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Genuine questions regarding ESO.(Population and Endgame Gearing)

Rykinx
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Greetings everyone in the ESO community, i have some genuine questions that keep me up at night. I recently got back into playing the game about a week ago and im currently leveling up a new character with some friends.The questions i have is,

1) How is the population on EU pc servers? are there enough people so the world wont feel empty at times? My concern is that some landscapes and cities would be ghost towns even during peak hours.

2) What would be your best suggestions as to what i should do the first thing i hit 50? and where should i start when it comes to gear? what are the main goals i should focus on.
  • RiddleDiddle
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    1. Game is pretty filled now that 1T has launched, there will always be some small cities empty, because of the worthlessness of the places etc.
    Other than that it's pretty filled and feels alive

    2. First thing when you hit 50 is get to cp 160, get your buttocks into farming those keys from Undaunted pledges (start off with 1 key, normal non HM) and gather information on the best gear, weapons, sets for your build. (probably vMA weaponry)

    Goodluck on your hunt, when you reached lvl 50 you ain't even close to end game, the real grind begins now
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  • Rykinx
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    1. Game is pretty filled now that 1T has launched, there will always be some small cities empty, because of the worthlessness of the places etc.
    Other than that it's pretty filled and feels alive

    2. First thing when you hit 50 is get to cp 160, get your buttocks into farming those keys from Undaunted pledges (start off with 1 key, normal non HM) and gather information on the best gear, weapons, sets for your build. (probably vMA weaponry)

    Goodluck on your hunt, when you reached lvl 50 you ain't even close to end game, the real grind begins now

    Thank you for this Insightful information, i understand that some cities will always be deserted because their in the middle of nowhere and their useless. may i ask how do i get started with doing undaunted pledges? should i focus on leveling and pledges rather that gathering all the sky shards?
  • Rune_Relic
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    1. EU does not have a population shortage issue unless its real early in the morning.
    2. Dont rush to 50. Learn your skills and enjoy the content. Everything is scaled to player now with one tamriel.
    3. Stick to normal dungeons until you have all the skills required, mastered your role and have grown out of them.
    4. The only reason to do Vet dungeon content is to get 2pc helms. Same armour sets drop at normal and vet, + 1 key. Hardmode vet gives two keys for shoulders.

    There really is no need to rush to 50 now unless you want access to the champion system.
    Granted, the more CP you have the longer you will live and the quicker you will melt stuff.
    You can go anywhere at any level now.
    Juts keep in mind you have limited skill options at low level.
    Anything that can be exploited will be exploited
  • Integral1900
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    Take your time, do the quests, do the content, find what you love and really learn how the character behaves. The game is knee deep in players with maxed cp who did nothing but grind and so don't know one end of the keyboard from the other. Quality over quantity as they say. It's a marathon not a sprint :)

    EU is packed, especially in the evenings, orsinium is quiet now that the end game crafting writs moved to belkarth in craglorn, I still keep my characters in orsinium though, I'm not having them slum it in a scruffy little dump like belkarth :D besides, orsinium loads faster.

    Build wise try everything, the game is so full of skill points from quests, levels and skyshards that there is plenty to go round, also treat the meta with suspicion, a lot of it revolves around builds made by top players, however as content creators on YouTube like deltia and sypher say themselves, just because it works for us does not mean it will work for everyone. Experiment, listen to advise and above all keep asking yourself is this build fun, if not then change it. No matter how powerful it is if you don't like playing it then it's not going to perform.
    Edited by Integral1900 on November 8, 2016 12:09PM
  • niawrathb16_ESO
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    you may find the addon itemisation browser useful as it allows you to search and filter all the sets in the game whilst in game as well as where to find them
    May you have keen eyes and sharp scythes

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  • drakhan2002_ESO
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    ...however as content creators on YouTube like deltia and sypher say themselves, just because it works for us does not mean it will work for everyone. Experiment, listen to advise and above all keep asking yourself is this build fun, if not then change it. No matter how powerful it is if you don't like playing it then it's not going to perform.

    I really like your post; everyone is looking for cookie cutter and not willing to even try their own build. It frustrating talking to a returning player who simply state "I just started but I'm using Detia's build for my toon." Hats off to Deltia/Sypher/FengRush who have all done many wonderful things for the ESO community - I am not downplaying their contributions and applaud them for their efforts. However, when people just blindly follow something without knowing the reasons behind what the build is supposed to be, it's a shame. They really aren't playing the whole game. Every mistake or alternative build you try will make you so much better as a player. I guess I'm on a soapbox, but I just really like your post.
    Edited by drakhan2002_ESO on November 8, 2016 12:28PM
  • RiddleDiddle
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    Rykinx wrote: »

    Thank you for this Insightful information, i understand that some cities will always be deserted because their in the middle of nowhere and their useless. may i ask how do i get started with doing undaunted pledges? should i focus on leveling and pledges rather that gathering all the sky shards?

