DC lost a scroll Prime Time NA TF

pcar944 · November 2016

if that was for me then, I wasn't complaining, just pointing out that when you guys are pop locked it would be nice not to get double teamed

but I know it gets boring fighting at the Bridge and getting nowhere

I understand how it works, my last 2 shards are in EP zone what are my chances of ever getting them QQ

Minno · November 2016

zyk wrote: »

The game design creates zergs 'organically' with no planning. Practically everybody at least surfs them from time to time, regardless of faction. Whenever I play, I see faction zergs from all three factions and top players and guilds surfing them.

With that said, the individual guilds that run and stack multiple raids exacerbate the issues this game has greatly. They deserve greater ire than any of the factions.

Without competitive objectives, tri-faction games will always be "zerg simulators". Reason why some games, like the Battlefield series, offer strict class systems with different ways to move or play the "board" as well as keeping battles between two forces to always ensure a competitive victory with actual tactics.

Hate it, vilify it, embrace it, or whatever. But the most important change ESO needs is the introduction of multiple ways to impact the scoreboard, which is currently the only competitive way of playing.

Till then, it's all just static.

zyk · November 2016

Minno wrote: »

Hate it, vilify it, embrace it, or whatever. But the most important change ESO needs is the introduction of multiple ways to impact the scoreboard, which is currently the only competitive way of playing.

Definitely. The single biggest problem with AvA is that it does not receive enough attention from ZOS. IMO, it has the potential to be a *great* game if ZOS would properly invest in it.

Minno · November 2016

zyk wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Hate it, vilify it, embrace it, or whatever. But the most important change ESO needs is the introduction of multiple ways to impact the scoreboard, which is currently the only competitive way of playing.

Definitely. The single biggest problem with AvA is that it does not receive enough attention from ZOS. IMO, it has the potential to be a *great* game if ZOS would properly invest in it.

I agree!! Even to the point where all the class/skill balance in the world won't compare to what this change will bring to pvp. Give the players ways to be competitive, and youll have a better foundation to put the class balance against.

Otherwise it's just a fart in the wind.

Elong · November 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

God_flakes · November 2016

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

I'd say calling someone "delusional" over an opinion about a game-an insult.

God_flakes · November 2016

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

There are many times DC is absolutely outnumbered. I'm sure all three factions have times they feel like this, but it does seem to happen to DC more often. Case in point my "really Ad" thread where for hours DC had one bar and Ad had three and they pvdoored the map. Any time I play weekends i keep a close eye on the population and DC hovers right around 3 bars while the other two are poplocked. It isn't until prime time that we seem to ramp up to a lock and even there there is rarely a queue. I realize this is anecdotal but I've played for nearly 3 years and trust my own judgment at this point.

Guilds DO zerg. All three sides. I'm not saying DC doesn't zerg. What I am specifically griping about is the "blobs" where two guilds or more are stacked on top of one another and running around simultaneously at gates up and down the stairs, in wave formation, like zombies with no real objective and spamming healing and aoe and rolling over DC in ones and twos. It's idiotic gameplay. Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

God_flakes · November 2016

zyk wrote: »

The game design creates zergs 'organically' with no planning. Practically everybody at least surfs them from time to time, regardless of faction. Whenever I play, I see faction zergs from all three factions and top players and guilds surfing them.

With that said, the individual guilds that run and stack multiple raids exacerbate the issues this game has greatly. They deserve greater ire than any of the factions.

Exactly. I don't know of one single DC guild right now that is stacking multiple raids.

ataggs wrote: »

For anyone who gets upset about what a certain DC player says, she admits to be drunk most nights she plays so don't take her too seriously. She's just trolling

Really? You're calling me out for drinking while playing this game-something 90% of the player base does every Friday night? I've never admitted to being "drunk" most nights. I am an adult woman and have the right to have a cocktail or two while playing the game on a weekend night. And the accusation of trolling has been reported. You're way out of line.

SkylarkX · November 2016

There's too much pulp in this thread

Minnesinger · November 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

There are many times DC is absolutely outnumbered. I'm sure all three factions have times they feel like this, but it does seem to happen to DC more often. Case in point my "really Ad" thread where for hours DC had one bar and Ad had three and they pvdoored the map. Any time I play weekends i keep a close eye on the population and DC hovers right around 3 bars while the other two are poplocked. It isn't until prime time that we seem to ramp up to a lock and even there there is rarely a queue. I realize this is anecdotal but I've played for nearly 3 years and trust my own judgment at this point.

