Theres trials coffers, which is like, a purple coffer for each trial with normally a good item, or motif, its timer is not daily, but weekly (from what I was told). From what ive heard, veteran, is incredibly different from normal (my first trial was veteranHRC due to someones mistake and we didn't even realize till it was too late, so I don't know how easy nHRC is compared to vetHRC)

there is a larger gap between norm-vet trials than there is with dungeons
think nMA vs vMA

most pug groups cant get the first boss down

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Yeah, the difference is pretty extreme, and the guy who compared nMA and vMA is pretty spot on.

I would argue that the jump in the 12 man trials is actually even more extreme because even if YOU do everything correctly, someone else can mess up and immediately screw you over. Having said that, there are plenty of guilds that clear vet crag trials with no problem at all.

like he said, you AND your group has to be on point
your tanks need to know how to buff/debuff (and run warhorn every 30 secs)
your healers need to have proper sets and need to know which heals to use against which bosses
your dps need to pull 30k+ and know the mechanics so that they dont die

i join pug vet trial runs about 3-5 times a week and none have gotten very far
main reasons for this is:
tank is too squishy or doesnt have the sustain
healers are running sets that have "always worked" for them
dps lie to inflate their dps and dont know mechanics

that being said i've also run with guilds that are so experienced that we're able to joke around and not pay attention to the trial at all
most recently, i was on a vSO HM run and we wiped to the final boss the first time because everyone was laughing so hard at the junk said in ts. we took 5 mins to breathe, cool off, and redirect our focus and killed the boss no problem