    @Rykinx just gather the skyshards when you really need the skill points, pledges is only 2 (or 3 with DLC) per day, so not really need to focus THAT much on the pledges, just do them and enjoy the quests, doing the quests will make you go towards enough skyshards AND help you level.
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  • Rykinx
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    Alright thanks for all the valuable information, I have already done the grind to level 50 twice. i was not happy with how my first two characters played out (Sorc and Templar) so im currently leveling a fire DK. My focus is endgame and how to archive maximum potential rather quickly. So how would one go about to archive that? would it be just normal questing in zones i have not been to yet for CP levels and skyshards. and how would i go about gearing once im a fresh level 50? The game has changed a lot since i played it last time (over a year ago)
    Edited by Rykinx on November 8, 2016 12:41PM
  • RiddleDiddle
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    Rykinx wrote: »
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    Make sure you do a normal random dungeon for the 110k exp reward, gearing for lvl 50 is just having sets with training trait and exp scroll + ambrosia.
    Other than that you can choose to grind or continue doing quests, whichever you enjoy the most.
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  • Rykinx
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    Rykinx wrote: »
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    Make sure you do a normal random dungeon for the 110k exp reward, gearing for lvl 50 is just having sets with training trait and exp scroll + ambrosia.
    Other than that you can choose to grind or continue doing quests, whichever you enjoy the most.

    What is the Max CP level/points you can spend currently? and should i stop wearing exp gear once i get 160CP?
  • RiddleDiddle
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    Rykinx wrote: »
    Rykinx wrote: »
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    Make sure you do a normal random dungeon for the 110k exp reward, gearing for lvl 50 is just having sets with training trait and exp scroll + ambrosia.
    Other than that you can choose to grind or continue doing quests, whichever you enjoy the most.

    What is the Max CP level/points you can spend currently? and should i stop wearing exp gear once i get 160CP?

    max is cp561, and you could keep wearing training if you are solo'ing, if running dungeons you should wear appropriate gear
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  • Enslaved
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    First of all, choose your role in ESO. See what class seems best suited for what you want to do. If you like tanky, straight forward chars, DK is way to go. If you like stealthy, rougish class that use various types of life and other attribute steals, NB is what you want. If you feel like running a zoo, or wielding lightning, sorc is your pick. If you have learning disability but still wanna be jack of all trades, go templar.

    After you decided what class you would like to run, and you would like to be one of these min-max players, pick a race that will benefit you the most. Many magicka users will go for Altmer, Breton or Dunmer, stamina users usually pick Redguard, Imperial or Orsimer, those who want to be sneaky af go for Khajiit or Bosmer, tanks are mostly Imperials, Nords, sometimes even Saxhleel.. If you purchase a crown store upgrade called any race, any alliance, you will be able to play as any alliance, too. Or simply pick an alliance that is not AD or DC.

    When you know what you want to do, you can play the game is several different ways. For my first char, I would always encourage ppl to do quests, while they learn about skills and stuff. Some quests rewards you with a skill point, and you will need a lot of them to unlock skills and their morphs. Also, questing is kinda fun, when you are fresh to ESO.

    Be sure to pick a guild. Guilds are what makes MMORPG great. Many guilds can provide you with information, gear and other players to do group stuff with.

    If you like PvP, after you reach lvl 10 you will get an invitation to Cyrodiil, to fight for your alliance. Idk when is the best time to get into the fry, but on lvl 10 it is very rewarding to get to Cyro and do introduction quest, as it will give you enough alliance points to unlock best skill in entire game - rapid maneuver. You will see, there is not a better skill in entire game, for a new player.

    For Group dungeons, I would say it is not good idea to get in before lvl15, since you will be limited to just a single ability bar. I do not advise you to use queue, since it can be rather disappointing experience for a fresh player. Better is to find group in zone chat or, even better, in guild. If you like to be prepared for challenge, there are a lot of yt videos with each dungeon and its residents mechanics. Also, completing each group dungeon will reward you with a skill point.

    When you get to lvl50, don't be afraid to spend some coin on XP boosts, such is ambrosia and stuff. After you get to CP160, game is just starting, and grind for gear is real, I tell you, lol.

    Anyways, best of luck, and I hope you will enjoy ESO.
    Edited by Enslaved on November 8, 2016 2:18PM
  • Rykinx
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    Any specific reason why you told me to pick EP as my faction? i was initially playing EP but my friends wanted to make AD races because they don't have all faction/race.
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    Well, I cannot be objective since I really like EP. What I can say is that EP has nice quests, and ones in Dunmer areas are best in ESO. On the other hand, DC has poor quests, bland and boring af. The only thing there worth doing is Alik'r desert. Rest is complete bs, ruined by Bretons and their whining 24/7. AD is way better than DC when it comes down to how zones and quests were done, but there are way too many Altmers there for me to enjoy the area. But Malabal Tor and Reaper's March are very nice.
  • RiddleDiddle
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Well, I cannot be objective since I really like EP. What I can say is that EP has nice quests, and ones in Dunmer areas are best in ESO. On the other hand, DC has poor quests, bland and boring af. The only thing there worth doing is Alik'r desert. Rest is complete bs, ruined by Bretons and their whining 24/7. AD is way better than DC when it comes down to how zones and quests were done, but there are way too many Altmers there for me to enjoy the area. But Malabal Tor and Reaper's March are very nice.