Guilds DO zerg. All three sides. I'm not saying DC doesn't zerg. What I am specifically griping about is the "blobs" where two guilds or more are stacked on top of one another and running around simultaneously at gates up and down the stairs, in wave formation, like zombies with no real objective and spamming healing and aoe and rolling over DC in ones and twos. It's idiotic gameplay. Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

Of course, DC groups are outnumbered from time to time (well who isn´t). But from my experience, you see a small DC group around and kill them. The next there is a couple more DC. In case they died they will bring their zerg. Funny that you still remind of your fail thread where it was legit the first days after 1T when all DC were absent on the prime time for 1 night. Wonder how much the situation has changed since then. The Oceanic times DC outnumber quite often and most likely the blue zerg from Azura is moving to TF. When you combine Azura´s pop locked Oceanic zerg to TF you will know what zerging is. DC population is higher than ever and it is a myth that they are always outnumbered. These DC forum warriors get some satifaction for playing the part where they are victims but in reality they are the ones benefiting from numbers. The old times DC who fought outnumbered is gone. I can still respect many of them but they either quit, some play different factions and games. Sure I know there are some good Dc still playing but they seem to be absent from the forums chitchat. Lastly, if someone who is a known zerger starts to lecture about zerging you know it is beyond rational conversation.

God_flakes · November 2016

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

There are many times DC is absolutely outnumbered. I'm sure all three factions have times they feel like this, but it does seem to happen to DC more often. Case in point my "really Ad" thread where for hours DC had one bar and Ad had three and they pvdoored the map. Any time I play weekends i keep a close eye on the population and DC hovers right around 3 bars while the other two are poplocked. It isn't until prime time that we seem to ramp up to a lock and even there there is rarely a queue. I realize this is anecdotal but I've played for nearly 3 years and trust my own judgment at this point.

Guilds DO zerg. All three sides. I'm not saying DC doesn't zerg. What I am specifically griping about is the "blobs" where two guilds or more are stacked on top of one another and running around simultaneously at gates up and down the stairs, in wave formation, like zombies with no real objective and spamming healing and aoe and rolling over DC in ones and twos. It's idiotic gameplay. Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

Of course, DC groups are outnumbered from time to time (well who isn´t). But from my experience, you see a small DC group around and kill them. The next there is a couple more DC. In case they died they will bring their zerg. Funny that you still remind of your fail thread where it was legit the first days after 1T when all DC were absent on the prime time for 1 night. Wonder how much the situation has changed since then. The Oceanic times DC outnumber quite often and most likely the blue zerg from Azura is moving to TF. When you combine Azura´s pop locked Oceanic zerg to TF you will know what zerging is. DC population is higher than ever and it is a myth that they are always outnumbered. These DC forum warriors get some satifaction for playing the part where they are victims but in reality they are the ones benefiting from numbers. The old times DC who fought outnumbered is gone. I can still respect many of them but they either quit, some play different factions and games. Sure I know there are some good Dc still playing but they seem to be absent from the forums chitchat. Lastly, if someone who is a known zerger starts to lecture about zerging you know it is beyond rational conversation.

Whoa whoa calm down with all the snark and anger!!! Fail thread? It was a thread about a specific guild at a specific time doing what I consider to be garbage pvdoor. Get over it, dude.

I never mean to imply DC are "victims" in any of my comments. After all they won the last two campaigns and likely will win this one. I think some of you just flat out don't read my comments, you knee jerk with your condescending insults and jabs at me...and why is that? I make specific references. I'm no different from any other person commenting here l-I'm not going out of my way to *** you off or upset you so for the love of God calm down.

Elong · November 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

God_flakes wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

I'd say calling someone "delusional" over an opinion about a game-an insult.

Well you would if you were delusional!

Elong · November 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

Agree with this though!

Minnesinger · November 2016

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God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

There are many times DC is absolutely outnumbered. I'm sure all three factions have times they feel like this, but it does seem to happen to DC more often. Case in point my "really Ad" thread where for hours DC had one bar and Ad had three and they pvdoored the map. Any time I play weekends i keep a close eye on the population and DC hovers right around 3 bars while the other two are poplocked. It isn't until prime time that we seem to ramp up to a lock and even there there is rarely a queue. I realize this is anecdotal but I've played for nearly 3 years and trust my own judgment at this point.

