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Other players pinching your mats/runes

  • Rev Rielle
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    Some players are just rude and selfish. They'll complain and argue and give you all manner of excuse to try and justify their actions when you call them out on it, but at the end of day that's what they are. MMOs are turning into selfish little worlds.

    If you can be anything, be kind.
  • Tandor
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    People can make up any manner of excuses for taking other players' nodes or chests. "I was stealing, it's role-play", "I ran up and didn't see you fighting 3 mobs on top of the chest" etc. Fact is, it's just inconsiderate behaviour by players who don't know any better.
    Edited by Tandor on November 16, 2016 9:40PM
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Rev Rielle wrote: »
    Some players are just rude and selfish. They'll complain and argue and give you all manner of excuse to try and justify their actions when you call them out on it, but at the end of day that's what they are. MMOs are turning into selfish little worlds.

    Why would they be the ones complaining? At the end of the day they are the ones with the mats and the people who had the mats "stolen" are the ones creating threads complaining about it.
  • Stopnaggin
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    The OP has a peculiar definition of what is "yours."

    Just because other people's concept of that term differs, does not automatically make them rude, immature, jerks, or insensitive.

    You have a funny definition of rude. It is what it is though. If you don't see a problem with some of the actions taken by other players on this subject, you may be part of the problem.

    Let's try and put this into a different light. And yes I will use an extreme examlpe. Let's say you are on the last round of VMA. Now right before you get to the coveted chest, someone comes in and takes it before you get there. It wouldn't make them rude at all right?

    Your extreme example doesn't work at all. You bust your ass through 9 rounds solo to be rewarded a chest.

    That's the absolute worst example because another player could never be introduced into the arena to "steal" the chest....

    I told you it was extreme example, still has the same friggin premise, you do the work someone else gets the reward. If you can't understand that, then there is no point in trying to make you understand. Is it possible no because it's instanced, does the premise still fit, yes it does.

    Cuz its sooooo much work to clear out 2 monsters for a couple of mats

    Plese google the definition of premise.
  • dead_goon
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    Asardes wrote: »
    It's a multiplayer game. It will happen. No need to get upset about it. Just move on. Farming mats is a waste of time in the long run anyway. They are cheap as dust now and doing writs nets more tempers overall.

    Writs can only be done once a day. I can collect 200 rubedite ore and have a pretty decent chance at getting at least one alloy and more often than not, 2.



    I stood behind a player the other day trying to open a chest. After they got locked out for the third time, I walked up and unlocked it. After that, his/her buddy starting throwing fire at me and followed me around for a good 20-30 minutes lol
  • Mojmir
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    I bet he takes the last cookie too,heathens!!!
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    The OP has a peculiar definition of what is "yours."

    Just because other people's concept of that term differs, does not automatically make them rude, immature, jerks, or insensitive.

    You have a funny definition of rude. It is what it is though. If you don't see a problem with some of the actions taken by other players on this subject, you may be part of the problem.

    Let's try and put this into a different light. And yes I will use an extreme examlpe. Let's say you are on the last round of VMA. Now right before you get to the coveted chest, someone comes in and takes it before you get there. It wouldn't make them rude at all right?

    Your extreme example doesn't work at all. You bust your ass through 9 rounds solo to be rewarded a chest.

    That's the absolute worst example because another player could never be introduced into the arena to "steal" the chest....

    I told you it was extreme example, still has the same friggin premise, you do the work someone else gets the reward. If you can't understand that, then there is no point in trying to make you understand. Is it possible no because it's instanced, does the premise still fit, yes it does.

    Cuz its sooooo much work to clear out 2 monsters for a couple of mats

    Plese google the definition of premise.

    I never said it wasn't the same premise. You are just treating it like it's as extreme as someone stealing your vMA weapons. A few mats that being "stolen" from you isn't a big deal. Just suck it up and move on to the next nodes.
  • Galwylin
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    I've had that happen before. A couple of times in this game. But I shrug it off and do not act the same. Honestly, sometimes people don't realize why you're killing the mobs around them as I've seem people killing a mob around a node only to run off without it. So, just make the assumption they didn't realize you were farming (perhaps they did but..) and carry on. If people are being jerks it shouldn't make you become one also.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    While I do not snatch nodes from people in combat, there is nothing wrong with other doing it. How you interact with others is part of the world. There are idiots like that in real life, so I have to problem with them in game. Makes the world feel more real do have jerks with anti-social behavior.