    @Rykinx @Enslaved A.k.a. personal preferences? Just choose whichever faction, at the end you can experience all of them anyway, so don't let your choice of faction matter too much to you, it won't change how your character plays (Except if you don't have All Races All Alliances, since you'll be stuck with specific race with faction).
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  • Enslaved
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    That is true, but for a first char that might just go questing, it is good to do interesting quests first. It is no big surprise there are less players in DC than AD and EP, poorly done quests in DC areas did that.
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    That is true, but for a first char that might just go questing, it is good to do interesting quests first. It is no big surprise there are less players in DC than AD and EP, poorly done quests in DC areas did that.

    First characer doesn't matter too much, you'll be too hyped to see it too much, but yes i saw how different the quests were etc.
    But still if his friends are in DC, let him :) who are we to make him choose a specific alliance.
    It wn't change anything character wise.
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  • Rosveen
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    @Rykinx Choose based on PvP and race (if you don't have the upgrade to play any race in any alliance).

    The only faction lock that still exists is in PvP - you will always be playing against people from other alliances there. If you want to play in Cyrodiil together with friends, you should choose the same alliance as them.

    In PvE faction doesn't matter. All zones are unlocked from the start, so if you want, you can create an AD char, go straight to EP or DC starting zone and do that storyline instead. Or you can do all three. You can also play all content with friends regardless of their alliance.
  • Rykinx
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    That is true, but for a first char that might just go questing, it is good to do interesting quests first. It is no big surprise there are less players in DC than AD and EP, poorly done quests in DC areas did that.

    First characer doesn't matter too much, you'll be too hyped to see it too much, but yes i saw how different the quests were etc.
    But still if his friends are in DC, let him :) who are we to make him choose a specific alliance.
    It wn't change anything character wise.

    Now my biggest concern is the pvp aspect, im not sure if the factions are balanced. is there a big difference between factions? is one always dominating the others?
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Immediately look up a guide for what your doing as far as gear goes. The biggest mistake is no one looks up build guides, and this is the worst mistake you could ever make. Typically those guides will tell you what gear is BIS and from there if you feel comfortable you can tweak various guild aspects.
  • Asardes
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    1. Game is pretty filled now that 1T has launched, there will always be some small cities empty, because of the worthlessness of the places etc.
    Other than that it's pretty filled and feels alive

    2. First thing when you hit 50 is get to cp 160, get your buttocks into farming those keys from Undaunted pledges (start off with 1 key, normal non HM) and gather information on the best gear, weapons, sets for your build. (probably vMA weaponry)

    Goodluck on your hunt, when you reached lvl 50 you ain't even close to end game, the real grind begins now

    You can actually farm the keys starting at level 45 when you get the undaunted invitation and access to pledges, but only open actual chests when reaching CP160 to get the maximum level gear. I did just that back in the days of VR.
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  • Enslaved
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    Rykinx wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    That is true, but for a first char that might just go questing, it is good to do interesting quests first. It is no big surprise there are less players in DC than AD and EP, poorly done quests in DC areas did that.

    First characer doesn't matter too much, you'll be too hyped to see it too much, but yes i saw how different the quests were etc.
    But still if his friends are in DC, let him :) who are we to make him choose a specific alliance.
    It wn't change anything character wise.

    Now my biggest concern is the pvp aspect, im not sure if the factions are balanced. is there a big difference between factions? is one always dominating the others?

    Depends on campaign, on PC EU we have AD and EP pretty much dominating some campaigns, and from time to time DC get their **** together and flip few campaigns, too.

    In any alliance there are some seriously strong players that run with their guilds and make havoc. Groups that get trashed are most of the time random players grouped or even going solo. I think that, from PvP aspect, AD and EP are pretty good, and DC simply lack in numbers for some serious ownage. In populated campaigns such as Trueflame, you will find 2v1 scenarios being very common, most of the time its AD with some support from DC against EP. I dislike that behavior, but I guess these must be some inter alliance guilds or something.
  • Rykinx
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    So which Campaign should one choose?
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    Go for crowded ones. In pc EU I am on Trueflame, since one can farm a lot of AP there.
  • lardvader
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    1. Game is pretty filled now that 1T has launched, there will always be some small cities empty, because of the worthlessness of the places etc.
    Other than that it's pretty filled and feels alive

    2. First thing when you hit 50 is get to cp 160, get your buttocks into farming those keys from Undaunted pledges (start off with 1 key, normal non HM) and gather information on the best gear, weapons, sets for your build. (probably vMA weaponry)

    Goodluck on your hunt, when you reached lvl 50 you ain't even close to end game, the real grind begins now

    This +1 :smile:

    Well you can say that the real grinding begins when you hit cp160 and you can finally equip the best gear. Problem is to get it though....
    CP 1200+ PC EU EP
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