Guilds DO zerg. All three sides. I'm not saying DC doesn't zerg. What I am specifically griping about is the "blobs" where two guilds or more are stacked on top of one another and running around simultaneously at gates up and down the stairs, in wave formation, like zombies with no real objective and spamming healing and aoe and rolling over DC in ones and twos. It's idiotic gameplay. Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

Of course, DC groups are outnumbered from time to time (well who isn´t). But from my experience, you see a small DC group around and kill them. The next there is a couple more DC. In case they died they will bring their zerg. Funny that you still remind of your fail thread where it was legit the first days after 1T when all DC were absent on the prime time for 1 night. Wonder how much the situation has changed since then. The Oceanic times DC outnumber quite often and most likely the blue zerg from Azura is moving to TF. When you combine Azura´s pop locked Oceanic zerg to TF you will know what zerging is. DC population is higher than ever and it is a myth that they are always outnumbered. These DC forum warriors get some satifaction for playing the part where they are victims but in reality they are the ones benefiting from numbers. The old times DC who fought outnumbered is gone. I can still respect many of them but they either quit, some play different factions and games. Sure I know there are some good Dc still playing but they seem to be absent from the forums chitchat. Lastly, if someone who is a known zerger starts to lecture about zerging you know it is beyond rational conversation.

Whoa whoa calm down with all the snark and anger!!! Fail thread? It was a thread about a specific guild at a specific time doing what I consider to be garbage pvdoor. Get over it, dude.

I never mean to imply DC are "victims" in any of my comments. After all they won the last two campaigns and likely will win this one. I think some of you just flat out don't read my comments, you knee jerk with your condescending insults and jabs at me...and why is that? I make specific references. I'm no different from any other person commenting here l-I'm not going out of my way to *** you off or upset you so for the love of God calm down.

At least I check my facts something you are not doing.

Minnesinger · November 2016

Knew rational would fly over your head so I guess I am just angry. Pointing facts as they are must mean something different to you.

God_flakes · November 2016

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

God_flakes wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

I'd say calling someone "delusional" over an opinion about a game-an insult.

Well you would if you were delusional!

Problem is, nowhere in any of my comments have I said DC doesn't zerg. I've admitted they zerg and I've admitted I zerg surf like everyone else. So exactly how is that delusional? Maybe this is splitting hairs but I have only specifically been referencing BLOBS. You know, players who think they're really elite forming up in very tight formation (security blanket) and running in unison around gates and the surrounding areas. This was my initial gripe. Not zerging. Go back and read.

maxjapank · November 2016

Minnesinger wrote: »

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God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

There are many times DC is absolutely outnumbered. I'm sure all three factions have times they feel like this, but it does seem to happen to DC more often. Case in point my "really Ad" thread where for hours DC had one bar and Ad had three and they pvdoored the map. Any time I play weekends i keep a close eye on the population and DC hovers right around 3 bars while the other two are poplocked. It isn't until prime time that we seem to ramp up to a lock and even there there is rarely a queue. I realize this is anecdotal but I've played for nearly 3 years and trust my own judgment at this point.

Guilds DO zerg. All three sides. I'm not saying DC doesn't zerg. What I am specifically griping about is the "blobs" where two guilds or more are stacked on top of one another and running around simultaneously at gates up and down the stairs, in wave formation, like zombies with no real objective and spamming healing and aoe and rolling over DC in ones and twos. It's idiotic gameplay. Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

Of course, DC groups are outnumbered from time to time (well who isn´t). But from my experience, you see a small DC group around and kill them. The next there is a couple more DC. In case they died they will bring their zerg. Funny that you still remind of your fail thread where it was legit the first days after 1T when all DC were absent on the prime time for 1 night. Wonder how much the situation has changed since then. The Oceanic times DC outnumber quite often and most likely the blue zerg from Azura is moving to TF. When you combine Azura´s pop locked Oceanic zerg to TF you will know what zerging is. DC population is higher than ever and it is a myth that they are always outnumbered. These DC forum warriors get some satifaction for playing the part where they are victims but in reality they are the ones benefiting from numbers. The old times DC who fought outnumbered is gone. I can still respect many of them but they either quit, some play different factions and games. Sure I know there are some good Dc still playing but they seem to be absent from the forums chitchat. Lastly, if someone who is a known zerger starts to lecture about zerging you know it is beyond rational conversation.