  • mlstevens42_ESO
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    First the mats are not yours until they are in your bag. Second it will respawn so no reason to get upset about it. Third there are plenty more nodes just waiting for you to go grab them.

    To me it is a competition. No I am not purposefully chasing people about just to make their day miserable nor am I chasing them at all. I will race you to the next node if I see one and I want it need it for some reason.

    However the twerps that claim everything in sight as theirs are quite annoying. I have no idea whether you are just there killing mobs or gathering and if you are not right on top of the node I figure it is fair game. So no I am not going to just leave it just in case you might be going after it.

    Want to also note the best way to avoid having to compete for nodes is to go where there are few people. So right now the best place would not be Wrothgar due to the event.
  • Rev Rielle
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    Rev Rielle wrote: »
    Some players are just rude and selfish. They'll complain and argue and give you all manner of excuse to try and justify their actions when you call them out on it, but at the end of day that's what they are. MMOs are turning into selfish little worlds.

    Why would they be the ones complaining? At the end of the day they are the ones with the mats and the people who had the mats "stolen" are the ones creating threads complaining about it.

    I don't know, but they do seem to. Perhaps they don't like people finding out what they are, or accept the truth about themselves? *shrugs* You'll have to ask them.
    If you can be anything, be kind.
  • Unsent.Soul
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    The OP has a peculiar definition of what is "yours."

    Just because other people's concept of that term differs, does not automatically make them rude, immature, jerks, or insensitive.

    You have a funny definition of rude. It is what it is though. If you don't see a problem with some of the actions taken by other players on this subject, you may be part of the problem.

    Let's try and put this into a different light. And yes I will use an extreme examlpe. Let's say you are on the last round of VMA. Now right before you get to the coveted chest, someone comes in and takes it before you get there. It wouldn't make them rude at all right?

    Your extreme example doesn't work at all. You bust your ass through 9 rounds solo to be rewarded a chest.

    That's the absolute worst example because another player could never be introduced into the arena to "steal" the chest....

    I told you it was extreme example, still has the same friggin premise, you do the work someone else gets the reward. If you can't understand that, then there is no point in trying to make you understand. Is it possible no because it's instanced, does the premise still fit, yes it does.

    Cuz its sooooo much work to clear out 2 monsters for a couple of mats

    My point exactly. Stupid example!

    Compare vma chest to a resource node? Who needs to stop naggin' now?
    Tandor wrote: »
    People can make up any manner of excuses for taking other players' nodes or chests. "I was stealing, it's role-play", "I ran up and didn't see you fighting 3 mobs on top of the chest" etc. Fact is, it's just inconsiderate behaviour by players who don't know any better.

    Bolded the part that most people THINK is true.

    Nothing is yours till its in your pockets..
    Edited by Unsent.Soul on November 16, 2016 10:18PM
  • moonbat
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    Those who are saying that the node is NOT yours until it's in your bags are 100pct correct.

    However, it is a jerk move to grab something out from someone *when they are quite obviously clearing mobs that are standing on top of the node*. They enact the labour and you unfairly profit from it. And you think that you are entitled to the node because the other person is stuck in combat, killing mobs to give you an EASY route to take the node.

    In other words, **they do the work so you can take the node***. That is not ethical behaviour. It is rude and inconsiderate and does not make you a superior person in any way whatsoever.

