2h lackluster in PvE

Anti_Virus · November 2016

Not only is 2h lackluster, but bow is also terrible in PVE,

Yes it makes a great back bar weapon but not a primary just like 2H.

I really hope one day ZOS can make ALL weapon skill lines viable for dps.

Doctordarkspawn · November 2016

Two handed needs reworked. I'd love to see a build for it that can hit over 20 K DPS and I'd love for someone to post it here. Any class, any race, whatever. I just want a twohander build.

That's not absolutely horrible.

KingYogi415 · November 2016

2 hand = PVP

Doomslinger781 · November 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin It's a very clear verdict tbh, you need only to equip it once to see for yourself how 2H is exceedingly poor in all aspects of pve, aside from leveling. VMA weapons only further the disparity, but it's not the cause. 2H is simply designed for pvp, and depending on the context, it can be incredibly lackluster there too.

CultOfMMO wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

@Alcast @Deltia you guys know a thing or two about PvE right? Please feel free to chime in, and tell us how competitive the 2H is in PvE.

I'd be so pissed to be called upon in such a trivial topic with an already well established answer that anyone can easily test for themselves.

it is NOT viable, period

And yet, there are plenty of people that are debating otherwise, and in many cases outright against any buffs for the 2H whatsoever. The 2H is only good for its major brutality, and quite frankly ZOS needs to make it so you're not so incredibly handicapped by having to use it over DW.

Perhaps by ADDING A FREAKING 2-PIECE SET BONUS to bring it in line with the 5/5/2 meta.

Strider_Roshin · November 2016

Doomslinger781 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin It's a very clear verdict tbh, you need only to equip it once to see for yourself how 2H is exceedingly poor in all aspects of pve, aside from leveling. VMA weapons only further the disparity, but it's not the cause. 2H is simply designed for pvp, and depending on the context, it can be incredibly lackluster there too.

CultOfMMO wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

@Alcast @Deltia you guys know a thing or two about PvE right? Please feel free to chime in, and tell us how competitive the 2H is in PvE.

I'd be so pissed to be called upon in such a trivial topic with an already well established answer that anyone can easily test for themselves.

it is NOT viable, period

And yet, there are plenty of people that are debating otherwise, and in many cases outright against any buffs for the 2H whatsoever. The 2H is only good for its major brutality, and quite frankly ZOS needs to make it so you're not so incredibly handicapped by having to use it over DW.

Perhaps by ADDING A FREAKING 2-PIECE SET BONUS to bring it in line with the 5/5/2 meta.

Honestly, even if they did make this happen; DW will still be more powerful due to simply having more weapon damage, and the fact that Flurry way outperforms Uppercut due to double dipping from the champion tree.

DRXHarbinger · November 2016

2h in vma is actually epic. For example I've blown up on round 9 and got the boss and crem guard next to each other, reverse slice spam for over 100k dps. 55k on the boss and 60k on the crem guard as the splash damage can crit for more than the initial hit.

Any other round you just crit rush and sup attack and any regular add is gone instantly. Granted the initial 90% health to 40% is slower but at execute you can chuck out some *** damage. I have a video someone hitting the serpent and mantikora for 60k each over and over and over at the same time. Think it that situation it outdoes anything in the game.

Underrated imo. Plus rally is love. I did vma on a stam dk just using rally as couldn't be bothered to go pvp again for vigor.

KingYogi415 · November 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

2h in vma is actually epic. For example I've blown up on round 9 and got the boss and crem guard next to each other, reverse slice spam for over 100k dps. 55k on the boss and 60k on the crem guard as the splash damage can crit for more than the initial hit.

Any other round you just crit rush and sup attack and any regular add is gone instantly. Granted the initial 90% health to 40% is slower but at execute you can chuck out some *** damage. I have a video someone hitting the serpent and mantikora for 60k each over and over and over at the same time. Think it that situation it outdoes anything in the game.

Underrated imo. Plus rally is love. I did vma on a stam dk just using rally as couldn't be bothered to go pvp again for vigor.

With Duel wield you burn the boss to 70% before the deadra spawns.

STEVIL · November 2016

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Not only is 2h lackluster, but bow is also terrible in PVE,

Yes it makes a great back bar weapon but not a primary just like 2H.

I really hope one day ZOS can make ALL weapon skill lines viable for dps.

I would prefer thry didnt.

Really if they are all "viable" (read equally useful) for dps there would be lityle to no difference in weaponbselection othrr than cosmetic.

Or some would be OP based on the othrr stuff.

If S&S were dps match for dw and 2h... why notvtake it and gsin the defensive boosts?

If bow were a dps match for 2h and dw why take the option that limits you to short range or the dw which limits you to short range AND requires two weapons to farm/craft and upgrade?

Bow right now gives you powerful dot, cc, range, aoe and a potent ambush from stealth snipe option at half the cost of dw. even has a heal now iirc. If its dps matched dw... why farm vmsa for two lucky dagger drops?

I would rather see a lot MORE diversity in the weapons, including dps combined with more diverse challenges so that being slighly under top dps wasnt seen as "unviable"!!!

TheDarkRuler · November 2016

I use Two-Handed for Cleave (Ultimate Generation), Rally (Brutality+Minor Heal) and for Executioner once an enemy drops below 35% for massive amount of damage. All other time I am using Dual Wield.

STEVIL · November 2016

TheDarkRuler wrote: »

I use Two-Handed for Cleave (Ultimate Generation), Rally (Brutality+Minor Heal) and for Executioner once an enemy drops below 35% for massive amount of damage. All other time I am using Dual Wield.

Crit rush gets lotsa use here,
Carve?
Rally
Rev slice

Actualky not using wrrck/dizzy as much.

Xvorg · November 2016

STEVIL wrote: »

TheDarkRuler wrote: »

I use Two-Handed for Cleave (Ultimate Generation), Rally (Brutality+Minor Heal) and for Executioner once an enemy drops below 35% for massive amount of damage. All other time I am using Dual Wield.

Crit rush gets lotsa use here,
Carve?
Rally
Rev slice

Actualky not using wrrck/dizzy as much.

basic attacks with 2H are pretty decent

STEVIL · November 2016

Xvorg wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

TheDarkRuler wrote: »

I use Two-Handed for Cleave (Ultimate Generation), Rally (Brutality+Minor Heal) and for Executioner once an enemy drops below 35% for massive amount of damage. All other time I am using Dual Wield.

Crit rush gets lotsa use here,
Carve?
Rally
Rev slice

Actualky not using wrrck/dizzy as much.

basic attacks with 2H are pretty decent

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