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I just can't anymore
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hey guys I think I'll go to Cyrodiil and see what is going on!
Ok nevermind I'll just go back to farming world bosses I guess.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.18 -
Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm with the OP on this one. Sets that have a "Chance" to do extra damage do not belong in skilled PVP play. When fighting another competitor, it should never come down to CHANCE. It should be about gear and skill, none of this proc set crap. Leave them for PVE and out of PVP period.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler Lets leave chance out of PVP. I seriously doubt this was the PVP you envisioned. Put all Proc sets to PVE only where they belong please.
The longer that this is allowed in PVP, the more and more people that will quit this game because of it.NA Server - Kildair6 -
Digerati✭✭✭✭Why isn't anyone crying about the people who have 60k+ HP and can /emote while 5 people are viper-proccing on them?
Take procs out of Cyrodiil and there's a bunch of people who will be unkillable.1 -
Cazzy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The funny thing is, they close threads and offer terrible support implying that the problem lies with us. I don't think I've seen them take responsibility for a lot of issues. Even understanding seems to be beyond them
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HoloYoitsu✭✭✭✭✭
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Because dealing with trollplars is a L2P issue. The Potatos that stack over 60k hp do so at the sacrifice of every other stat and do no dmg outside of blazing shield. They are perfectly killable without using any proctato sets: mag poisons/heal debuffs/constant CC run them out of resources and then all they are is a big hp pool that can't do anything as it dies. Adding negate/destro ult/or banner just makes it trivial.Why isn't anyone crying about the people who have 60k+ HP and can /emote while 5 people are viper-proccing on them?
Take procs out of Cyrodiil and there's a bunch of people who will be unkillable.
Trollplars are older than the proctato meta, telling me they would be unkillable without your precious proctating is just a load of BS. The actual dangerous Templars are the ones running 30k health with Valkyn, stacking up all the dots and spamming jabs on you.
That attitude is more a result of the mass proctato mindset of people who have been conditioned to a playstyle of just "dps dps dps = win", and anything that doesn't conform by dying to that is "OP". You see the same people QQing about heavy armor being "too tanky", when the actual issue is that jewelry and 2 piece proc sets can be combo'd with heavy armor to provide an inordinate amount of DPS.Edited by HoloYoitsu on November 27, 2016 10:07PM10 -
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Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
It's funny how people are focusing on that instead of Surprise Attack into radiant destruction.
He was clearly being killed by multiple people.
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HoloYoitsu✭✭✭✭✭
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And your point about multiple people....?HoloYoitsu wrote: »
It's funny how people are focusing on that instead of Surprise Attack into radiant destruction.
He was clearly being killed by multiple people.
OMG BALANCE!
That's still just 2 abilities that only did 11k dmg on their own - and the radiant wouldn't even have done anywhere near that if the vipertato procs hadn't pushed his health so low.
When half the dmg taken isn't even from actual abilities, but just a 100% proc rate rate set, how can you come in here and play it off as not being a balance issue?
At least try and put some Sweet n Low in your koolaid before telling us to drink it.Edited by HoloYoitsu on November 27, 2016 10:51PM6 -
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✭Why isn't anyone crying about the people who have 60k+ HP and can /emote while 5 people are viper-proccing on them?
Take procs out of Cyrodiil and there's a bunch of people who will be unkillable.
Those builds have zero damage output, next to no mobility, and can be easily ignored while you kill all of their friends. They've also been around since the Thieves Guild patch, long before proc sets and heavy armor became the norm, and they died just fine back then. You don't need procs to kill them.ＦＯＲＵＭＰＬＡＲ
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SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭*** on this forum is getting completely unbearable. People getting outplayed constantly but thinking that would have done better if meta sets would be different makes me laugh so hard. Heads up, you are not as good as you think and you don't know as much either.
As said, game is more balanced than ever was before from every point of view. Comparing effectiveness of classes and specs. On 1v1s, 1vXs, small or large scale.
But apparently playing glass cannon and having horrendous positioning thus getting constantly ganked or one shot means there is no balance.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
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Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭Obvious L2P issue. Didn't run Rune Prison or Encase while facing multiple attackers.
Seriously tho, nerf Magika Sorcs. I was almost killed by one today running a Stam DK build. Not cool.1 -
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More balanced than ever!? Toys R Us called, they want their Mr. Potato Head back.*** on this forum is getting completely unbearable. People getting outplayed constantly but thinking that would have done better if meta sets would be different makes me laugh so hard. Heads up, you are not as good as you think and you don't know as much either.
As said, game is more balanced than ever was before from every point of view. Comparing effectiveness of classes and specs. On 1v1s, 1vXs, small or large scale.