    Now this is a video game and it doesn't really matter nodes respawn yadda yadda. If i see another person running towards the same node I let them have it, as nodes respawn quickly and it doesn't matter. But, we are talking about the *principle* here. And profiting off the labour of another person is a jerk move, sorry. Don't try to pretend that it isn't. Don't try to pretend that you are all ethical and superior. Just admit, you're a lazy jerk who takes advantage of those in combat to fill your own bags.
    Edited by moonbat on November 16, 2016 10:30PM
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    Caff32 wrote: »
    Let's assume for a moment that when you're farming mats that some nodes are actually "your" nodes not just nodes in the world without ownership. In ESO there is a guild for Thieves. The game has an entire DLC dedicated to stealing. You might say the game encourages it. That being said, when someone "steals" your node, don't get mad. Instead you should laugh and say "You scamp!" then compliment them on their role playing.

    I find this really interesting. I agree: nodes belong to no one. Possession belongs to whoever gets there first.

    That said, I would never say that to a thief who stole something that was mine. See? No? Let's look:

    "Let's assume for a moment that when you're farming mats that some nodes are actually "your" nodes not just nodes in the world without ownership." Lets. Now assume someone roleplaying a thief comes and steals something that belongs to you. Would I just chuckle and say, "You scamp!"

    No, I would not.

    In such a game, assume a justice system is enacted. I would hunt that thief down if like the medieval equivalent of Faye Valentine. I would find him and challenge him to a duel or whatever mechanism the game allowed and if he cowarded out - because he's a thief with little to no courage or backbone (otherwise he'd be saving Tamriel and not stealing from others who are) - then I'd say, screw it, kill him anyway, take the mats he stole from me, plus any other mats he had on him, plus his armor and his weapons and leave him lying on the ground waiting for someone to rez him like the pathetic thief that he is.

    Then I'd come to the forums the next day and there would be a post by him about how the game is unbalanced and he, a thief, was killed because of lag and bad mechanics. He would also make an argument about how - just because there is a Thieves Guild in the game - he should be allowed to steal with impunity. And at that point, @ZOS_GinaBruno would log onto the forum and tell the player that, if that's the game they want to play, then they should go play GTA.

    Sorry. I mean, as long as we're making a bunch of assumptions, right?

    Edited by IrishGirlGamer on November 16, 2016 10:46PM
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  • Stopnaggin
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    The OP has a peculiar definition of what is "yours."

    Just because other people's concept of that term differs, does not automatically make them rude, immature, jerks, or insensitive.

    You have a funny definition of rude. It is what it is though. If you don't see a problem with some of the actions taken by other players on this subject, you may be part of the problem.

    Let's try and put this into a different light. And yes I will use an extreme examlpe. Let's say you are on the last round of VMA. Now right before you get to the coveted chest, someone comes in and takes it before you get there. It wouldn't make them rude at all right?

    Your extreme example doesn't work at all. You bust your ass through 9 rounds solo to be rewarded a chest.

    That's the absolute worst example because another player could never be introduced into the arena to "steal" the chest....

    I told you it was extreme example, still has the same friggin premise, you do the work someone else gets the reward. If you can't understand that, then there is no point in trying to make you understand. Is it possible no because it's instanced, does the premise still fit, yes it does.

    Cuz its sooooo much work to clear out 2 monsters for a couple of mats

    My point exactly. Stupid example!

    Compare vma chest to a resource node? Who needs to stop naggin' now?
    Tandor wrote: »
    People can make up any manner of excuses for taking other players' nodes or chests. "I was stealing, it's role-play", "I ran up and didn't see you fighting 3 mobs on top of the chest" etc. Fact is, it's just inconsiderate behaviour by players who don't know any better.

    Bolded the part that most people THINK is true.

    Nothing is yours till its in your pockets..

    Holy friggin crap. It's sad that people can not comprehend the premise of something. I even stated extreme example. Regardless of the example the premise remains the same, someone else does the work you get the reward.

    The majority of people who think this is acceptable behavior would probably never do anything like this in real life. No consequences for ones actions in a video game to worry about. But put them in front of a living person where there would be consequences and I bet 90% would rethink behavior like this.

    So I'm gonna say it again it's the premise that matters not the example. If you fail to understand, nothing more I can say. Feel free to be inconsiderate as you want. If that's what gives your low self esteemed butt feeling powerful knock yourself out. One day people like this will have to hit the real world and to me that's a scary prospect for the future.
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    moonbat wrote: »
    Those who are saying that the node is NOT yours until it's in your bags are 100pct correct.