Whoa whoa calm down with all the snark and anger!!! Fail thread? It was a thread about a specific guild at a specific time doing what I consider to be garbage pvdoor. Get over it, dude.

I never mean to imply DC are "victims" in any of my comments. After all they won the last two campaigns and likely will win this one. I think some of you just flat out don't read my comments, you knee jerk with your condescending insults and jabs at me...and why is that? I make specific references. I'm no different from any other person commenting here l-I'm not going out of my way to *** you off or upset you so for the love of God calm down.

At least I check my facts something you are not doing.

DC rarely, if ever, outnumber AD during Oceanic times. Not sure where you are getting your facts. In general, AD has always been at least one bar higher than blue. But regardless of numbers, fights between yellow and blue have been fantastic. So no complaints from me. If anyone needs love, it's red. They drift between one and two bars.

I am only talking about TF. So apologies if you are including Azuras. They do have a large Oceanic presence. But they aren't on TF yet.

God_flakes · November 2016

I think the fact that Crown admits to a 90+ queue in TF is telling. I've never had that-like ever. Never. I wonder if any DC ever experience a 90+queue. I guess anything is possible but I talk to lots of DC and have never heard that.

Elong · November 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

God_flakes wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

I'd say calling someone "delusional" over an opinion about a game-an insult.

Well you would if you were delusional!

Problem is, nowhere in any of my comments have I said DC doesn't zerg. I've admitted they zerg and I've admitted I zerg surf like everyone else. So exactly how is that delusional? Maybe this is splitting hairs but I have only specifically been referencing BLOBS. You know, players who think they're really elite forming up in very tight formation (security blanket) and running in unison around gates and the surrounding areas. This was my initial gripe. Not zerging. Go back and read.

Only because they're not organised enough to do it. K Hole have been doing it on and off for a fortnight now by the way. And they're welcome to, as is anyone who plays this game, it's their choice.

God_flakes · November 2016

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

God_flakes wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

I missed the bit where he insulted you.

I'd say calling someone "delusional" over an opinion about a game-an insult.

Well you would if you were delusional!

Problem is, nowhere in any of my comments have I said DC doesn't zerg. I've admitted they zerg and I've admitted I zerg surf like everyone else. So exactly how is that delusional? Maybe this is splitting hairs but I have only specifically been referencing BLOBS. You know, players who think they're really elite forming up in very tight formation (security blanket) and running in unison around gates and the surrounding areas. This was my initial gripe. Not zerging. Go back and read.

Only because they're not organised enough to do it. K Hole have been doing it on and off for a fortnight now by the way. And they're welcome to, as is anyone who plays this game, it's their choice.

Most DC dislike that playstyle. They don't care for that form of "organization". And yes, I differentiate it from organic zerging or zerging in general. "Stack crown move here move there drop ults restack everyone now go pee together and get a snack together"...it's just ugh. I pray for the day when that mindless follow the leader stuff is no longer rewarded.

Minnesinger · November 2016

Knew rational would fly over your head so I guess I am just angry. Pointing facts as they are must mean something different to you.

maxjapank wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

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God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

There are many times DC is absolutely outnumbered. I'm sure all three factions have times they feel like this, but it does seem to happen to DC more often. Case in point my "really Ad" thread where for hours DC had one bar and Ad had three and they pvdoored the map. Any time I play weekends i keep a close eye on the population and DC hovers right around 3 bars while the other two are poplocked. It isn't until prime time that we seem to ramp up to a lock and even there there is rarely a queue. I realize this is anecdotal but I've played for nearly 3 years and trust my own judgment at this point.

