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Leki + Reactive + Pirate Skeleton in pve

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It's pretty fun, the combined dr means vet bosses hit for nothing. Reactive triggers on pretty much every hard hitting boss attack, the rest are usually aoe and leki softens most of that. If pirate procs the damage drops to triple digits. You can casually rez people while getting beat on by boss and adds.
  • Baconfat79
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    So you finally stopped using Chudan set, huh? I would say you're making progress, but this new loadout is even more absurd. You are a unique and special snowflake indeed.
  • LiquidSchwartz
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    pirate so gross tho
    May the Schwartz be with you.
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  • WalksonGraves
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    pirate so gross tho

    Looks amazing on Argonians.
  • WalksonGraves
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    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    So you finally stopped using Chudan set, huh? I would say you're making progress, but this new loadout is even more absurd. You are a unique and special snowflake indeed.

    Works better than the deltia build you struggle with.
  • AzuraKin
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    i run (well incomplete dont have monster helm or shield) beekeeper, green pact and once get helm troll king, also its currently only dw beekeeper as i dont have shields yet, and still need to find decisive swords (precise atm).
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    v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
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  • Malmai
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    Sound usless for group maybe you should invest something in ult regen to keep popin those warhorns...
    Edited by Malmai on November 20, 2016 11:29PM
  • Asardes
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    Try tanking Velidreth in that setup. I'm sure the healer will absolutely love the 2nd set bonus proc on top of the heal debuff the boss puts on you :D
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  • Grabmoore
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    I wouldn't want a reactive wearing tank in my group. The burden of being forced to run after adds is a no go! That's exactly the opposite a tank should do.


    Why Leki again? Are you a DD? In that case, I let you play... *cringe*

    You need mitigation? Use shuffle...
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  • Asardes
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    I saw an announcement on a guild chat. One guy was asking for DDs for a normal trial run, and asked specifically that they shouldn't bring PVP gear. Probably he was sick and tired of guys rolling around and putting green runes around that Manticora and the healer putting blue ribbons around everyone :)
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  • AzuraKin
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    know what i love about all the gear out there? amazingly high *** health regen. regen is like healing that um cannot be debuffed. who knew.
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  • WalksonGraves
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    Grabmoore wrote: »
    I wouldn't want a reactive wearing tank in my group. The burden of being forced to run after adds is a no go! That's exactly the opposite a tank should do.


    Why Leki again? Are you a DD? In that case, I let you play... *cringe*

    You need mitigation? Use shuffle...

    Why would reactive require running after trash? Hell why would a tank ever have to? You can taunt from range you know, backbar that ***.

    Here's a hint: all boss attacks are aoe other than heavy attacks. The 25%, 35% and 30% dr stacks.


  • Alucardo
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    Grabmoore wrote: »
    I wouldn't want a reactive wearing tank in my group. The burden of being forced to run after adds is a no go! That's exactly the opposite a tank should do.


    Why Leki again? Are you a DD? In that case, I let you play... *cringe*

    You need mitigation? Use shuffle...

    Why would reactive require running after trash? Hell why would a tank ever have to? You can taunt from range you know, backbar that ***.

    Here's a hint: all boss attacks are aoe other than heavy attacks. The 25%, 35% and 30% dr stacks.


    Because even if you taunt ranged mobs they will stay at range, meaning the damage dealers have to chase after them. A tanks job isn't just to take damage, but to control the fight and help by grouping trash mobs up to maximise the DPS of the group.
    Replace Pirate Skeleton with Swarm Mother so you can pull ranged adds in and you'll be loved by everyone.
  • WalksonGraves
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Grabmoore wrote: »
    I wouldn't want a reactive wearing tank in my group. The burden of being forced to run after adds is a no go! That's exactly the opposite a tank should do.


    Why Leki again? Are you a DD? In that case, I let you play... *cringe*

    You need mitigation? Use shuffle...

    Why would reactive require running after trash? Hell why would a tank ever have to? You can taunt from range you know, backbar that ***.

    Here's a hint: all boss attacks are aoe other than heavy attacks. The 25%, 35% and 30% dr stacks.


    Because even if you taunt ranged mobs they will stay at range, meaning the damage dealers have to chase after them. A tanks job isn't just to take damage, but to control the fight and help by grouping trash mobs up to maximise the DPS of the group.
    Replace Pirate Skeleton with Swarm Mother so you can pull ranged adds in and you'll be loved by everyone.

    Tried it, sm is garbage. Takes far longer to taunt, have the mob attack, block the mob than it takes range dps to burn. If your dps needs chains to succeed they aren't good dps.

    It's totally useless for anything but trash mobs which aren't a real concern.

    Your point still makes no sense since sm and reactive don't share slots.
  • Baconfat79
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    Here's a hint: all boss attacks are aoe other than heavy attacks.

    That is absolutely not true. As always, you are a fountain of misinformation.
  • Alucardo
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    Woeler wrote: »
    The worst thing about this topic is that nee people interested in tanking might read it.

    Hopefully the pug tanks don't see it
  • WalksonGraves
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    If any of you bothered to actually try anything you'd know it works. Pearls before swine.
    Edited by WalksonGraves on November 18, 2016 12:39PM
  • Asmael
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    "Overkill".

    Rings any bell? No? Too bad, because that's what you just did.

    Let's sacrifice the lamb of group support to the shrine of the immortal bricks of this world.
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  • WalksonGraves
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    There's no loss of group support, nb tanks are more flexible.
  • Sallington
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    There's non-meta builds, and then there's stuff like this.

