Aetheric Cipher - Does it drop in delves, dungeons, public dungeons and dolmens?

P3ZZL3 · November 2016

Only one thing for it....

Bad_Company · November 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

Has anyone actually gotten one of these items? I am also starting to believe it is bugged, no way would an increased XP item be this absurdly rare to the point of no profits from getting it

It is so rare that by the time you get it you don't need it anymore

luen79rwb17_ESO · November 2016

Maybe the crown crate version is just as rare too

Runs · November 2016

I keep wondering if there are any ciphers now sitting in the inventory of the free players, who will never purchase the game.

Also what if... and I do understand it's a big tin foil hat "what if", but still. What if, even though it has a chance to drop on all base game zones, it only drops for characters who are in their own factions zone. I know it's far fetched, but I could see something like this being done.

*Slowly puts the skooma pipe down*

SublimeSparo · November 2016

Knowing zos and zos maths with rounding and truncation , i wouldn't be surprised to learn the drop rate rounded down to 0

Flynch · November 2016

I should imagine they will raise or lower the drop-rate once they've seen how the store purchases pan out.

helediron · November 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

thats kinda funny if it doesnt exist

Oh, i think it exists but is incredibly rare like golden motif books. But people linking to Cipher are probably all fake links.

Ashtaris · November 2016

Well obviously the Cipher is extremely rare. Someone posted in the Craglorn zone chat offering 1.5 million gold for the Cipher, and a 100K finders fee for anyone who helps with a successful transaction. LOL, no thank you. I don't need the XP scrolls that badly.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · November 2016

Ashtaris wrote: »

Well obviously the Cipher is extremely rare. Someone posted in the Craglorn zone chat offering 1.5 million gold for the Cipher, and a 100K finders fee for anyone who helps with a successful transaction. LOL, no thank you. I don't need the XP scrolls that badly.

Yeah one of our guild leader was sending people out to different zones to chat wtb Cipher 1.5 million. No luck that i know of.

Manoekin · November 2016

It doesn't exist. If there's anything I've learned playing MMO's it's that it doesn't matter one bit what the drop rate is, it WILL drop. Probably not for you, but for someone. There is nothing that can't be gained through sheer effort and luck.

Wreuntzylla · November 2016

Ashtaris wrote: »

Well obviously the Cipher is extremely rare. Someone posted in the Craglorn zone chat offering 1.5 million gold for the Cipher, and a 100K finders fee for anyone who helps with a successful transaction. LOL, no thank you. I don't need the XP scrolls that badly.

Wow, common business practices employed within ESO!

Monster = that which drops monster sets? I mean, a bear or a skeever isn't exactly a monster.

Nestor · November 2016

Hmmm, this is quite interesting

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/304694/hotfix-11-22-16-aetheric-cipher-drop-rate-pc-mac-only#latest

Maybe now we might see this stuff......

saf227_ESO · November 2016

Ashtaris wrote: »

Well obviously the Cipher is extremely rare. Someone posted in the Craglorn zone chat offering 1.5 million gold for the Cipher, and a 100K finders fee for anyone who helps with a successful transaction. LOL, no thank you. I don't need the XP scrolls that badly.

I can confirm 1 sale in one of my guilds. 5 Mil gold.

Mic1007 · November 2016

Ashtaris wrote: »

Well obviously the Cipher is extremely rare. Someone posted in the Craglorn zone chat offering 1.5 million gold for the Cipher, and a 100K finders fee for anyone who helps with a successful transaction. LOL, no thank you. I don't need the XP scrolls that badly.

They'll make back that gold in no time no that they have the ability to craft the stuff. Now the guy who bought it for 5 million gold is gonna have a hard time breaking even.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · November 2016

helediron wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

thats kinda funny if it doesnt exist

Oh, i think it exists but is incredibly rare like golden motif books. But people linking to Cipher are probably all fake links.

In other words I will never get one. Been playing since launch and haven't gotten a single gold book. I have hardly gotten any of the original purple motif books either.

f047ys3v3n · November 2016

I'm a little confused about this whole new gold xp pot thing. XP is dropping from the sky now with virtually every mob yielding full XP, huge, long, double XP events, and a very steep champ point catch up curve. With the cap at 561CP and not going anywhere very fast why does anybody care? It doesn't seem to me that it can possibly take very long for new players to reach cap and they don't have any gold to buy the stuff anyway.

Particularly regarding the dust I don't understand. 1 dust makes what, 4 xp boosts. I see it going for 130k. Seems crazy to me. I don't think I would have paid that back when CP were 400k xp and I could use all of them I had.

Aliyavana · November 2016

still no word on this drom zos is really not suprising considering how maybe lack of information would help funnel more players into buying crown scrolls after farming in delves and other places when its not even dropping in those and they have yet to confirm if it does and if not we are wasting our time if not in overland

Rune_Relic · November 2016

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

I'm a little confused about this whole new gold xp pot thing. XP is dropping from the sky now with virtually every mob yielding full XP, huge, long, double XP events, and a very steep champ point catch up curve. With the cap at 561CP and not going anywhere very fast why does anybody care? It doesn't seem to me that it can possibly take very long for new players to reach cap and they don't have any gold to buy the stuff anyway.