Guilds DO zerg. All three sides. I'm not saying DC doesn't zerg. What I am specifically griping about is the "blobs" where two guilds or more are stacked on top of one another and running around simultaneously at gates up and down the stairs, in wave formation, like zombies with no real objective and spamming healing and aoe and rolling over DC in ones and twos. It's idiotic gameplay. Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

Of course, DC groups are outnumbered from time to time (well who isn´t). But from my experience, you see a small DC group around and kill them. The next there is a couple more DC. In case they died they will bring their zerg. Funny that you still remind of your fail thread where it was legit the first days after 1T when all DC were absent on the prime time for 1 night. Wonder how much the situation has changed since then. The Oceanic times DC outnumber quite often and most likely the blue zerg from Azura is moving to TF. When you combine Azura´s pop locked Oceanic zerg to TF you will know what zerging is. DC population is higher than ever and it is a myth that they are always outnumbered. These DC forum warriors get some satifaction for playing the part where they are victims but in reality they are the ones benefiting from numbers. The old times DC who fought outnumbered is gone. I can still respect many of them but they either quit, some play different factions and games. Sure I know there are some good Dc still playing but they seem to be absent from the forums chitchat. Lastly, if someone who is a known zerger starts to lecture about zerging you know it is beyond rational conversation.

Whoa whoa calm down with all the snark and anger!!! Fail thread? It was a thread about a specific guild at a specific time doing what I consider to be garbage pvdoor. Get over it, dude.

I never mean to imply DC are "victims" in any of my comments. After all they won the last two campaigns and likely will win this one. I think some of you just flat out don't read my comments, you knee jerk with your condescending insults and jabs at me...and why is that? I make specific references. I'm no different from any other person commenting here l-I'm not going out of my way to *** you off or upset you so for the love of God calm down.

At least I check my facts something you are not doing.

DC rarely, if ever, outnumber AD during Oceanic times. Not sure where you are getting your facts. In general, AD has always been at least one bar higher than blue. But regardless of numbers, fights between yellow and blue have been fantastic. So no complaints from me. If anyone needs love, it's red. They drift between one and two bars.

I am only talking about TF. So apologies if you are including Azuras. They do have a large Oceanic presence. But they aren't on TF yet.

God_flakes wrote: »

I think the fact that Crown admits to a 90+ queue in TF is telling. I've never had that-like ever. Never. I wonder if any DC ever experience a 90+queue. I guess anything is possible but I talk to lots of DC and have never heard that.

2 posts again playing the outnumbered card. Well I guess it is too hard to comprehend DC isn´t outnumbered no more than AD and especially EP. There we agree that EP has the least population though. But if you want to see DC as the least populated faction maybe you can check Azuras. The blue zerg there has a lot more to pvdoor to do but I think they will help you in TF. One of the biggest myths of ESO is why DC still complain about numbers. Hell I even rerolled DC when it was actual way before @maxjapank and quit in despair when NPK started its zerg schedules. But good for you guys you can still pat each others back for this.

God_flakes · November 2016

Ummmm I was the lead war general for NPK. I admit at times I had a full raid, but rarely more. I played the map and objectives. So what? Back in those days we truly were outnumbered-hence the exodus from TB. I'm not sure what you're continuing to go on and on about. Unless and until we are ever given actual enrollment numbers we can all only go by anecdotal experiences. My experience is I rarely if ever have a queue. Never in the 90's. If ad has this sort of queue they certainly MUST have more people trying to get into Cyro.

Rohamad_Ali · November 2016

I've never had a que longer then 3 and that was on the weekend . Maybe Khajiit get preferential que service .

maxjapank · November 2016

Minnesinger wrote: »

Knew rational would fly over your head so I guess I am just angry. Pointing facts as they are must mean something different to you.

maxjapank wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

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God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

There are many times DC is absolutely outnumbered. I'm sure all three factions have times they feel like this, but it does seem to happen to DC more often. Case in point my "really Ad" thread where for hours DC had one bar and Ad had three and they pvdoored the map. Any time I play weekends i keep a close eye on the population and DC hovers right around 3 bars while the other two are poplocked. It isn't until prime time that we seem to ramp up to a lock and even there there is rarely a queue. I realize this is anecdotal but I've played for nearly 3 years and trust my own judgment at this point.

