Ya, make a nightmare mode. Small Group pve is already easy. Just give 100% gold drops on bosses.

I want to say yes, cause I know it'd mean other players who are stronger than I am would get a potential can of whoop *** whenever they'd try and take my precious Resource.

I want to say no, cause the whoop *** would also be applied to me. And fighting mobs in Cyrodiil is already hard enough.

Would they all have the same crit rate? And if so, what would it be? If not, what would determine the crit rate and would that value be made available to the player base? Or would we be left to test and figure it out for ourselves?

I guess I'd want more details on how it would be implemented, but I'm leaning towards no.

Danksta wrote: »

Would they all have the same crit rate? And if so, what would it be? If not, what would determine the crit rate and would that value be made available to the player base? Or would we be left to test and figure it out for ourselves?

I guess I'd want more details on how it would be implemented, but I'm leaning towards no.

Like us they'd all have at least a 10% chance to land a Critical Hit. Anything beyond that depends on Zenimax and the enemy.

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Dps would still rock all divines because their goal is to deal damage and not be hit. If you got the right tank and healer you rarely even need to clap for your shields as a sorc in a trial. I don't see why not. But I also hate that it may slightly drive up the prices for impen dropped sets

@DannyLV702 What about Malestorm?

DschiPeunt wrote: »

First of all: the given answers are dumb.

Second of all: have you any clue of endgame raiding? Have you ever tanked the warrior on vet mode? Just as an example. Critting NPCs are a nonsense RNG factor. If a mechanic should kill a DD, then make the base damage high enough. There is no need to put tanks under higher pressure, because you want to make a trait more unique. Crit resistance is for PvP. So what?

And you think your response is any less dumb? It's not about the trait, it's about the increased danger sense. A chance to take extra damage makes people more cautious and thus guard themselves better. An overall increase in base damage is just what others would call "Nightmare Mode".

If you wanna make it about the trait though how about the fact that you wouldn't necessarily NEED to change gear when you switch from PvP to PvE gear if said PvP gear is a set or sets that can work in PvE too if they happen to be Impenetrable.

Nebthet78 wrote: »

There are already enough One-Shot mechanics in PVE dungeons, we don't need to add more.

Only because DPS builds are so rampantly popular and encouraged by Zenimax above all among the playerbase. As we have been saying and they probably know it, Zenimax does not know how to balance things.

Woeler wrote: »

Crit Rakkhat barage in hardmode, crit warrior swipes in hardmode, yea sure. OP definitely hasn't seen all of the actually hard bosses in this game.

Irrelevant, the point here is to promote defensive play because the power creep needs to be contested. If it's more present in the absolute endgame then that's fine and all but everywhere else it's all about DPS. That needs to change. More danger factors is a good way to do it.

Woeler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Crit Rakkhat barage in hardmode, crit warrior swipes in hardmode, yea sure. OP definitely hasn't seen all of the actually hard bosses in this game.

Irrelevant, the point here is to promote defensive play because the power creep needs to be contested. If it's more present in the absolute endgame then that's fine and all but everywhere else it's all about DPS. That needs to change. More danger factors is a good way to do it.

You're a special person to argue with, aren't you?

Lol and then you edit your post.

You can't really deny that defense is pretty lacking in much of this game, mainly because people feel it isn't necessary in those areas. It would be more necessary if people had more reason to apply it. In group play Tanks can take on the aggro to be the defense of the team as the Healers keep them and anyone else alive while the Damagers do their thing, but in solo play there is hardly a reason to properly guard yourself and many elect to go all-out in PvP as a do or die. What I'm getting at is this game's balance isn't in its abilities and its enemies but in how Zenimax is treating roles.

Don't you people get bored doing the same old runs all the time? There is literally no environmental factor to change things up, you just learn the mechanics, make your build, and victory is yours. No luck factors mean no real sense of danger once you have things down pat, even for the absolute endgame. The least Zenimax could do is add at least a small chance for mobs to critically hit.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Crit Rakkhat barage in hardmode, crit warrior swipes in hardmode, yea sure. OP definitely hasn't seen all of the actually hard bosses in this game.