    However, it is a jerk move to grab something out from someone *when they are quite obviously clearing mobs that are standing on top of the node*. They enact the labour and you unfairly profit from it. And you think that you are entitled to the node because the other person is stuck in combat, killing mobs to give you an EASY route to take the node.

    In other words, **they do the work so you can take the node***. That is not ethical behaviour. It is rude and inconsiderate and does not make you a superior person in any way whatsoever.

    Now this is a video game and it doesn't really matter nodes respawn yadda yadda. If i see another person running towards the same node I let them have it, as nodes respawn quickly and it doesn't matter. But, we are talking about the *principle* here. And profiting off the labour of another person is a jerk move, sorry. Don't try to pretend that it isn't. Don't try to pretend that you are all ethical and superior. Just admit, you're a lazy jerk who takes advantage of those in combat to fill your own bags.

    I'm a lazy jerk and I'm proud!
  • Rouven
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    I'm a lazy jerk and I'm proud!

    That could be a T-shirt.
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  • moonbat
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    The OP has a peculiar definition of what is "yours."

    Just because other people's concept of that term differs, does not automatically make them rude, immature, jerks, or insensitive.

    You have a funny definition of rude. It is what it is though. If you don't see a problem with some of the actions taken by other players on this subject, you may be part of the problem.

    Let's try and put this into a different light. And yes I will use an extreme examlpe. Let's say you are on the last round of VMA. Now right before you get to the coveted chest, someone comes in and takes it before you get there. It wouldn't make them rude at all right?

    Your extreme example doesn't work at all. You bust your ass through 9 rounds solo to be rewarded a chest.

    That's the absolute worst example because another player could never be introduced into the arena to "steal" the chest....

    I told you it was extreme example, still has the same friggin premise, you do the work someone else gets the reward. If you can't understand that, then there is no point in trying to make you understand. Is it possible no because it's instanced, does the premise still fit, yes it does.

    Cuz its sooooo much work to clear out 2 monsters for a couple of mats

    My point exactly. Stupid example!

    Compare vma chest to a resource node? Who needs to stop naggin' now?
    Tandor wrote: »
    People can make up any manner of excuses for taking other players' nodes or chests. "I was stealing, it's role-play", "I ran up and didn't see you fighting 3 mobs on top of the chest" etc. Fact is, it's just inconsiderate behaviour by players who don't know any better.

    Bolded the part that most people THINK is true.

    Nothing is yours till its in your pockets..

    Holy friggin crap. It's sad that people can not comprehend the premise of something. I even stated extreme example. Regardless of the example the premise remains the same, someone else does the work you get the reward.

    The majority of people who think this is acceptable behavior would probably never do anything like this in real life. No consequences for ones actions in a video game to worry about. But put them in front of a living person where there would be consequences and I bet 90% would rethink behavior like this.

    So I'm gonna say it again it's the premise that matters not the example. If you fail to understand, nothing more I can say. Feel free to be inconsiderate as you want. If that's what gives your low self esteemed butt feeling powerful knock yourself out. One day people like this will have to hit the real world and to me that's a scary prospect for the future.

    Yeah, they are not bright enough to perceive the specific *concept* that you were getting at, which is that they expect another to enact the labour so that they can profit. It's no different from ninja looting the corpse of a boss mob after an entire raid has killed it, since the loot technically does not belong to the raid members *until it's in their pockets*. I played Everquest1 and this happened some of the time - we would get a 40 man raid together and kill a boss, at which point some idiot would come along and ninja loot the contents - his logic being, the loot belonged to him because it was not yet in our bags, never mind that he did not put any effort into actually killing the boss. The loot was his cuz he saw it!
  • AshTal
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    I suspect most people don't follow other players round steeling mats or chests but if you see another player who appears to be out grinding monsters I suspect that most people will go and get the mat.