Guilds DO zerg. All three sides. I'm not saying DC doesn't zerg. What I am specifically griping about is the "blobs" where two guilds or more are stacked on top of one another and running around simultaneously at gates up and down the stairs, in wave formation, like zombies with no real objective and spamming healing and aoe and rolling over DC in ones and twos. It's idiotic gameplay. Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

Of course, DC groups are outnumbered from time to time (well who isn´t). But from my experience, you see a small DC group around and kill them. The next there is a couple more DC. In case they died they will bring their zerg. Funny that you still remind of your fail thread where it was legit the first days after 1T when all DC were absent on the prime time for 1 night. Wonder how much the situation has changed since then. The Oceanic times DC outnumber quite often and most likely the blue zerg from Azura is moving to TF. When you combine Azura´s pop locked Oceanic zerg to TF you will know what zerging is. DC population is higher than ever and it is a myth that they are always outnumbered. These DC forum warriors get some satifaction for playing the part where they are victims but in reality they are the ones benefiting from numbers. The old times DC who fought outnumbered is gone. I can still respect many of them but they either quit, some play different factions and games. Sure I know there are some good Dc still playing but they seem to be absent from the forums chitchat. Lastly, if someone who is a known zerger starts to lecture about zerging you know it is beyond rational conversation.

Whoa whoa calm down with all the snark and anger!!! Fail thread? It was a thread about a specific guild at a specific time doing what I consider to be garbage pvdoor. Get over it, dude.

I never mean to imply DC are "victims" in any of my comments. After all they won the last two campaigns and likely will win this one. I think some of you just flat out don't read my comments, you knee jerk with your condescending insults and jabs at me...and why is that? I make specific references. I'm no different from any other person commenting here l-I'm not going out of my way to *** you off or upset you so for the love of God calm down.

At least I check my facts something you are not doing.

DC rarely, if ever, outnumber AD during Oceanic times. Not sure where you are getting your facts. In general, AD has always been at least one bar higher than blue. But regardless of numbers, fights between yellow and blue have been fantastic. So no complaints from me. If anyone needs love, it's red. They drift between one and two bars.

I am only talking about TF. So apologies if you are including Azuras. They do have a large Oceanic presence. But they aren't on TF yet.

God_flakes wrote: »

I think the fact that Crown admits to a 90+ queue in TF is telling. I've never had that-like ever. Never. I wonder if any DC ever experience a 90+queue. I guess anything is possible but I talk to lots of DC and have never heard that.

2 posts again playing the outnumbered card. Well I guess it is too hard to comprehend DC isn´t outnumbered no more than AD and especially EP. There we agree that EP has the least population though. But if you want to see DC as the least populated faction maybe you can check Azuras. The blue zerg there has a lot more to pvdoor to do but I think they will help you in TF. One of the biggest myths of ESO is why DC still complain about numbers. Hell I even rerolled DC when it was actual way before @maxjapank and quit in despair when NPK started its zerg schedules. But good for you guys you can still pat each others back for this.

Dude, I honestly don't mind being outnumbered. My guild enjoys the challenge. But DC is outnumbered, the majority of Oceanic nights, against AD. If you logged on night after night during Oceanic time, then you would know this. Nothing I have said is untrue.

Again, this is strictly TF

God_flakes · November 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I've never had a que longer then 3 and that was on the weekend . Maybe Khajiit get preferential que service .

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/301988/crashes-kick-you-out-of-cyrodiil#latest

I've never known Crown to lie.

Rohamad_Ali · November 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I've never had a que longer then 3 and that was on the weekend . Maybe Khajiit get preferential que service .

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/301988/crashes-kick-you-out-of-cyrodiil#latest

I've never known Crown to lie.

Maybe he ques with group . I've never seen a long que . In fact even when locked symbol appears , most of the time no wait .

God_flakes · November 2016

I have to admit I am laughing at Frozen and Mojican being kicked and locked out of Cyrodiil and unable to defend their precious emperorships.

Humphie · November 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

I have to admit I am laughing at Frozen and Mojican being kicked and locked out of Cyrodiil and unable to defend their precious emperorships.

I follow this thread for a bit now and all I got out of it is that:

1. DC doesn't zerg. (cough cough) and
2. That you are super nice. -.-

Manoekin · November 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

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God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/VC6TX-Tg0mQ

Short video of my group roaming ad territory, somehow we found a dc small man @Manoekin .

@God_flakes not sure how many videos its going to take to show you that dc and its guilds are not constantly outnumbered and don't mind zerging anywhere they go. This video is sort of me joking around but every faction zergs and doesn't mind zerging so stop being delusional.