Irrelevant, the point here is to promote defensive play because the power creep needs to be contested. If it's more present in the absolute endgame then that's fine and all but everywhere else it's all about DPS. That needs to change. More danger factors is a good way to do it.

You're a special person to argue with, aren't you?

Lol and then you edit your post.

You can't really deny that defense is pretty lacking in much of this game, mainly because people feel it isn't necessary in those areas. It would be more necessary if people had more reason to apply it. In group play Tanks can take on the aggro to be the defense of the team as the Healers keep them and anyone else alive while the Damagers do their thing, but in solo play there is hardly a reason to properly guard yourself and many elect to go all-out in PvP as a do or die. What I'm getting at is this game's balance isn't in its abilities and its enemies but in how Zenimax is treating roles.

Don't you people get bored doing the same old runs all the time? There is literally no environmental factor to change things up, you just learn the mechanics, make your build, and victory is yours. No luck factors mean no real sense of danger once you have things down pat, even for the absolute endgame. The least Zenimax could do is add at least a small chance for mobs to critically hit.

No, because RNG has NOTHING to do with skill. Want to go for a score in maw, or no-death maw achievement? Ah, too bad, crit-hit meteor, oneshots a damage dealer. This has nothing to do with skill or being a good player it is just adding rng for the sake of nothing. A luck factor in something that should be based on how good a team plays is absolute nonsense, and frankly deserves to be ridiculed as multiple have done already.

So in other words you don't want anything to potentially interfere with your skill. Yeah, the only thing worth ridicule here is how lazy people are. Skill means nothing if there is nothing to contest it you know. Why do you think so many get bored and leave? Or just turn to PvP?

Ah so that's why only 36 people over all servers and platforms have no deah achievement in vmol. Because it's too easy and boring.

Woeler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Crit Rakkhat barage in hardmode, crit warrior swipes in hardmode, yea sure. OP definitely hasn't seen all of the actually hard bosses in this game.

Irrelevant, the point here is to promote defensive play because the power creep needs to be contested. If it's more present in the absolute endgame then that's fine and all but everywhere else it's all about DPS. That needs to change. More danger factors is a good way to do it.

You're a special person to argue with, aren't you?

Lol and then you edit your post.

You can't really deny that defense is pretty lacking in much of this game, mainly because people feel it isn't necessary in those areas. It would be more necessary if people had more reason to apply it. In group play Tanks can take on the aggro to be the defense of the team as the Healers keep them and anyone else alive while the Damagers do their thing, but in solo play there is hardly a reason to properly guard yourself and many elect to go all-out in PvP as a do or die. What I'm getting at is this game's balance isn't in its abilities and its enemies but in how Zenimax is treating roles.

Don't you people get bored doing the same old runs all the time? There is literally no environmental factor to change things up, you just learn the mechanics, make your build, and victory is yours. No luck factors mean no real sense of danger once you have things down pat, even for the absolute endgame. The least Zenimax could do is add at least a small chance for mobs to critically hit.

No, because RNG has NOTHING to do with skill. Want to go for a score in maw, or no-death maw achievement? Ah, too bad, crit-hit meteor, oneshots a damage dealer. This has nothing to do with skill or being a good player it is just adding rng for the sake of nothing. A luck factor in something that should be based on how good a team plays is absolute nonsense, and frankly deserves to be ridiculed as multiple have done already.

So in other words you don't want anything to potentially interfere with your skill. Yeah, the only thing worth ridicule here is how lazy people are. Skill means nothing if there is nothing to contest it you know. Why do you think so many get bored and leave? Or just turn to PvP?

Ah so that's why only 36 people over all servers and platforms have no deah achievement in vmol. Because it's too easy and boring.

Never said it was easy lol but for those that have done it already it could be. You'd be the expert on that opinion

Then again I suppose added danger factor would scare people away, making them believe it's not worth it. Still not a lot of incentive to dungeon crawl is there? But even so this isn't just about dungeons and endgame, it's about all of the game.

Derra wrote: »

ZOS is already only able to make their pve "challenging" by creating oneshots instead of coming up with actual clever mechanics.

Why would anyone want rgn oneshots on top of the planned ones - are you people serious?

Simple: Because it'd be more thrilling.