Shogunami wrote: »

So I heard somewhere that they made some changes to legerdemain and after some googling the only thing I could find was this - "Legerdemain now influences the quality of loot obtained from Justice activities.".
I've tried searching around the forums and google for an explanation of this but all I seem to find are threads asking the same with not a single answer in any of them. Does anyone even know if this change made it to live, and if so what does it mean - if anything?

I've heard that it's even harder to find stuff worthwhile when stealing now than it was before but I've yet to do any stealing myself so I don't really know if this is true.

Would appreciate any insight on this.

from the patch notes 2.6.4 (12 / One Tamriel):
it is live

"Justice System
Legerdemain now influences the quality of loot obtained from Justice activities.
* Higher skill ranks in Legerdemain provide a better chance to "find" higher quality items.
* This replaces the previous approach of higher level zones having a higher chance to obtain higher quality items.
* Similarly, the overall value of items from Thieves Troves is now based on your rank in the Thieves Guild skill line, with a higher rank providing an increased chance for more and higher quality items."

How it works is, I get a lot more of the potions, up to 15 of them. I also get more Purple set items from the Troves, and never less than a Blue. I do get some more gold I think, but I never paid attention to how much gold I was getting before.

As for the Legerdemain Loot, they increased the spawn rate of the drop boxes, but reduced the frequency of Blue/Purple items you get from those boxes. That was the only thing they affected. So, over all, it is the same, if you go over an area a few times to hit the drop boxes as they spawn. All other Legerdemain loot is the same, sometimes you get a lot of Greens/Blues, sometimes you just get a lot of Whites. It's all RNG for stealing from containers. Purples, yes, they show up, rarely.

hrothbern wrote: »

"Justice System
Legerdemain now influences the quality of loot obtained from Justice activities.
* Higher skill ranks in Legerdemain provide a better chance to "find" higher quality items.
* This replaces the previous approach of higher level zones having a higher chance to obtain higher quality items.
* Similarly, the overall value of items from Thieves Troves is now based on your rank in the Thieves Guild skill line, with a higher rank providing an increased chance for more and higher quality items."

This was very useful, thanks!

Nestor wrote: »

How it works is, I get a lot more of the potions, up to 15 of them. I also get more Purple set items from the chests, and never less than a Blue. I do get some more gold I think, but I never paid attention to how much gold I was getting before.

As for the Legerdemain Loot, they increased the spawn rate of the drop boxes, but reduced the frequency of Blue/Purple items you get from those boxes. That was the only thing they affected. So, over all, it is the same, if you go over an area a few times to hit the drop boxes as they spawn. All other Legerdemain loot is the same, sometimes you get a lot of Greens/Blues, sometimes you just get a lot of Whites. It's all RNG for stealing from containers. Purples, yes, they show up, rarely.

And so was this. I will have to go on my sneaky and see.


Thanks guys!

Nestor wrote: »

How it works is, I get a lot more of the potions, up to 15 of them. I also get more Purple set items from the Troves, and never less than a Blue. I do get some more gold I think, but I never paid attention to how much gold I was getting before.

Just to Clarify, these are the Thieves Troves I am talking about here. Treasure Chests you unlock or use a map to find are covered by the Champ Passive. I edited my earlier post to say Troves to be clear