    Personally I try not to steal mats but if there is one in the open and we are both running to it I think its fair game. However the insulting tells some players send is just horrible, as if 1 mat or 1 chest has ruined their entire life and they must vent their hatred and bile from their parents basement at everyone else.
  • Unsent.Soul
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    The OP has a peculiar definition of what is "yours."

    Just because other people's concept of that term differs, does not automatically make them rude, immature, jerks, or insensitive.

    You have a funny definition of rude. It is what it is though. If you don't see a problem with some of the actions taken by other players on this subject, you may be part of the problem.

    Let's try and put this into a different light. And yes I will use an extreme examlpe. Let's say you are on the last round of VMA. Now right before you get to the coveted chest, someone comes in and takes it before you get there. It wouldn't make them rude at all right?

    Your extreme example doesn't work at all. You bust your ass through 9 rounds solo to be rewarded a chest.

    That's the absolute worst example because another player could never be introduced into the arena to "steal" the chest....

    I told you it was extreme example, still has the same friggin premise, you do the work someone else gets the reward. If you can't understand that, then there is no point in trying to make you understand. Is it possible no because it's instanced, does the premise still fit, yes it does.

    Cuz its sooooo much work to clear out 2 monsters for a couple of mats

    My point exactly. Stupid example!

    Compare vma chest to a resource node? Who needs to stop naggin' now?
    Tandor wrote: »
    People can make up any manner of excuses for taking other players' nodes or chests. "I was stealing, it's role-play", "I ran up and didn't see you fighting 3 mobs on top of the chest" etc. Fact is, it's just inconsiderate behaviour by players who don't know any better.

    Bolded the part that most people THINK is true.

    Nothing is yours till its in your pockets..

    Holy friggin crap. It's sad that people can not comprehend the premise of something. I even stated extreme example. Regardless of the example the premise remains the same, someone else does the work you get the reward.

    The majority of people who think this is acceptable behavior would probably never do anything like this in real life. No consequences for ones actions in a video game to worry about. But put them in front of a living person where there would be consequences and I bet 90% would rethink behavior like this.

    So I'm gonna say it again it's the premise that matters not the example. If you fail to understand, nothing more I can say. Feel free to be inconsiderate as you want. If that's what gives your low self esteemed butt feeling powerful knock yourself out. One day people like this will have to hit the real world and to me that's a scary prospect for the future.

    This is a video game... that's all it is. Have I personally stated that I partake in this evil, rude, inconsiderate, stupid, ruthless, cowardly act?

    No.

    It's happened to me numerous times, never have I felt the need to run to the forums to get a bandwagon of posters to unite and burn the ground we all stand on.

    My main point, it's not yours till its in your pocket.

    I understand the premise of your point made earlier, it was just a sad example.

    Edit: maybe I just don't think it's a big deal because this exact same thing happened all the time in diablo 2/LoD. Nothing was yours till you picked it up, loot was dropped and whoever picked it up first, got it.
    Edited by Unsent.Soul on November 16, 2016 11:14PM
  • Stopnaggin
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    I didn't start this post so I didn't run to the forums to post squat. The example in question is not the point, but it somehow ends up being the focus of the statement.

    Do what you like it's not killing me. My point was that's it's a cheap move, and I don't care how you try and defend it. Your opnion is different, I'm ok with that.

    Whether or not its happened to you before os irrelevant, as it's what you do now that defines your character. You take that how you like and play how you want as it's no skin off my back. I just have a different opnion.
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Since some people like to use outrageous analogies I guess I will use one as well. If you see a case containing a million dollars sitting out in the open and someone is clearly going to grab it but someone got in their way and started talking to them would you let them finish the conversation and get the million dollars or would you go up and grab the money while they were distracted?
  • Stopnaggin
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    I would first off try to find the owner of said money as it was not mine but that's just me. Hand it to the police and then if no one claims its, then yep it's mine.
    Edited by Stopnaggin on November 16, 2016 11:27PM
  • Abeille
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    Since some people like to use outrageous analogies I guess I will use one as well. If you see a case containing a million dollars sitting out in the open and someone is clearly going to grab it but someone got in their way and started talking to them would you let them finish the conversation and get the million dollars or would you go up and grab the money while they were distracted?