Not sure why my opinions as a player are so upsetting to you that you feel the need to insult me personally but ok. If you've got a video of DC blobbing up in a tight ball of 24-40 spamming healing and ults and running around a gate with no real objective....I'd love to see it. Otherwise I'm not real interested in your video.

The first senetence was towards you, the second was to the dc players who insist they are outnumbered, dc guilds don't zerg, and whatever else didn't mean to target you personally so I apologize. I tagged you because you are the most vocal about this issue. I'm not upset at all if people want to zerg go ahead that is fine with me, I just don't see the reason to come on the forums and whine about it when others do it.

There are many times DC is absolutely outnumbered. I'm sure all three factions have times they feel like this, but it does seem to happen to DC more often. Case in point my "really Ad" thread where for hours DC had one bar and Ad had three and they pvdoored the map. Any time I play weekends i keep a close eye on the population and DC hovers right around 3 bars while the other two are poplocked. It isn't until prime time that we seem to ramp up to a lock and even there there is rarely a queue. I realize this is anecdotal but I've played for nearly 3 years and trust my own judgment at this point.

Guilds DO zerg. All three sides. I'm not saying DC doesn't zerg. What I am specifically griping about is the "blobs" where two guilds or more are stacked on top of one another and running around simultaneously at gates up and down the stairs, in wave formation, like zombies with no real objective and spamming healing and aoe and rolling over DC in ones and twos. It's idiotic gameplay. Now before you lecture me about the fact that I can't change how people play the game, I am a big girl and realize this, I am merely stating my frustration with blobbing which has been prevalent for 3 years. And the fact that the game rewards that is what irritates me the most.

Of course, DC groups are outnumbered from time to time (well who isn´t). But from my experience, you see a small DC group around and kill them. The next there is a couple more DC. In case they died they will bring their zerg. Funny that you still remind of your fail thread where it was legit the first days after 1T when all DC were absent on the prime time for 1 night. Wonder how much the situation has changed since then. The Oceanic times DC outnumber quite often and most likely the blue zerg from Azura is moving to TF. When you combine Azura´s pop locked Oceanic zerg to TF you will know what zerging is. DC population is higher than ever and it is a myth that they are always outnumbered. These DC forum warriors get some satifaction for playing the part where they are victims but in reality they are the ones benefiting from numbers. The old times DC who fought outnumbered is gone. I can still respect many of them but they either quit, some play different factions and games. Sure I know there are some good Dc still playing but they seem to be absent from the forums chitchat. Lastly, if someone who is a known zerger starts to lecture about zerging you know it is beyond rational conversation.

Whoa whoa calm down with all the snark and anger!!! Fail thread? It was a thread about a specific guild at a specific time doing what I consider to be garbage pvdoor. Get over it, dude.

I never mean to imply DC are "victims" in any of my comments. After all they won the last two campaigns and likely will win this one. I think some of you just flat out don't read my comments, you knee jerk with your condescending insults and jabs at me...and why is that? I make specific references. I'm no different from any other person commenting here l-I'm not going out of my way to *** you off or upset you so for the love of God calm down.

At least I check my facts something you are not doing.

DC rarely, if ever, outnumber AD during Oceanic times. Not sure where you are getting your facts. In general, AD has always been at least one bar higher than blue. But regardless of numbers, fights between yellow and blue have been fantastic. So no complaints from me. If anyone needs love, it's red. They drift between one and two bars.

I am only talking about TF. So apologies if you are including Azuras. They do have a large Oceanic presence. But they aren't on TF yet.

Bars are a good indicator of population levels guys.

And yesterday and the day before the roles were flipped because there were more DC pvping than AD.

Manoekin · November 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

I have to admit I am laughing at Frozen and Mojican being kicked and locked out of Cyrodiil and unable to defend their precious emperorships.

Because people being unable to play the game is funny.

God_flakes wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I've never had a que longer then 3 and that was on the weekend . Maybe Khajiit get preferential que service .

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/301988/crashes-kick-you-out-of-cyrodiil#latest

I've never known Crown to lie.

Crown is allowed to exaggerate. During PST primetime I think the queue got into 60-70's at the highest. It was a particularly popular night to play I guess, most of which had to do with players entering PvP early to try and dethrone then not leaving like they usually would. DC had a long queue that day as well if the DC players in my guild chat are any indication to go by.