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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Oh lord, farming VMA....

  • Cherryblossom
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    I don't know about you but what gets me killed in vMA is the fact that my ping is constantly 300+ so I'm in the red region according to ESO's ping tracker. Sometimes I wish I was back in the UK just so I can complete vMA.

    Yeah, slight delays after pressing weapon/class abilities can & will get you killed. Even when you have 'successfully' roll dodged out of the one-shot-kill red dials on the ground, it's not confirmed whether you're safe from it even if you did everything right (I did) but alas, I was killed anyways.

    Seems to me that high ping is the actual boss here in ESO as I try to always predict what would happen a few or more hundred milliseconds ahead lol.

    In the UK and I still get the 300 ping deaths, where your left swearing at the game for being such a buggy piece of crap.

    VMA with its, lag, stupid mechanics and terrible RNG is another reason to hate the game and go do something else for a while.

    VMA where the developers showed how much they hate the player base, we will add one shot mechanics, which you may get hit by them no matter what you do.....
  • CultOfMMO
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    I still believe the BiS should come from an insanely challenging solo content, and function like a skill/gear gate before attempting vet trial hardmodes. Like seriously give me one well documented example of a flawless conqueror, or even just stormproof, act like an idiot. But ZOS needs to make the content worthwhile to do.

    the problem with vMA is that your efforts are not rewarded in the slightest. If you did 100 runs and still didnt get anything, you really might as well have only done 1 run, the RNG doesnt get better the more you do it.

    to me it wouldnt make sense if the absolute best stuff drops from vMoL hardmode, what the hell do you do with it? steamroll the rest of the game?

    it makes sense to have the best possible setup before attempting the hardest content.
    vHoF HM 202k Tick-Tock Tormentor (Stamblade)
    vAS HM 111k Immortal Redeemer (Magplar)
    vCR HM 129k Gryphon Heart (Magblade/plar)
    vSS HM 245k NA 2nd Godslayer (Stamcro)
    Magblade vMA 601k
  • CultOfMMO
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    I don't know about you but what gets me killed in vMA is the fact that my ping is constantly 300+ so I'm in the red region according to ESO's ping tracker. Sometimes I wish I was back in the UK just so I can complete vMA.

    Yeah, slight delays after pressing weapon/class abilities can & will get you killed. Even when you have 'successfully' roll dodged out of the one-shot-kill red dials on the ground, it's not confirmed whether you're safe from it even if you did everything right (I did) but alas, I was killed anyways.

    Seems to me that high ping is the actual boss here in ESO as I try to always predict what would happen a few or more hundred milliseconds ahead lol.

    In the UK and I still get the 300 ping deaths, where your left swearing at the game for being such a buggy piece of crap.

    VMA with its, lag, stupid mechanics and terrible RNG is another reason to hate the game and go do something else for a while.

    VMA where the developers showed how much they hate the player base, we will add one shot mechanics, which you may get hit by them no matter what you do.....

    1) ping sucks, i do feel bad for you
    2) define what makes a mechanic stupid? they're unique and challenging to cope with, but they cease to exist after 10 runs, the learning curve is just steep thats all.
    3) yep RNG sucks, that really needs to be fixed
    4) there is only 1 single mechanic in the entire arena that has 0 counterplay, and thats shroom beneath shield in stage 7. if you're getting 1 shot else where you're not doing it right
    vHoF HM 202k Tick-Tock Tormentor (Stamblade)
    vAS HM 111k Immortal Redeemer (Magplar)
    vCR HM 129k Gryphon Heart (Magblade/plar)
    vSS HM 245k NA 2nd Godslayer (Stamcro)
    Magblade vMA 601k
  • Masel
    Masel
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    Connection issues are all that keeps me from the flawless conqueror. I always die once, and that is because of a connection based lag in one of the arenas.

    I don't mind the rng of vma, (I like to run it on four of my chars) if (and only if) they would add undaunted plunder to the arena so you could make 10k or so per run. I like the challenge, and the problem is that there is only one trait that is viable overall, except for precise in situations where you have a raid that is completely experienced and has a fixed role distribution, which is only available to very few players. After 50 runs (12 in the last days since the event) I have only two weapons that I actually use: a sharpened lightning staff and bow. If they made the other traits(especially nirnhoned and precise) usable, it would be a lot more fun to build something around them and the arena would be a lot more worthwhile to do.
    Right now it's just frustrating and time-consuming.
    PC EU

    All Trial Trifecta Titles Done!

    Youtube:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChVEG6ckuAgGs5OyA6VeisA
  • RebornV3x
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    I hate VMA almost every death is some bs rng death and the final boss is just to much work for what it's worth why bis weapons drop from a solo dungeon In an MMO is dumb as hell
    Edited by RebornV3x on November 10, 2016 9:01PM
    Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • Shader_Shibes
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Tonnopesce wrote: »
    Step 1: Be stam sorc with VO

    Step 2: Wear blindfold and mash buttons.

    Cheers!

    Step 3: put it in 1st person too

    https://youtu.be/z7xlKxImts8
    (Was levelling WH up before i went in and forgot to change it before anyone asks lol)

    Like the challenge Yes?

    Has anyone ever beated vMA in first person?

    Anyway i've tryed with all my toons stam dk, stam nb, stam sorc and hybrid templar but Since i've rolled a new mag Templar it feels like easymode.

    I believe @Fengrush done it in first person a few weeks ago now, was entertaining.

    Confirmed, it was painful. It will switch you out of first person to over the shoulder view when zoning through portals though. And you cant go back to 1st person until you go through another portal. Immersion was totally broken.

    Yeah i remember that, watched you live (subber :p) Might have been painful for you but was really entertaining and you made it look not all that bad xD
  • Integral1900
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    As a player that has pretty much walked away from vet content, I can do all the stories on normal so I just can't be bothered. I'm a solo player for the most part and slogged my way through normal in a couple of hours, got some garbage loot and a pittance of gold and xp and never went back.

    ZOS please just give us a difficulty slider, that the good players can make it all but impossible and people like me who play purely to tell stories and to escape from the frustrations of a thorough unpleasant reality can have our easy mode. They showed they can set the game to you, why can't we have this?
  • mr_wazzabi
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Try running it on stam DK. Your wallet is gonna be hurting when you have to buy a new monitor and keyboard.
    Having cleared vMA on almost every class/resource combination (just missing stamplar; he's only level 22), my personal experience is that stam DK is the easiest stam and easiest melee, with only magblade and magsorc being easier.

    The downside of the stam DK is that you don't have any innate heals like Surge or Sweeps, but if you take the healing DW morphs (Bloodthirst and Blood Craze) and couple that with Vigor, you'll have more than enough heals. The main benefit of the stam DK is the reflect. It completely changes several parts of the arena, and many difficult areas (particularly in stage 5) become trivially easy when you can flap those wings and let the ranged enemies commit suicide while you focus down the melee.

    You find stam dk easier than stam sorc? How?
    Bosmer Stamina NB
    Altmer Magicka TEMP
    Dunmer DK both stam/mag (depends what I feel like)
    Altmer Magicka NB
    Breton Magicka Sorc
    Redguard Stam Sorc
    Max CP
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