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um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

1t..... effectively its all neutral.

No. The original 15 zones are all Alliance zones where you're doing quests explicitly to aid the respective alliances. None of them could be considered neutral.

that is your interpretation, you are welcome to it.

It's not an interpretation. Those 15 zones are explicitly territory of their respective alliances, and while questing in them the main questlines are explicitly supporting the alliance you're in. It's black and white. They are alliance territory and as such not neutral.

Then you are wrong when you say IC is neutral because it is pve heavy, as it doesn't matter according to the definitions you brought forward. Each alliance seem to advance themselves through the quests therefore not neutral. Might want to check up on your own statements before bashing others
Cyrodiil is t neutral either. It is not even arguable as you prorpose, or according to your definition.

They're neutral because they aren't controlled by any of the alliances - the alliances are all fighting to control them, but they can't hold them, and the territory that they "control" in those zones is constantly shifting. The entire area is a contested war zone. When you're questing in IC or battling in Cyrodiil you're fighting for the benefit of your home alliance, not for the benefit of the alliance whose territory you're in, because you're not in the territory of any alliance.

And I wasn't talking about being PVE heavy as having anything to do with being neutral - that's how IC meets the "adventuring zone" part of the criteria, it has nothing to do with the "neutral" part of the criteria.

"Disputed" might be a better label for Cyrodiil and IC, since the alliances are fighting for control. All the other "Neutral" places are stable in their neutrality, and the alliances are not disputing that neutrality. Of course there are still neutral aspects to Cyrodiil and IC; IC's storyline is completely neutral, as it's you and the Drake of Blades vs the Daedra, without the alliances getting involved.