    I would call the police because keeping stuff you find that doesn't belong to you is a crime in my country.
    Too much for "finders keepers" I guess :P
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    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
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    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
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  • dem0n1k
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    Try farming flowers in Hollow City... it's a race to every node... no quarter is given or expected!

    The thing is... where other players positions look on your screen is NOT the same as where they appear on other player's screens. Try having a race with another player that is on teamspeak... they will say they are in front but on your screen, they are clearly behind you. It's just server latency.

    I have farmed a lot with buddies on teamspeak & we race each other for the nodes. It is VERY common to arrive at the node & mash the E key but your character just stands there ... then a buddy turns up & grabs the node! It LOOKS like he has just stolen it from under your nose... but on his screen he was there first.
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  • Unsent.Soul
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    I didn't start this post so I didn't run to the forums to post squat. The example in question is not the point, but it somehow ends up being the focus of the statement.

    Do what you like it's not killing me. My point was that's it's a cheap move, and I don't care how you try and defend it. Your opnion is different, I'm ok with that.

    Whether or not its happened to you before os irrelevant, as it's what you do now that defines your character. You take that how you like and play how you want as it's no skin off my back. I just have a different opnion.

    You didn't start it but you sure as hell jumped on the bandwagon to assume people are doing this to spite others.

    First world problems.... damn, what will be the next hot topic of discussion?
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    dem0n1k wrote: »
    Try farming flowers in Hollow City... it's a race to every node... no quarter is given or expected!

    The thing is... where other players positions look on your screen is NOT the same as where they appear on other player's screens. Try having a race with another player that is on teamspeak... they will say they are in front but on your screen, they are clearly behind you. It's just server latency.

    I have farmed a lot with buddies on teamspeak & we race each other for the nodes. It is VERY common to arrive at the node & mash the E key but your character just stands there ... then a buddy turns up & grabs the node! It LOOKS like he has just stolen it from under your nose... but on his screen he was there first.

    Ah but here we have a little friendly competition, not what is happening here. I personally won't bother if I see someone headed toward one. To me its not worth the effort with so many others out there. I do understand it happens from time to time, it's all good. But I have also had scabs follow me just to try and snipe nodes. There is some satisfaction they get from someone's misery I guess.
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    I didn't start this post so I didn't run to the forums to post squat. The example in question is not the point, but it somehow ends up being the focus of the statement.

    Do what you like it's not killing me. My point was that's it's a cheap move, and I don't care how you try and defend it. Your opnion is different, I'm ok with that.

    Whether or not its happened to you before os irrelevant, as it's what you do now that defines your character. You take that how you like and play how you want as it's no skin off my back. I just have a different opnion.

    You didn't start it but you sure as hell jumped on the bandwagon to assume people are doing this to spite others.

    First world problems.... damn, what will be the next hot topic of discussion?

    Probably Trump or how Obam a ruined ESO.

    I'm not alone on the bandwagon, you're right beside me bud.
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    This thread has really inspired me to go out and spend my night "stealing" peoples mats just to watch the chaos that ensues.
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    The OP has a peculiar definition of what is "yours."

    Just because other people's concept of that term differs, does not automatically make them rude, immature, jerks, or insensitive.

    You have a funny definition of rude. It is what it is though. If you don't see a problem with some of the actions taken by other players on this subject, you may be part of the problem.

    Let's try and put this into a different light. And yes I will use an extreme examlpe. Let's say you are on the last round of VMA. Now right before you get to the coveted chest, someone comes in and takes it before you get there. It wouldn't make them rude at all right?

    Your extreme example doesn't work at all. You bust your ass through 9 rounds solo to be rewarded a chest.

    That's the absolute worst example because another player could never be introduced into the arena to "steal" the chest....

    I told you it was extreme example, still has the same friggin premise, you do the work someone else gets the reward. If you can't understand that, then there is no point in trying to make you understand. Is it possible no because it's instanced, does the premise still fit, yes it does.

    Cuz its sooooo much work to clear out 2 monsters for a couple of mats

    Yet another one with a reading comprehension problem.
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