    OP, try 5x Jailbreaker and 5x Spelunker.
    Edited by Sallington on November 18, 2016 12:56PM
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  • wazzz56
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    Sallington wrote: »
    There's non-meta builds, and then there's stuff like this.

    OP, try 5x Jailbreaker and 5x Spelunker.

    @Sallington Jailbreaker is great.....on my mat farmer.......
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  • Sallington
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    wazzz56 wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    There's non-meta builds, and then there's stuff like this.

    OP, try 5x Jailbreaker and 5x Spelunker.

    @Sallington Jailbreaker is great.....on my mat farmer.......

    My mat farmer is already an Orc stamSorc with hurricane for minor expedition :) Then I throw on Darkstride and fjord's and slot quick cloak or rapids.

    Makes Speedy Gonzales look like Regular Gonzalez.
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  • wazzz56
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    Sallington wrote: »
    wazzz56 wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    There's non-meta builds, and then there's stuff like this.

    OP, try 5x Jailbreaker and 5x Spelunker.

    @Sallington Jailbreaker is great.....on my mat farmer.......

    My mat farmer is already an Orc stamSorc with hurricane for minor expedition :) Then I throw on Darkstride and fjord's and slot quick cloak or rapids.

    Makes Speedy Gonzales look like Regular Gonzalez.

    jailbreaker and tbs with steed and stam regen mundas....pop rapids and fly around
    Edited by wazzz56 on November 18, 2016 1:45PM
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  • threefarms
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    Leave it to ZOS to zap the fun out of it.
  • acw37162
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    Sallington wrote: »
    wazzz56 wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    There's non-meta builds, and then there's stuff like this.

    OP, try 5x Jailbreaker and 5x Spelunker.

    @Sallington Jailbreaker is great.....on my mat farmer.......

    My mat farmer is already an Orc stamSorc with hurricane for minor expedition :) Then I throw on Darkstride and fjord's and slot quick cloak or rapids.

    Makes Speedy Gonzales look like Regular Gonzalez.

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    lol
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    acw37162 wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    wazzz56 wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    There's non-meta builds, and then there's stuff like this.

    OP, try 5x Jailbreaker and 5x Spelunker.

    @Sallington Jailbreaker is great.....on my mat farmer.......

    My mat farmer is already an Orc stamSorc with hurricane for minor expedition :) Then I throw on Darkstride and fjord's and slot quick cloak or rapids.

    Makes Speedy Gonzales look like Regular Gonzalez.

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  • paulsimonps
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    This set ups gives nothing to the group. You are only helping yourself. Your sets don't make it easier on the group, if anything you make it harder. Also I don't think you understand how damage mitigation works. The bosses will still hit for quite a bit, at least trial bosses. Mitigation has diminishing returns. And sure you are getting really high mitigation, but you are also adding nothing else to the group. People running Tavas, Dragon, Bloodspawn, Lord Warden, Alkosh, Ebon Armory, Lunar Bastion or Powerful assault are giving great buffs and debuffs for the group to use. That's why they are used. But all your sets simply just adds mitigation to you, one when you are CC'ed, the other when you are hit by AoE and the other when it procs. Its completely unnecessary. Here I would recommend you read this:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-and-list-of-options/p1
  • WalksonGraves
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    This set ups gives nothing to the group. You are only helping yourself. Your sets don't make it easier on the group, if anything you make it harder. Also I don't think you understand how damage mitigation works. The bosses will still hit for quite a bit, at least trial bosses. Mitigation has diminishing returns. And sure you are getting really high mitigation, but you are also adding nothing else to the group. People running Tavas, Dragon, Bloodspawn, Lord Warden, Alkosh, Ebon Armory, Lunar Bastion or Powerful assault are giving great buffs and debuffs for the group to use. That's why they are used. But all your sets simply just adds mitigation to you, one when you are CC'ed, the other when you are hit by AoE and the other when it procs. Its completely unnecessary. Here I would recommend you read this:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-and-list-of-options/p1

    I've read it before, what is your point?
    I already generate more ult than a dk in tavas, ebon is trash unless in a large group and even then imo its worthless. Smart groups have more than one person with warhorn anyways, maxing ult gen at the cost of survival is stupid for a tank.

    Alkosh is a dps set, there's no reason for me to waste a slot to use it.


    My hp never goes below 70% unless im the sole survivor. I consider minor maim, major fracture/breach, crushing and warhorn to be enough. Maybe trials bosses wouldn't be so challenging if you guys made proper tanks and not dps hybrids.


    Problem is people have one set up for dk tanks because the class is bad at resource management and they *** the bed if you suggest anything else. It's sad how Zos adds and tweaks all these sets and people are stuck on outdated bs they got told, can't even think for themselves. The level of panty twisting over what I wear from people I'll never have the misfortune of playing with is ridiculous, you'd think I deconned their gear and forced them to use my set up.
  • Baconfat79
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    So many incorrect things in that post...I don't even know where to start.

    Ebon is trash in small groups and worthless in large groups? Maxing ultimate generation is stupid for a tank? Truals tanks are dps hybids, not proper tanks? DK tanks are bad at resource management?

    Not a single one of those things are true.

    I guess I should expect no less from a vampire tank who uses Bat Swarm over Warhorn and has also stated that Mighty Chudan set is BiS gear. Clearly this guy is an expert.

    Have you tanked vet trials at all, WalksonGraves? No? Not even once? Yet somehow you are an expert on tanking...strange. Go give it a try, using all of your brilliant theories about gear and skills, then come back and let us know how it went.
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