situation, do only normal dungeons and never anything that has the word veteran in it, even more importent a 12 man raid. People dont deserve having you on their team. A player like you should stick to soloquesting only.

Thought about how to put in into text, but you nailed it sir.

idk · November 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

@raidentenshu_ESO

Which is the bigger isssue? The one who posts their dps in chat or complaining about it in the forums.

Think about it.

MasterPerceval · November 2016

Just eh

Chill, care less about stuff and not take yourself too serious.

Peace out

Elijah_Crow · November 2016

DPS Meters are a tool for measuring how effective you can be in challenging content. If you want to be better and complete more challenging content as a DPS character and aren't using one, then you aren't using all the tools available to you.

Im fine with everyone having characters that they play as they want regardless of how much DPS they do. But don't stick your head in the sand and just cross your fingers hoping to complete that Vet Hard Mode.

Anyone who plays a DPS and wants to complete progressive content is using one, or you aren't really serious about getting better. DPS isn't everything when it comes to challenging content, but it is one the key roles which will determine if you can complete it.

The next time you are struggling In a pug, ask your DPS to post their parses to chat after a wipe. Chances are, your DPSs aren't using a DPS meter at all.

You don't complete challenging content by accident. Having a DPS meter doesn't change actual damage, it just gives you knowledge. Why be afraid of knowledge?

Saturn · November 2016

Sure for some it may be an egotistical / narcissistic thing, showing how "good" you are, but for others it's like a friendly competition. I tend to post my DPS to see if I'm as good as other people in my group, but also to show what I contributed. Sure, DPS meters breed elitism, but it's a very valid concern if you are doing serious content whether your group members are actually carrying their own weight or not, and a DPS meter is the exact way to show that. Healers and Tanks don't need to post anything, because if they aren't doing their job well enough it's extremely obvious.

So while you may say it's not a good thing for the game, I would argue that it's an important tool for serious PvE guilds. Or just anyone who strives to become better at their role, since after all, a DPS's job is to kill stuff as fast as possible, otherwise the name of the role wouldn't literally translate to "damage per second".

threefarms · November 2016

What are you talking about? Oh wait, I play on the PS4.

flizomica · November 2016

because i want people to see how cool i am..