Particularly regarding the dust I don't understand. 1 dust makes what, 4 xp boosts. I see it going for 130k. Seems crazy to me. I don't think I would have paid that back when CP were 400k xp and I could use all of them I had.

Since when has business been rational ?
shhh! ....just join the hype train and pay ludicrous amounts of gold.

Glaiceana · November 2016

@Reverb Ok, so my boyfriend has just found data on the actual drink, which means that the actual Cipher has indeed been found, screenshot below:

This is data from MM on PC/EU.
Considering the value of the Cipher itself, I doubt it will ever be sold in traders, BUT, this does indeed prove that someone (at least two people) have indeed found it and crafted the drink!

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · November 2016

Glaiceana wrote: »

@Reverb Ok, so my boyfriend has just found data on the actual drink, which means that the actual Cipher has indeed been found, screenshot below:

This is data from MM on PC/EU.
Considering the value of the Cipher itself, I doubt it will ever be sold in traders, BUT, this does indeed prove that someone (at least two people) have indeed found it and crafted the drink!

Jeez 50k for a drink. I did sell some Aetherial Dust for 110K though so I guess it doesn't surprise me that much.

Asardes · November 2016

Spent time fishing for roe is better spent running actual content. Not to mention time spent hunting for fool's dust or whatever it's called. It's amazing that people haven't even realized that such items are just huge time sinks. I've never subbed, used any XP modifiers, save the 2 special events this year - Jubilee and Witches Festival - and was able to gain exactly 713 CP between the date of 23.11.2015, when my 1st char reached level 50, and 23.11.2016. There were actually 753, but 40 were given when vet ranks were deleted, at DB release. And I've never grinded. Just played a lot, mainly group dungeons. I have 760 at this moment and still gaining about 4 every 5 days or so.

Soundwave · November 2016

The whole point of these options are for the new players. If u started now at CP 1, 561 is very far away and especially if zos want new players to stick around. The gap has to close fast or players will continue to come and go.

Reverb · November 2016

Glaiceana wrote: »

@Reverb Ok, so my boyfriend has just found data on the actual drink, which means that the actual Cipher has indeed been found, screenshot below:

This is data from MM on PC/EU.
Considering the value of the Cipher itself, I doubt it will ever be sold in traders, BUT, this does indeed prove that someone (at least two people) have indeed found it and crafted the drink!

Yeah, it started dropping right after they did the hotfix a couple of days after we started this thread. Almost immediately the Cipher started being found and sold. The timing of it lends credibility to my theory that Zeni didn't actually activate it in the loot table when they said they did. Only after we complained for a week did they say "whoops, hotfix".

GaldorP · November 2016

Too bad we still don't know if the ciphers can drop in delves, public dungeons and other (quest-related) sub-zones or only on the main overland maps of the zones mentioned in the patch notes.

WldKarde · November 2016

And this is why I just play the game

If one ever drops into my lap...well then I'll wonder whether or not to use or sell.

Until then, I'll just do what I do, and play as I have since the start...

Until they releases the Gawd Awful Crown Crates...that is

You're walking a VERY tight rope at the minute ZOS....

I do hope you aren't playing games yourselves

Fudly_budly · November 2016

WldKarde wrote: »

And this is why I just play the game

If one ever drops into my lap...well then I'll wonder whether or not to use or sell.

IKR... Been playing since Jan 2016 and last week in a lonely Malabal Tor dwarven ruin foyer... Imperial Style Motif! Now it sits in my bank. Idk what to do with it. LOL
I'm sure if I got a cipher, my game would crash and roll back 1 minute!

Pallio · November 2016

In reality, ultra rare/ultra expensive means of attaining 150% xp boost for 30min, would make 150% for 2hrs for real $$ look very good. When you go xmas shopping, notice the very expensive item next to a similar much cheaper item? This is intentional so they sell tons of the "cheaper" item. If they just came out with a new more expensive crown xp scroll at 150% for a ton of $$, people would freak out, so it has to, at least, exist in the game, affordable or not.

Korah_Eaglecry · November 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

It doesn't actually drop. Not from any monsters, anywhere, despite thousands of players having spent a week grinding for it. Most of us are thinking that Zeni failed to activate it in the loot table.

I think they did include them in the loot table, but I think the drop rate is so low that it is functionally the same as not being in the loot table. They really don't want us to have this item.

Cant have you mucking up their chances of selling them XP pots in the Crown Crates.

Asardes · November 2016

CP doesn't actually mean much. I've met CP300 players who played very well, even a flawless conqueror with ~CP340 and CP500+ who made me laugh hard: wrecking blow spammers, snipe spammers, ambush spammers, heavy staff attack and one ability spammers, hard frag casters etc. Having loads of CP earned running endless laps in Imperial City Sewers, nuking bears in Auridon or zombies at the Sentinel docks, with or without chugging expensive potions, does not add to real experience, simply increments a number. Behind that number there's still a scrub.

Runs · December 2016

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/306883/atheric-ciper-price-check#latest

Just throwing this link in here, as an Xbox player has mentioned finding a Cipher in Wayrest Sewers. So at least we know there is a possibility in dungeons. I will personally assume publics and delves also have a chance now.

For me personally finding one has nothing to do with exp. I want my provisioner to be able to make every recipe, even ones that will never be used.