Is there a healer support strike I don't know of ?

KingYogi415 · November 2016

Rev Rielle wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Every good healer runs SPC, combat prayer, warhorn and eledrain. If you don't see these buffs you might in a PUG.

This is not true.
Anytime anyone uses an absolute statement for anything you can be certain right then and there it's not true.
I'm not saying these aren't great skills/equipment to use.

I feel you. My khajiit stam sorc has them vigor heals. I'll use that to heal vet trials. Just because SPC is hands down the best healer set in the game why should we care what's effective? I mostly play to pick flowers anyways.

I did leave a spot for the flex set. IA is what I run but gossmer, lich and worm can all be fun.

EvilCroc · November 2016

Support skills from healer in PUGs is priviledge, not routine. Nobody have right to demand priviledges. Deal with what you have.

Rev Rielle · November 2016

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Rev Rielle wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Every good healer runs SPC, combat prayer, warhorn and eledrain. If you don't see these buffs you might in a PUG.

This is not true.
Anytime anyone uses an absolute statement for anything you can be certain right then and there it's not true.
I'm not saying these aren't great skills/equipment to use.

I feel you. My khajiit stam sorc has them vigor heals. I'll use that to heal vet trials. Just because SPC is hands down the best set healer set in the game why should we care what's effective? I mostly play to pick flowers anyways.

I did leave a spot for the flex set. IA is what I run but gossmer, lich and worm can all be fun.

Sure sounds like you know what you're talking about.
And that you understood what was written as well.
Oh, you were being funny? Must be a higher level of humour I'm not aware of.

Eshja · November 2016

I'm a healer and I use supporting skills only when I'm asked to. I often play with people who don't use synergy of bubbles, and on my templar they don't use my shards. It all costs my resources, so I don't use these skills if it only lies on the ground or fly away (I'm like "Bye, my wasted magicka... you would be good heal now... Sorry...").
But if you ask me, if people like it... They don't, recently I was kicked from random party because I didn't have meta skills. I only had time to get one of these on my bar and got kicked. But I don't regret. This party was almost dying at mobs, had 15k group dps and they was complaining about lack of resources. And they wanted me to fix all of these.

I know healer is a support, but why should we do everything? Dps these times are not survivable at all. They have 16-18k hp, so they're dying if you leave them for 2 seconds. And they don't have resources. If they're good, they do a lot of dmg. And I'm okay with supporting these ones. But often they are not good, especially if they're randoms. And then we get not survivable group of guys who don't have dmg and resources. Auri-El, save us. Oh, and mostly they have elitist character. I go back to do pledges with my guildies.

And they complain that they can't find a party as a dd in finder. That's why.

DoccEff · November 2016

reesenorman wrote: »

DoccEff wrote: »

When I heal I don't always use these skills, simply so I can do more damage and not just stand there and just spam heals. If things die faster, you need less ressource managment. And if you do need one of those skills just ask for it, I would never decline using them then.

Let me stop my job mid fight to ask you to do your job. Thanks

When a fight lasts one minute you most likely don't need any ressource support at all. For longer fights, usually for the last boss in a dungeon, I slot more support skills. I'm always thinking about what would be the best for the group as a whole. And usually that's more dps, instead of some mystic orbs that aren't used anyway because some people don't seem to want to stop their rotation to use synergies...

DocFrost72 · November 2016

Asardes wrote: »

Kidly wrote: »

Or option 4, if you run a heavy armor tanky healer build, you can do some off tanking with Inner Fire/morphs and heal through the damage. It's what I do anyway.

If I see the healer in heavy armor in a dungeon, I'll slot Vigor. Heavy armor is bad, really had for both sustain and actually doing damage and healing - just check the passives of light vs. heavy. And if he wears heavy he is probably so bad he can't keep himself alive to begin with. Most likely he's a PvP zerger who decided to run dungeons just to level his undaunted and/or farm some sets.

Healing in heavy is harder, but actually does have some perks to it. Like heavy attacks from your resto giving you back absolutely ludicrous amounts of magicka. Not to mention, it makes you durable.

Maybe no heavy trial healers, though xD

SolarCat02 · November 2016

ombyoureaninja wrote: »

It has been my experience, that 9:10 DPS are so tunnel-visioned that they can't be bothered to appreciate when I do run shards, orbs, or elemental drain. When I'm asked for a specific skill, I absolutely add it to my rotation. With this said, I've also seen some really poor resourced managed sorcs that complain about elemental drain not being used, and it is.

I had a small (fortunately friendly) argument with someone last night in Sanctum Ophidia.
"Wait! There's no healer on the left, you both went right!"
"I went left."
"No, you went right!"
"I promise, I am over here on your side."
"I don't see any heals. Where is Healing Springs? The floor is nothing but poison and fire, no heals. You are not over here! You went... [mob dies] Oh. Hi."

Healing Springs, Rapid Regeneration, Healing Ward, Elemental Drain, Siphon Spirit, Spell Power Cure.