But apparently playing glass cannon and having horrendous positioning thus getting constantly ganked or one shot means there is no balance.
The amount of erroneous gravy in your post leads me to conclude you must be trolling.13 -
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✭✭✭Reduce all burst damage by about 10% and make a new stat for Healing so it doesn't run off Weapon and Spell Damage and the results should be interesting
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✭Still think animation cancelling is a bigger cancer than proc sets. The fact that NB's can land an ambush, heavy attack surprise attack combo all at once from stealth is BS, I'll take on proc sets any day over that garbage....NA PC | AD
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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Still think animation cancelling is a bigger cancer than proc sets. The fact that NB's can land an ambush, heavy attack surprise attack combo all at once from stealth is BS, I'll take on proc sets any day over that garbage....
Heavy Attack -> Viper's Sting -> Ambush -> Velidreth -> Surprise Attack
Still wanna take on them proc sets?Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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AtraisMachina✭✭✭Idk what your point is. You died from procs and that makes pvp bad???? Nononono my friend pvp has always been garbage..... always.Edited by AtraisMachina on November 27, 2016 11:59PM0 -
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For someone who only played after console launch and never even experienced the lag free PvP of PC launch, or 1.5, you aren't qualified to make that statement.AtraisMachina wrote: »Idk what your point is. You died from procs and that makes pvp bad???? Nononono my friend pvp has always been garbage..... always.9 -
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Still think animation cancelling is a bigger cancer than proc sets. The fact that NB's can land an ambush, heavy attack surprise attack combo all at once from stealth is BS, I'll take on proc sets any day over that garbage....
Heavy Attack -> Viper's Sting -> Ambush -> Velidreth -> Surprise Attack
Still wanna take on them proc sets?
I can't imagine it being as bad on PS4, sure you'd have some good players timing their attacks well but you won't have the macro uses who have perfectly timed combos every time....NA PC | AD
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CowNRB✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Still think animation cancelling is a bigger cancer than proc sets. The fact that NB's can land an ambush, heavy attack surprise attack combo all at once from stealth is BS, I'll take on proc sets any day over that garbage....
Heavy Attack -> Viper's Sting -> Ambush -> Velidreth -> Surprise Attack
Still wanna take on them proc sets?
I can't imagine it being as bad on PS4, sure you'd have some good players timing their attacks well but you won't have the macro uses who have perfectly timed combos every time....
Ye but proc sets are hurting all platforms not just PC (at least if your statement is true don't play much Xbox one PvP to know if macros are a thing on consoles)0 -
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✭✭I dunno dude, I think you should try using rune prison or encase to even those odds.skingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
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✭✭✭✭✭The funny thing is, they close threads and offer terrible support implying that the problem lies with us. I don't think I've seen them take responsibility for a lot of issues. Even understanding seems to be beyond them
You are right . Their number one play is to deny then after a year later write a story about a dev that had a strange experience with their kid and make the correct change then as if it was their realization and idea to revert the mistake . The worst part is a lot of people buy it and then thank them .Edited by Rohamad_Ali on November 28, 2016 3:31AM3 -
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✭Also . . . I REALLY do think collision detection should be a thing in Cyrodil, then you wouldnt have 10 people stacked in a corner who can spam destroy ults and wreck 50 people or vice versa.1 -
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✭Also . . . I REALLY do think collision detection should be a thing in Cyrodil, then you wouldnt have 10 people stacked in a corner who can spam destroy ults and wreck 50 people or vice versa.
I also I think collision detection would enourage more one on one melee battles because 3 people cannot occupy the same space and attack one person etc.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Also . . . I REALLY do think collision detection should be a thing in Cyrodil, then you wouldnt have 10 people stacked in a corner who can spam destroy ults and wreck 50 people or vice versa.
Lol that would a nightmare man xD
DC have a hard enough time getting through breaches while showering in oil as it is.
Edited by Alucardo on November 28, 2016 4:27AM1 -
Messy1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Also . . . I REALLY do think collision detection should be a thing in Cyrodil, then you wouldnt have 10 people stacked in a corner who can spam destroy ults and wreck 50 people or vice versa.
Lol that would a nightmare man xD
DC have a hard enough time getting through breaches while showering in oil as it is.
That's why you would wait for the low level pug groups to die in the breach first then climb over the bodies . . . Oh wait then it would look like this:
Edited by Messy1 on November 28, 2016 5:05AM0 -
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Did Viper's Sting just proc itself?[/quote]
Yeh I think so, I also think it just proc'ed on the forums. Holy moly!Edited by sirston on November 28, 2016 4:46AMWhitestakes Revenge
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