To be fair, his usual cue to find me was my light Trinimac shoulder wings painted Transliminal Violet, so this isn't the first time he has overlooked me since ZOS stole them away.

SpearDusk · November 2016

As a healer with PUGs? I usually am the Healer, the DD, and the Tank lol

HegemonIQ · November 2016

DocFrost72 wrote: »

HegemonIQ wrote: »

Hamiltonmath wrote: »

I pug as a healer, and use ele drain, aether, worm cult, spell power, shards, repentance, warhorn, purifying light....I have orbs but I don't use them much unless someone asks. I also don't use spirit syphon much unless asked. I just got talked into using Power of the Light too. We'll see.

Hmmm...aether, worm cult and spell power...interesting. Last I checked, it's not possible to get full procs on three 5 piece sets. Please explain how you achieving this glorious feat.

Likely 3 aether (neck, ring ring), 3 body worm and 4 body SPC, SPC staff and 2 worm one handed. Just a guess, though.

As I said, only possible to wear and get the full procs from two sets...

HegemonIQ · November 2016

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Every good healer runs SPC, combat prayer, warhorn and eledrain. If you don't see these buffs you might in a PUG.

Your opinion...as a dedicated healer that doesn't run a destro staff, I beg to differ.

idk · November 2016

SolarCat02 wrote: »

ombyoureaninja wrote: »

It has been my experience, that 9:10 DPS are so tunnel-visioned that they can't be bothered to appreciate when I do run shards, orbs, or elemental drain. When I'm asked for a specific skill, I absolutely add it to my rotation. With this said, I've also seen some really poor resourced managed sorcs that complain about elemental drain not being used, and it is.

I had a small (fortunately friendly) argument with someone last night in Sanctum Ophidia.
"Wait! There's no healer on the left, you both went right!"
"I went left."
"No, you went right!"
"I promise, I am over here on your side."
"I don't see any heals. Where is Healing Springs? The floor is nothing but poison and fire, no heals. You are not over here! You went... [mob dies] Oh. Hi."

Healing Springs, Rapid Regeneration, Healing Ward, Elemental Drain, Siphon Spirit, Spell Power Cure.

To be fair, his usual cue to find me was my light Trinimac shoulder wings painted Transliminal Violet, so this isn't the first time he has overlooked me since ZOS stole them away.

Sounds like a raid leader issue.

Nocturnalan · November 2016

Did you just assume my role!?

SolarCat02 · November 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

SolarCat02 wrote: »

ombyoureaninja wrote: »

It has been my experience, that 9:10 DPS are so tunnel-visioned that they can't be bothered to appreciate when I do run shards, orbs, or elemental drain. When I'm asked for a specific skill, I absolutely add it to my rotation. With this said, I've also seen some really poor resourced managed sorcs that complain about elemental drain not being used, and it is.

I had a small (fortunately friendly) argument with someone last night in Sanctum Ophidia.
"Wait! There's no healer on the left, you both went right!"
"I went left."
"No, you went right!"
"I promise, I am over here on your side."
"I don't see any heals. Where is Healing Springs? The floor is nothing but poison and fire, no heals. You are not over here! You went... [mob dies] Oh. Hi."

Healing Springs, Rapid Regeneration, Healing Ward, Elemental Drain, Siphon Spirit, Spell Power Cure.

To be fair, his usual cue to find me was my light Trinimac shoulder wings painted Transliminal Violet, so this isn't the first time he has overlooked me since ZOS stole them away.

Sounds like a raid leader issue.

I WAS the raid leader, and the healer in question.

My Crown was over on his side, too, thanks for reminding me of that.

lordhakai · November 2016

SickDuck wrote: »

I'm mostly bothered about spears and repentance. Both skills are absolutely amazing regardless of the group. Yet most healers don't use either even when running with full stamina party.

I mean spears is kinda used, but repentance is very rare. A free burst heal skill that refills stamina for the full party while passively increases magicka regen...

I mean healers rather slot buggy crappy Mutagen...

I am a healer and i use repentance but not spears. The great part about repentance is that it is a free heal in case im struggling on magicka.

lordhakai · November 2016

my healing build is superb i have 4k spell damage buffed and 2800 mag recovery.

Waffennacht · November 2016

With all these moves lists and such I feel I can ask this here, also I have zero healer experience.

What do you think of the resto staff ult? Viable for PvE group play?

SolarCat02 · November 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

With all these moves lists and such I feel I can ask this here, also I have zero healer experience.

What do you think of the resto staff ult? Viable for PvE group play?

Eh. I have been wondering that, too.

I played with it a bit. Even though it says it targets just one person, it seems to me it targets one per tick but does pick different people.

I am not a huge fan, but I have used it effectively in groups where people are still learning the dungeons (so more prone to dying, and lower dps). If I apply the heal over times and then hit the restoration staff ultimate it gives me time to switch to dps from healing and cause some damage.

But it is not a "good group" ultimate, in my opinion.

andreasranasen · November 2016

Healers are not needed in pledges.